a further vote of the house of commons will take place. is relates solely to efforts to alleviate humanitarian suffering by deterring use of chemical weapons and does not sanction any action in syria with wider objectives. basically it's saying they're punting to at least next week. they want another vote, if in fact the u.n. security council doesn't do anything. >> reporter: absolutely. this has been the compromise that david cameron and british prime ministers had to entertain. he wanted to get a vote today to authorize the potential for u.k. intervention alongside the united states. this is watered down. it looks, though, like the timetable may have begin to fit what we wants. we've seen here a meeting with them. that seems to have ended with most diplomats saying to me no real ability for either side to see eye to eye on this, distance between the u.k., u.s. and russia and china. one source saying to me russia didn't really want to see this come to a vote because it may put them in an embarrassing spot, so at this point with no rounds f

congress in the house of commons on the white house whitehall i would definitely make the case anything outside of the united nations security council on that force is getting on very slippery ground and will lead down the road strong. and that violation of international law will the kind that we have seen in iraq well talking of which you served as u.n. humanitarian coordinator for iraq do you see similarities here in the build up to what happened then we're talking about the unknown if they had not existed evidence of w m d's do you see the same thing happening here all the parallels of the op. there's also a very build up. some weeks ago we were told the public was told there may be a weapons of mass fraction but then the news in syria said it turned out to be there were likely to be such weapons involved and now we have very clear very critical and clear statements by both chuck hagel the secretary of defense of the u.s. and marshall by john kerry who saying we have evidence. and have evidence that is better than what i call them presented on the fifth of february two thousand and t

it will be decided by this government and by votes in this house of commons. >> i agree with the prime minister with the -- on the floor of chemical weapons. -- horror of chemical weapons. can he convince the house that military action by our country would shorten the civil war, help harold in a post-war government? -- herald in a post-war government? >> i cannot make those decisions. it would have to be action that is about determine the future use of chemical weapons. in the story. if we were aware of large-scale use of chemical weapons by the opposition, i would be making the same argument and the making the same recommendations. >> i am grateful to my honorable friend for supporting britain's tradition. we have always stood against mass murder. does my friend not agree that there is a humanitarian case for intervention, especially after what happened in 1988 when 5000 kurds were killed with mustard gas? >> i applaud my friend for standing up against mass murder wherever it occurs. speechesd part of my to deal with the actions. -- speech is to deal with the actions. there should be

he was expecting to have the support of the house of commons as he did two years ago for the military strike against libya but he has the support of his cabinet. it has strengthened to a certain extent the labor leader. the cabinet will have to reconsider britain's role in the world in the future. >> thank you very much indeed for joining us. since the start of the conflict in serious, hundreds of thousands of people have been fleeing the violence to neighboring countries. refugees in turkey have been speaking about their ears. they say foreign intervention is the only way to break the current stalemate, but not everyone agrees. >> despite having to leave most of their belongings behind these syrian families are relieved to have finally reached turkey. at this checkpoint on the syrian side of the border, dozens hope he guards will allow them to cross over. unless they hold the required papers, they have little chance of succeeding, but they try their luck anyway, especially following the recent chemical attacks. >> we are very frightened of the gas they used. we have no masks, no prot

there is a debate taking place right now inside the house of commons on what action to take. >> richellet has been a fierce debate so far. david cameron is trying to dumb up support for some sort of punitive action against assad. he has to admit that it is going to be an uphill battle, saying, quote, the well has been poisoned by the iraq war. >> and philip if he doesn't get the vote that he is seeking, then what? >> well, that's a very interesting point as well, because actually what he is bringing to the house of commons today is a much watered down resolution. he has come to parliament with a resolution that will bind him and restrict his ability to use military force. he'll have to wait for a un report, and a un vote, and then he'll have to come back to parliament a second time. >> explain the time line with the vote. >> the time line for the vote today -- it is going to happen today, and with this being seen as such an important vote here in britain, nearly every single politician wants to have his or hear voice heard. the vote is scheduled for later in the afternoon around 4:00 pm

