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as the house of lords overstepped the mark? en we have this process. the house of commons looks at something and then it comes to us. all we can do is ask them to think again. what i think is significant as the speeches we had from people that have been involved in negotiations, people that a senior lawyers from all parties, saying this is the right course of thing to do. not only morally but pragmatic. i would thing to do. not only morally but pragmatic. iwould hope thing to do. not only morally but pragmatic. i would hope that the house of commons looks at this seriously and we did rates. —— and read the debate, reconsider. the argument is that this does nothing to help the 900,000 british people living in other eu countries. by taking it off the table, it is no longer a priority for france or italy. i heard that's knocked down several times to really debate. to be honest, it's not what they are saying to us. so many eu national are saying that this is the writing today. it isn't the case. don't you think that the way to start

i've spoken to the leader of the labour peers in the house of lords and he has made it very clear thatany longer because they say the government ‘s majority increased in the house of commons, there was no sign ofany the house of commons, there was no sign of any shifting from the government, so they have said it would be a futile act. the liberal democrats though will push it to vote in the house of lords although we expected to be wrapped up in the next couple hours. .0rg us through the timetable after that, assuming this brexit bill finally goes through, when are we looking at theresa may triggering the whole process of leaving the eu and triggering article 50? because it had been thought it might be this week, there seems to be an idea that it could be later in the month. downing street all along publicly and privately has refused to put a date on it because there was uncertainty. it went into the commons and then the lords inflicted those defeats and you could not be certain what could happen so i think they deliberately did not put a date out there but i have been told by downing

that young as we continue to look at pictures inside the house of lords, in the light of what was juste light of what was just voted upon in the house of commons, and if you want to continue watching that, you want to continue watching that, you can on the bbc parliament. and we will keep you abreast of any votes on bbc news. later on in the evening. that is all of the political business done, let us check on the weather prospects. temperature is not going down very far overnight, cloud amounts increasing, out of a cloud, some of us increasing, out of a cloud, some of us will see rain, especially into northern ireland and scotland pushing southward, weakening, in two parts of northern england and becoming increasingly light and patchy. hill fog through western parts of the uk and wales. to the higher ground. you can see those temperatures staying up into the start of the day with plenty of cloud. plenty of showers in northern scotla nd cloud. plenty of showers in northern scotland with the wind gusts in excess scotland with the wind gusts in excess of 70 miles an hour, having an impact

the government has suffered a second defeat on its brexit bill in the house of lords. s are insisting on what they call a "meaningful" parliamentary vote on the final deal to leave the eu. the government will now try to overturn the changes in the house of commons. ministers accused some in the lords of trying to frustrate the brexit outcome. theresa may is still hoping to start the formal leaving process by the end of the month, as our political editor laura kuenssberg reports. they are not universally loved, but the house of lords won't let that drive its opposition away. defeating the government for the second time in a week on its plans for brexit. contents, 366. not contents, 268. so the contents have it. with the biggest turnout for nearly 200 years, just for good measure. reporter: do you think parliament should have a meaningful vote? ministers are determined not to give in. they've promised parliament already a say on the terms of brexit. but arguments for a legal guarantee of a vote won the day in the lords, a desire even if theresa may and her ministers, look

that's the latest from the house of lords in westminster. a of the day began in edinburgh with a fat announcement from nicola sturgeon here at her official residence, bute house, that she is seeking a second independence referendum. let's get a report on that now from our scotland editor, sarah smith. since she was 15, nicola sturgeon has dreamed of an independent scotland. now brexit may provide the chance. as she says it means scotland must be given a fresh choice. what scotland deserves, in the light of the material change in circumstances brought about by the brexit vote, is the chance to decide our future in a fair, free and democratic way. there should be a referendum, she says, before the uk leaves the eu, some time between the autumn of 2018 and the spring of 2019. 0pinion polls still don't suggest more than 50% of the country would want to vote for independence. the economic circumstances are much harderfor you than they were in 2014. do you really believe you could win another referendum? yes, i do. absolutely i believe that. i beli

