. >> houma or u ma thurman.s it houma aberdeen or u man thurman. >> one was in "kill bill". >> that's true. >> gavin, okay, you were a cruz guy, a very solid cruz guy. >> still a cruz guy. love cruz. i'm a republican. i like the right. >> yeah, you do. >> where's the unity here. >> let's talk about unity. you made vice. you were so outside the mainstream, you were basically sum of the earth. would you agree? >> i'm still a pariah. >> yeah. you don't like peer pressure. isn't unity another form of peer pressure? >> yeah wu trump is the leader of the freaks. we're the freaks now. people who want freedom with the freaks now. the first punk rock president we've ever hads. >> a fair point. by the way in that montage when we were all laughing at cruz for saying that trump said he's not going to build a wall. he never said that to the time editorial board. he's building a wall. >> he is building a wall. of course. >> cat, to keep american businesses inside the united states. >> exactly. >> what's absurd about that in.

an if change with one of her close advisers, houma abedin. it speaks to the conversation saying she used this personal e-mail server for convenience. here her response basically is she's worried about privacy issues. she doesn't mention anything about convenience. there's another problem in the story i highlight that i think really speaks to contradicting information. clinton has said all along that there's been no evidence of hacking, which, of course, the fbi is looking to see if anybody got ahold of now classified information. it turns out that one of bill clinton's closest staffers who set up the server and set up her e-mail, e-mailed houma abedin said, listen, we're getting hacked. i need to shut down the server, it got hacked twice in one day. houma rooechd out to staff, one of her top policy advisers said, listen, since we're getting hacked don't send, quote, sensitive information to the secretary. >> had the clinton team not repeatedly denied there had been any hacking concerns? >> this is exactly right. there's been no evidence of ha

>> there was e-mails from houma abedin. >> huma abedin? did you download those? >> no, they were boring. >> so you actually saw hillary clinton's e-mails, not just the sidney blumenthal materials, you went inside and saw everything? >> that's absolutely right. >> but did he really get into the clinton's server? there are plenty of reasons to doubt him. we asked him to show us some of the documents he downloaded, he showed us nothing. and unlike his previous hacks, he posted no proof online. nonetheless, we talked to a number of the nation's top cyber crime experts who say guccifer's allegations should be taken seriously, including fbi special agent chris tarbel. tarbel ran one of the most sophisticated cyber crimes investigation ever. based on what he told us, wand we have given you a chance to review what he told us, is it possible that he could have hacked that server? >> he does have e-mail that came from that server, each e-mail has a header and it shows the path of where that e-mail came from. >> based on the probability from his last attacks, what do you ma

>> i keep thinking about houma. who is now being investigated. online communications has now become the bane of her existence. her husband, wiener, is exposing himself. she needs to move to a prarry. the dems do not have a back-up plan. when you drive across country, you have a spare tire. if you ever run a country, you better have a spare leader. it seems like hillary clinton and the media is partially to blame. they're not actually, since "the new york times" broke this story, no one has done a story on this, except fox news. this could get serious fast. >> that's why people are saying, why bernie sanders is staying in it for the long haul. because anything could happen. i don't think it makes any sense for him to get out at this point. >> i do, but no one is pushing bernie sanders out, because they want his backers. they've got enthusiasm, they've got money. democrats are saying don't put pressure on bernie. don't make it seem like you're pushing him out. i have a bunch of questions about this gucifer, you said because he's being extradited he

and i think people like houma abedin have been interviewed by the fbi. >> don't forget about the staffer who got immunity. >> you know what happens this up? the investigation wider, the staffers and emails of staffers? you find more stuff. you find stuff that may not be have anything to do with the state department. other than unless they were using the state department hillary clinton to somehow ingratiate the clinton foundation with funds from foreign governments, foreign companies. >> pinning the tail on the donkey. >> you start an investigation, sometimes it leads you down a different rabbit hole and you find something that really matters. i think that's where the meat is not with the state department, but with the clinton foundation. >> it's not with this guy who has no credibility. and it's not with -- >> it may or may not be, correct. >> it's not even the email. but it's the foundation. i'm just saying at this point, it's like you know what, republican party is so worried about hillary clinton. they're just praying for rain. they're just praying that something happens. can somethi

in november 2010, long-time aide houma abedin suggested hillary clinton consider using an official department-mail account or releasing her personal clinton e-mail.com address to the state department. clinton might want to consider the move aba dean said so her messages would not be going to span but clinton appeared to reject the proposal from her then deputy chief of staff for operations. let's get a separate address or device, but i don't want any risk of the personal being accessible, she responded. more at the hill.com. hillary clinton's presidential opponent senator bernie sanders has been campaigning in california ahead of that state's june 7th primary. here's one of his campaign ads. >> what choice do californians have in this election? the biggest one of all. the power to choose a new direction for the democratic party to break the back of a corrupt system of campaign finance that keeps a rigged economy in place, stand up to wall street and make the wealthy pay their fair share, fight for tuition-free public colleges and universities. it's a long way to washington but you can send th