a majority is in doubt and house of commons -- in doubt in the house of commons. the government has had the following line with opposition demands. >> the motion they're putting for tomorrow reflects the prime minister's recognition -- the notion we are putting forward -- the motion we are putting forward tomorrow reflects the prime minister's recognition -- >> and it is not just certain british m.p.'s who doubt the choice of a strike on syria. there are those who say assad will not crumble if attacked. people in the u.k. and u.s. fear and iraq syndrome, being drawn in and so making the situation worse. >> as tension grows over syria britain has sent six-jets to a base in cyprus -- six jets to a base in cyprus. let's cross to london, where our correspondent is standing by. hello. the brits are sending jets to the region. david cameron has been on the phone to barack obama a lot. but the prime minister is facing a lot of resistance to military action from members of his own party. >> yes. he has had to climb down because the opposition labor party changed their pos

these include military weapons inspectors and another vote in the house of commons. also makes clear that if these steps are taken, anything we do would have to be legal, proportionate, and specifically on preventing further use of chemical weapons. >> can you tell the house why he refused to publish attorney -- especially at a time when so many legal experts had so many explicit reinforcements where it is under international law. >> a long-standing convention not to publish any legal advice at all. this government has changed that. there is a summary of the legal advice and they have published a very clear summary of the legal advice. i urge the right honorable members to read it. mindful.course, deeply i will take a huge number of interventions. and the deep concerns in the country caused by what went wrong with the iraq on select in 2003, this is not like a rack. what we are seeing is fundamentally different. there will have to be another vote in this house. it is not based on a specific piece or pieces of intelligence. the syrian government has used chemical weap

i don't want to set out at the dispatch box at the house of common a list of targets.perfectly simple and straightforward to think of actions you could take to do with command and control of the use of chemical weapons and the people and buildings involved in that which would indeed deter and degrade. honorable members, when i think ask this point a number of ways, how can we be certain any action will work? how can we be certain any action wouldn't have to be repeated? and frankly, those are judgment issues. the only really firm judgment i think we can all come to is if nothing is done, we're more likely to see more chemical weapons used. i give way to my honorable friend. >> i thanks for the prime minister giving way. although the joint intelligence committee say their baffled as it the motivation for assad using chemical weapons, they do say they have a limited but growing body of intelligence which supports the judgment that the regime was responsible. i appreciate that the prime minister cannot share such intelligence with the house as a whole, but members of the

let me repeat again, there will be no action without a further vote in this house of commons but on this issue, britain should not stand aside. >> meanwhile on wall street, investors were relieved the prospect of u.s. military action against syria is not imminent so stocks got a lift from that encouraging gdp number we told you about, and the dip in first time jobless claims. also helping, verizon, it was the biggest gainer in the dow, up more than 2.5% on conformation it's in renewed talks to buyout the 45% of verizon wireless that it doesn't already own from its partner in the carrier, britain's vote a phone. that could be worth $130 billion. >>> by the closing bell, the dow added 16 and the nasdaq up 30 on strength of text stocks and the s&p 500 tacked on three points. >>> joining us tonight to analyze this, we are happy to have with us an old friend robert who left his post in the state department where he was under secretary for economic and energy affairs. welcome. >> good to be back with you. >> nice to see you again. on syria, oil prices have gone skyrocketing at this point, what

. >>> the house of commons we heard voted against the military strike. house of commons, thank you, bob. we'll keep you informed. in the meantime free market capitalism under attack. watch watch. what that is 50 cities participating in striking, fast food workers striking, mcdonald's, subway, taco bell. the issues, they want $15 an hour up from $7.25 the minimum wage. prices will go up if they get their way. >> this is an amazing, amazing story of love. this photo is of marine jesse cotyl with his wife who he met in rehab. he stabbed on ied and had to get both legs amputated. >> i just hope it can kind of represent overcoming any kind of adversity, big or small. and for us it just represents the kind of lady that she is. and she is amazing in every way. >> that is one strong woman, an amazing story of strength. >>> i used it today, dog in the fight. just say do we need to do it? why does it always have to be a fighting dog? how about a hampster? >> you said obama doesn't need a dog in the fight because he ate it. >> the u.s. economy grew at a robust up fr