sir david bemish has been chief clerk in the house of lords for six years. been clerk of the house of commons for two years. welcome to the programme. what did you make of meet the lords? did you enjoy the programme? i enjoyed it. i wished it could have been more representative. behind the flummery, there were some good stories that did show the house doing itsjob, which, at the moment, with brexit going on, is very much in the public eye. i was delighted the public have an opportunity to see that for themselves. did it convey the house of lords that you know? i don't think it was exactly a cross—section. for example, the clip we have just seen of lord palmer, i don't think you would find many peers who share his view about the tv room. it was a little used facility. as he said, we did need the space. other parts of it, absolutely. some of the characters you saw, the ones i know well and the kind of work that goes on, particularly in relation to bills. two years ago, the documentary about the inside of the commons. there was a lot of resistance about that. th

they will be concerned, i did my best in the house of lords. i thought we had strong arguments, here on the face of the bill. equipment has been so stubborn about this, even when it is in their interest. so when they don't face the legal challenge further down the line, they have still been so do stubborn as to reject it. i would say to theresa may, i know the government has moved, has given assurances. but i think she has prime minister has to be very clear, speaking in the house of commons and she's making statements, i think she has to give those assurances to her eu citizens and also to british citizens living in europe. what about those who say including the liberal democrats that labour peers are caving in, you should just carry on the fight? they would say that. if i thought there was any chance of winning i would be floating tooth and nail, and the government increases its majority and has been so stubborn, it would be an empty gesture, it is an empty gesture for tory mps to say they are above the zenit sit on their hands. it would be an

of lords may say that the house of lords may say that the house of lords may say that the housef commons should have a bigger say in what goes ahead. that is odd as well, isn't it? the fact is odd as well, isn't it? the fact is the house of lords knows perfectly well it can only push things so far and then whatever ping—pong develops between the two houses, in the end the house of commons will decide. i would be very surprised if the tory rebels voted in favour of a house of lords amendment in this case. in the end of the house of lords will yield to this particular issue. but the real issue, iam this particular issue. but the real issue, i am sorry, is parliamentary voting and on that the vote is much more in doubt. as a former political correspondents of many years standing, what do you make of labour's position on this? 0h! standing, what do you make of labour's position on this? oh! i wish you had not asked. labour has not got a position, it does not know which way it is going, left, right oi’ which way it is going, left, right or centre. jeremy corbyn is very hostile to eur

in the house of lords and in the house of commons, it didn't face any trouble whatsoever. s at all in the house of commons early in the evening, and the house of lords basically got the hintand the house of lords basically got the hint and recognised that there was a limit to its powers to intervene, given that it is an appointed chamber rather than an elected one. what they had made their point. they had attempted to persuade the commons to amend the bill on the rights of eu nationals, and that meaningful vote, so—called, at the end of process. what they acknowledge the commons wasn't going to wear that, and so they said, look, this is the end of the road. liberal democrats continue to make the point that they have a real problem with brexit, but labour and a good number of the independent crossbench peers recognise that the end of the road had been reached. so the bill now will get royal assent, it will become an act of parliament, and so theresa may will have on her back pocket the very thing that the supreme court said a couple of months ago she had to have in order to

afterwards said it would seek to overturn all of this in the house of commons because tonight the bill, the end of that process happens in the house of lordsnext couple of hours and next week they will have to take it at the house of commons to overturn the changes, that's what the government has said it will do and this evening lord strathclyde came out to give the government's of view. i'm utterly convinced the government will go into the negotiation in the very best of faith and will try and get the best deal, notjust for the united kingdom but for the rest of europe. that must be possible. the problem with this amendment is it would make getting that negotiation to a successful conclusion more difficult, because it would incentivise the other side, the european commission in this case, to offer a worse deal on the basis that parliament would then vote it down. so the freer way is to leave the bill unamended, send it, trigger section 50 and then start the negotiations in a serious and concerted manner. so now all eyes will be on the house of commons, in particular those conservative mps who have expressed doubt about all of this, who ha

election news now from the house of lords. welcome to our virtual interior of the house of lords. campaigning is taking place for a hereditary by—election. now, there are places for 92 hereditary peers. speaker. and, remember, they are the only members of the house of lords to be elected. now, this vacancy was caused injanuary by the death of scottish peer lord lyell. the whole house gets to vote on this by—election and there are more than 800 voters. that is because lord lyell was one of the peers prepared to serve in a senior role as a deputy speaker. now, there are 27 candidates, including some famous names. a few peers are hoping to return to the house of lords. now, they had to leave along with most of the hereditaries under the blair government reforms of the 1999. ififisfifiiéatllffiftilltfifill; l three are lib dems, seven across benches, and there is one candidate who has declared a party or groupraffiliation. so, those other contenders for a coveted place on these red benches. i must stress that only members of the house o