speaker, for agreeing to request recall the house of commons for this important debate. e question before the house today is how to respond to one of the most abhorrence uses of chemical weapons in history, slaughtering innocent men, women and children in syria. is not about taking sides in the syrian conflict. is not about invading. is not about regime change or even working more closely with the opposition. it is about the large-scale use of chemical weapons and our response to a war crime, nothing else. in reaching our conclusions let me say what the house says in front of it today is a summary of the government's legal position making explicit military action would have a clear legal basis. we have the key independent judgments of the joint intelligence committee making clear their view of what happened and who is responsle and a motion from the government that sets out a careful path of steps that need to be taken before britain could participate in any direct military action. these include the weapons inspectors reporting, further action at the united nations and an

david cameron, before the house of commons and parliament, had that vote against what he wanted. he went into that vote pretty confident that he would have the support for the resolution he was putting forward, which was relatively modest, relatively meek. it basically was just preliminary authorization, if you will, to consider joining the united states in some use of force. he lost that vote, didn't he? >> yes, and it was a humiliating defeat, 272 for, 285 against. and it really does set an example for obama of what's at stake. this is very much a high stakes gamble he's taking by getting congressional authority for this, because that is exactly what cameron tried to do here at the house of commons and he lost big time. basically, it appears that he did not make a strong enough ca case. former secretary jack straw wrote there was not a strong enough case and not a clear enough strategy of what would happen after a military strike. those were the answers lawmakers here were looking for. they did not see enough evidence, they said, about what actually took place, how much of a ri

of talking in the commons what's been said so far. well the case being made for action in syria right now in the house of commons you've got this hefty eight hour debate and remember at the end of it no longer looks like we're going to get any decisive decision on whether military action will be taken m.p.'s have been the calls from some of the break they were asked to decide during this debate on whether the u.k. would join a u.s. led strikes on syria if they went ahead with the prime minister being forced to water down that motion after labor refused to back it and say no a second vote will be needed before any military action can be authorized the prime minister there making his case for military action today in the house of commons he wants a military action and very emotive language at times coming from the prime minister saying he's convinced the assad regime is behind the alleged chemical weapons attack we saw the government publish their intelligence dossier today the prime minister saying fundamentally this is a judgment call let's take a listen to what he said crucially the chairman in his letter to me makes this point abso

speaker for agreeing to our request to recall the house of commons for this important debate. ion before the house today is how to respond to one of the most abhor rent uses of chemical weapons in a century, slaughtering innocent men, women and children in syria. it is not about taking sides in the syrian conflict. it is not about invading. it is not about regime change, or even working more closely with the opposition. it is about the large scale use of chemical women and our response to a war crime, nothing else. in reaching our conclusions, let me set out what the house has in front of it today. we have a summary of the government's legal position, making explicit that military axled have a clear legal basis. in a moment. we have the key independent judgments of the joint intelligence committee, making clear their view of what happened and who is responsible. we have a motion from the government that sets out a very careful path of 10s that need to be taken before britain could participate in any direct military action. these include the weapons inspector's reporting, furthe

. >> a defeat in the house of commons, does that make it politically impossible for the british primeoin the americans if they launch military action. >> technically a u.k. prime minister can go to war without recognition of the house of commons. it is called the royal prerogative. it is a power that's borrowed from the crown which means that whoever has it can go to war and make treaties. in reality, if you cannot get the agreement of the house of commons you cannot go to war is clear from all sides. >> what's your gut feeling? the government says it is only just beginning to make the case. this is different to iraq, that terrible weapons have already been used, no doubt about their existance and they may be able to win not just politicians but the wider public. do you think that's an impossible task? >> the opinions poll show just as in the united states, in the u.k. people are very doubtful about this military action. i mean, the key thing here is iraq hangs over everything. the prime minister says yes, i'm interested in the weapon inspector and yes i'm taking legal advice very ser

. >> the house of commerce is a real shock not just the obama administration. i think everybody. interestingly the house of common that vote in the house of commons will be a backbone implantor congress to start reasserting itself into war powers which they have not done in a long time, so there could be a bigger impact there. what do people respect abroad? they respect strength. if they sense the strength is not there, weakness has replaced it, then they go their own way, they say what they want, they do what they want and in some cases they are expecting uncle sam or should we say uncle sugar to do the dirty work. neil: do you think we answer this by being more part of the global cmunity and not sort of as president bush had done it actually backfired. spiegel have never seen it to work in international relations. i really haven't. i think they're going to be sending a telegram to president obama based on what secretary of state carey said asking for the peace product back. neil: the bottom line is i know you have gotten into this on your show, we have benefited financially to cause the trouble is we in the wor

. >> a raucous no vote in the british house of common moves president obama closer to a tough decision. will the u.s. go it alone? also tonight, a tough sell. is this the right time to buy real estate in bankrupt detroit? and the rebuilding of new orleans, the battle over who longs in the new new orleans. good evening, thank you for being with us. it was an absolutely gob smacker of a vote. one that quickly reverberate here in washington, and one that may force the hand of the u.s. president. late today the british parliament to be the step of saying no to prime minister it will not support british participation in a military strike against syria. the fierce response wasn't just a surprise, it was nearly unprecedented to a pettish leader seeking to support his american ally. >> the origin question was the motion on syria, and the use of chemical weaponed as published in corrected form, since when an amendment has been moved. the question is that the amendment be made. as many say eh. >> eh. >> on the contrary no. >> no. >> and the raucous response could foreshadow more trouble, not jus

the house of commons shooting down even a preliminary resolution on military action. here at home.that means the u.s. may have to decide whether to go in alone. as president obama ponders a military strike. members of congress got a briefing today from top u.s. officials. who are making the case that syrian forces killedlast week. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle want a role in the final decision. this shows the positions of could originate. but we've gone from talk of u.s. air strikes being to talk of more caution. some of the key evidence seen by the american public.since it remains classified. and almost certainly nothing will happen until u-n weapons inspectors get out of syria. they're not expected to evidence until saturday. ahead at eight. we know apple is going to unveil the next i-phone any day now your existing used i-phone once the new one comes out. back after the break. it's a bizarre case. involving a man biting a dog. sheriff's deputies have identified the suspect as 34-year-old frank garcia of san jose. as kron four's rob fladeboe reports now, deput

of the honorable gentleman. trying to set out a framework for decisions for this house. my interest in this all along has been to assure that the house of commons could make this decision when the evidence is available. there will be some people in the house -- i will give way in a moment. there will be some people in this house, mr. speaker, who believe this decision is simple. there will be some people who think we can make the decision now that we should engage in military conflict. equally, there are those who think we should rule out military conflict now. this is about reflecting on the evidence. i think that is due, and the roadmap sets it out. not rule out military action, but is not the problem with the government that it is in civil war? hearing what the inspectors say. i do say to my honorable friend and to the house that it was noticeable this morning that it was certainly being presented, the government motion, as if it was voted for, and i think it is an important point, of the house endorsing the principle of military action. motion,why i think our which sets out a framework for decision, is the right thing. i will make a bit mor

papers in britain today, and they indicate strongly the public support for what happened in the house of commonsast night. we don't want your war, cameron defeated, cameron humiliated. this is the kind of language coming out today, so there's very little indication that there's going to be a change or a shift here many the united kingdom. the british people just don't have a desire, or an interest in supporting a u.s. led military interin syria. but what we are hearing from the other side of the english channel on the continent is slightly different. from paris, we are hearing that the french president gave an interview to french daily in which he made some very strong statements including french -- that france will be part of anything that happens in syria. france is ready to strike syria. and that possibly a site could happen as soon as wednesday, which is interesting because that's also the day that the french parliament will come back from their summer vacations early, to also vote on this. of course, it was a major upset for prime minister david cameron here, but the language coming out of