know that it might be next monday and we also know that it might be in the house of commons in the morning and the house of lords in the afternoon. what we believe is that if this does go through the house of commons in the morning, we will have to see if the house of lords will again vote other amendments to block this. they have said all along they would not block brexit. we think the british government is still on track for the self-imposed deadline of the 31st of march, but of course, we will have to see. laura: moving to hungry, where parliament signed off on plans to round up asylum-seekers and put them in camps made from shipping containers on the border with serbia. human rights groups have called it a violation of international law. hasary's prime minister called it a trojan horse of terrorism. the assemblies have approved the proposal with 138 yeses and with 22otes, abstentions. >> a resounding show a support for the latest proposal. as parliament approves the automatic detention of all asylum-seekers in the country, he addressed the hungarian border police's latest recruits. crisis willtion last until

the uk government has suffered its first defeat over the brexit bill in the house of lords — that's theranteeing the rights of eu citizens in the uk after brexit. here's the moment it was announced. they have voted. contents, 358. not contents, 256, so the contents have it. that debate is still going on. this is the live feed we have coming in. the lord is not quite as busy as it was earlier. to explain what's happened — the lower house — the house of commons — passed this bill a couple of weeks ago without any changes. but the upper house — the lords — has now voted for this amendment. that means that the bill now has to go back to the commons. the government expected this. here is a quote from david davis, the brexit minister. he said he was expecting parliamentary ping—pong. that is a good phrase, because this bill could go back and forth several times. let's get some help describing what has happened. tom bateman is live for us in westminster. is the government in the commons is likely to back down on this amendment? i don't think they have any intention of giving ground on this. th

the fact is the house of lords knows perfectly well it can only push things so far and then whatever ong develops between the two houses, in the end the house of commons will decide. i would be very surprised if the tory rebels voted in favour of a house of lords amendment in this case. in the end, the house of lords will yield to this particular issue. but the real issue, i am sorry, is parliamentary voting and on that the vote is much more in doubt. as a former political correspondent of many years standing, what do you make of labour's position on this? 0h! i wish you had not asked. labour has not got a position, it does not know which way it is going, left, right or centre. jeremy corbyn is very hostile to europe generally. his party is totally split, his voters are totally split. frankly, despite keir starmer being rather good for labour, really no one is paying any attention to what they say because theyjust do not have a clearly thought out position. let's move on. the united kingdom has one land border with another country, the irish republic, and for decades that has been a f

the government has suffered its first defeat over the brexit bill in the house of lords. s voted for an amendment guaranteeing the rights of eu nationals to remain in the uk. they have voted. contents 358. not contents 256. many in the lords argued it was both immoral and ineffective to use eu nationals as a bargaining chip. the government has said it's disappointed in the vote and that it had repeatedly made clear it wants to guarantee the rights of eu nationals as early as possible in the brexit process. the government will now have to decide whether or not to reject the vote in the lords. let's go to tom bateman in westminster. how big a blow is this to the government and theresa may? she was sitting in in the beginning of the brexit debate in the house of lords. she was, but she wasn't there for this pretty hefty defeat which was inflicted on the government. that margin by which the amendment was carried is pretty big, at 102 votes. a labour figure was carried is pretty big, at 102 votes. a labourfigure last night said they didn't think they would get that number into

once she gets that parliamentary approval from the house of lords, and then house of then it is the queen who will give her will consent -- arroyo consent, or it is threesome may that will trigger article 50, the official divorce proceedings to divorce the eu. is an't expect either indication coming down the street for the prime minister to do that. indeed in the conversation i had with one of the first women of the prime minister and earlier the word and march was underlined, raising huge speculation. certainly by the end of march. now there is a lot of speculation and fervor about the 27th of march. i'm sure as we speak people are betting on it. what the prime minister is betting on is getting that green light, that approval. then the queen's royal assent. guess as tonybody's whether article 50 will be triggered. signs outside the european union, britain may not include scotland. scotland is concerned she will request permission for a second referendum on scottish and dependents. the first attempt wawas defeated in 2014. would be unfair to force them out of the eu. >> a scottish thing i