tough response to the use of chemical weapons, but i also believe in respecting the will of this house of commons. it is very clear tonight while the house has not passed a motion, it is clear to me the british parliament reflecting the views of the british people does not want to see british military action. i get that, and the government will act accordingly. >> voted down the measure despite a report from britain's joint intelligence committee calling it quote highly likely the syrian government used chemical weapons last week. the u.s. intelligence committee is expected to release its own report sometime tomorrow. we got a hint tonight of what the administration knows. senior u.s. officials telling intelligence reveals senior members of the assad regime preparing for a massive chemical attack and discussing it afterwards. those intercepted conversations include regime members acknowledging the attack was getting a great deal of attention, discussing the wisdom of lying low for awhile and for going such massive chemical attacks in the near future. on the ground, u.n. inspectors kept up their w

friend and ally the american president they will be decided by this government and votes of this house of commons. >> now despite being in support of military intervention in syria, cameron said he would comply with parliament's decision. assad said syria needs a political solution as u.n. inspectors have been ordered to leave the country. united states has now order a fifth war ship into the med. yesterday leaders of congress were briefed by the president's foreign policy team where they were told president obama believes beyond a doubt that the syrian government was responsible for last week's chemical attack that killed more than 1,000 people. still they were told the president has not made a final decision on the timing or scope of my military operation. more than 100 lawmakers including 21 democrats signed a letter saying president obama needs authorization from congress before moving forward with air strikes in syria. so there's more fallout to talk about from the edward snowden leaks. "the washington post" has obtained new details about what it describes as a black budget for the u.s. spy

the british house of commons voted down an authorization of force yesterday. the president got a call from prime minister of france and has the idea that the french are supporting the possibility of a u.s. action. i just got off the phone with a conference call at the white house was conducting. they said syria will come up at the g 20, not a subject of formal meetings, and i think the president will get no shortage of advice, if in fact, it's not taken place by then. >> a lot of the conversation what the u.s. will or won't do. what if syria or allies really retaliate, what are you secondary consequences we might face? >> that's are unknowable effects of striking military and why so many people are nervous about this prospect but when they look at all the options, every one of them is bad. which is the least bad option? because the united states has an interest in reinforcing it's own credibility, having said that chemical weapons is a red line and reinforcing the worldwide norm against the use of chemical weapons, the white house seems strongly on a path to d

. >> lively debate in london's house of commons as lawmakers debate whether britain should intervene with military measures in syria. prime minister david cameron said the use of chemical weapons in syria demanded a strong response. he said britain would exhaust all the options but warned that his government was not prepared to insist on unanimous support. >> you could have a situation in a country where it's country was literally annihilating people in the country, but because of one veto on the security council you would be hampered from taking any action. >> the opposition labor party is expected to vote against the government motion, which asks parliament to approve military action in principle. a second vote still be necessary to authorize a tax. that will not be before united nations inspectors in serial finish their work. on saturday, they are to leave the country and report on their findings. in paris, the french president met with representatives from syria's opposition, who are calling for quick intervention. the law says military operation had to be the last resort. >> ever

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tough response to the use of chemical weapons, but i also believe in respecting the will of this house of commons. it is clear to me the british parliament, reflecting the views of the british people, does not want to see british military action. >> for more, nbc's annabelle roberts live in london. good morning. >> reporter: richard, good morning. while this was a bad defeat for mr. cameron, it means one of president obama's key allies will not be beside the u.s. if and when air strikes against syria go ahead. members of the uk parliament were recalled from their long summer strikes vote on management action in syria and late last night they voted against. this is a clear reflection of the strength of public opinion as revealed in latest opinion polls here that is opposed to any military involvement. the feeling here, this is all happening too quickly and there are many who questioned what a few air strikes would actually achieve. there's no appetite at all to get involved in an open-ended conflict in syria. hanging over this is the course of iraq. this is a bitter blow. he's effectively lost con

. >> i was stunned and i think everyone in the house of commons was stunned, and everyone beyond that. this is an extraordinary turnaround. called back from summer holiday early by the prime minister hoping to get their approval for imminent military action against syria in one form or another. 72 hours later, he seems to have admitted defeat. and he will meet political or public support for military action in syria. this is quite a turnaround and a defeat for david cameron. >> why was he defeated? iraq. legacy of a rack -- too many politicians on his own side and opposition parties just felt there were too many dangers with this and could not quite believe the guarantee of the government that this will be a limited action, they are worried about the mission creep and worried about being sucked into a larger conflict in the middle east. and a lot of people just have a gut feeling that somehow western intervention in the middle east, no matter how well intentioned, will go badly. >> do you think david cameron has failed to produce sufficient evidence? he said it was a judgment call tha

let me repeat, again, there will be no action without a further vote in this house of commons.n this issue, britain should not stand aside. we must play our part in a strong international response. we must be prepared to take decisive action in order to do so. for this house, it's surely a basic point. evidence should proceed decision. not decision proceed evidence. and i'm glad that on reflection, the prime minister accepted this yesterday. >> i give way to the honorable gentleman. >> very much welcome his doctrine that evidence should proceed decision. that's a stark change from at least one of his predecessors. >> i'm clear of the fact we have to learn the lessons of iraq, of course we have to learn those lessons. one of the most important lessons was, indeed, about respect for the united nations. i do not rule out supporting the prime minister but he has to make a better case than he did today on this question. he can't say this does not change our house on syria, does not change our involvement in the syrian conflict because frankly, it would, mr. speaker. this is is a gra

. >> i was stunned and i think everyone in the house of commons was stunned, and everyone beyond that. this is an extraordinary turnaround. called back from summer holiday early by the prime minister hoping to get their approval for imminent military action against syria in one form or another. 72 hours later, he seems to have admitted defeat. and he will meet political or public support for military action in syria. this is quite a turnaround and a defeat for david cameron. >> why was he defeated? iraq. legacy of a rack -- too many politicians on his own side and opposition parties just felt there were too many dangers with this and could not quite believe the guarantee of the government that this will be a limited action, they are worried about the mission creep and worried about being sucked into a larger conflict in the middle east. and a lot of people just have a gut feeling that somehow western intervention in the middle east, no matter how well intentioned, will go badly. >> do you think david cameron has failed to produce sufficient evidence? he said it was a judgment call tha

tough response to use of chemical weapons but i also believe in respecting the will of this house of commons. is very clear tonight that while the house has not passed a to me thatis clear the british parliament, reflecting the views of the totish people, does not want see british military action. i get that and the government act accordingly. gwen: the president says he has not decided when to act but it has decided to act, peter? >> it's hard to imagine he can't given the comments made today about the syrian culpability. secretary of state kerry said inaction is not an option so the question is the timing and the extent of the military strike, is it a one-day, is it a two-day? what's the impact, does it accomplish what they want it to accomplish. the statey at department, john kerry not only made a forceful release but also a map showing unclassified documents showing launched missiles were landed thatey carried the chemical weapons. >> in the declassified they laid out the best case they could make publicly. they claim and the sayingtration has been since the beginning of the week when se

there will be no action without a further vote in this house of commons.de. we must play our part in a strong international response. we must be prepared to take device itd devicisive action in order to d so. >> evidence should proceed decision, not decision proceed evidence. i'm glad on reflection the prime minister accepted this yesterday. i give way to the honorable gentleman. >> very much welcome his doctrine that evidence should proceed decision. that's a stark change from at least one of his predecessors. i'm very clear about the fact we've got to learn the lessons of iraq. being we've got to learn those lessons. one of the most important lessons was indeed respect for the united nations. i do not rule out supporting the prime minister. i believe he has to make a better case than he did today on this question. frankly, he cannot to the house and the country, this does not change our stance on syria this does not change involvement in the syrian conflict because, frankly, it would, mr. speaker. this, mr. speaker, is a very grave decision. it should be