of the day in the commons and the lords. on this programme... after the drama of the week's government defeat in the housef lords on the brexit bill, peers win praise from some unlikely quarters, such as the snp. the people's aristocrats have spoken and their voice must be listened to. the farming minister rejects claims that food prices are increasing since the uk voted to leave the eu. we have seen a fall in food prices of 0.5% over the last year and a fall of 6% since 2014. and more tributes are paid to the father of the house, sir gerald kaufman, who died last weekend. he had an ability to sum up his views with a witty turn of phrase that could be as colourful and a memorable as his suits. but first... the leader of the commons, david lidington, has confirmed that the government will try to overturn wednesday night's defeat for the government inflicted by peers on the so—called brexit bill. peers voted by a majority of 102 to guarantee the rights of eu nationals living and working in the uk. ministers don't want that guarantee to figure in the bill, which simply triggers the process of britain leaving

number one is when it is in the house of lords, we have seen the house of lords this week bearing theirnt circles that if the commons could overturn those amendments bumble laud them —— from the lords, then the lords would throw in the towel and not want to be accused of thwarting the will of the people on brexit. there will be no such qualms on the great repeal bill, they think, and the second danger identified by ministers is that the scottish parliament may say that under the original devolution settlement that great repeal bill would need their consent. asi as i said, perhaps the prime minister najib you vulnerable on such a small majority. here's chris cook. a busy college green here in westminster is a sign that something is about to happen in parliament. tomorrow is budget day, which is a day when the government usually looks at its most imperious. the whole structure of the day really favours the people in power. it also comes as the conservative party's racking up enormous poll leads, consistently in double digits over the labour party. but might that mean that we are overstati

peers from all parties have voted in the house of lords to amend the legislation to enable eu citizensing in the uk to stay here. it's a setback for the government's bill to trigger article 50 which starts the formal process of the uk leaving the eu. mps may vote to remove the lords' proposed changes when the bill moves back to the house of commons later this month. but today would be the first defeat for the government over brexit and there could be more to come. our political editor laura kuenssberg has more. turning up for work the minister smiling despite the prospect of defeat. from the start their lordships were determined to let fears be felt. this is the sort of issue where the house of lords is right to say to the commons please think again about this. you can't be contemptuous about the lords and the functioning of the lords in seeking to improve, refine, modify legislation. rarely the scene of minute by minute political thrillers, but today peers were eager to create a drama. is the government heading for a defeat on the brexit bill today? government heading for a defeat on

change the government has suffered its first defeat over the brexit bill in the house of lords. f lords, baroness smith says she hopes this result of the vote will help change the government's decision. what is significant here are the speeches we have had with people involved in negotiations from europe, senior lawyers from this country from all parties, saying this is the right thing to do. not morally right but pragmatic in the interests of the uk and citizens also. i hope those members of the house of commons will look at this seriously, read the debate and reconsider their position. the argument from the minister was actually this does nothing to help the 900,000 british people living in other eu countries. by taking it off the table before negotiations, it is no longer a priority for france or italy? i heard back, and i also heard it knocked down several times. so many people who are uk nationals in europe have contacted us and say, help us and also we have uk citizens married to eases as in is and there position is uncertain. the way to start negotiations is to make this c

the mps are considering he amendments, the changes made by the house of lords. nges guaranteeing the rights of eu citizens. so the ayes or have won that, they were disagreeing with a house of rules. that is a clear government win. and the bed is going again because they are now voting on the second of those changes on the house of lords —— the bell. that is a call for a meaningful vote when theresa may comes back with the end of negotiations, whether she has got the deal hasn't got a deal, they are voting on whether they get a vote. we should get that result in about 15 minutes. i think it is this second one where they are, more concerted mps may be abstaining and voting against their own government by dame think they have the numbers even though theresa may has a small working majority. when it comes to brexit cheesiness likely better position, she has got the dup on her side most of the time and she has even got most of the labour mps so they cancel out the tory rebels. the cabinet ministers i have been speaking to our pretty confident that this bill is going t

the government suffers its second defeat in a week in the house of lords over brexit. parliament on any final deal. this is exactly what theresa may said she wanted to do and all the house of lords has been doing tonight is debating that and putting it on paper. i'm disappointed but i expect it will be overturned in the house of commons. money for new grammar schools in england is expected to be announced in tomorrow's budget. the cia refuses to comment as the website wikileaks publishes what it claims is evidence the agency uses a wide range of computer hacking tools. also in the next hour — the illegal trade in rhino horn takes a dramatic turn, with a raid on a zoo in paris. poachers broke into the wildlife park and shot dead rhino vince,

reminder of our top story: the british government is beaten on its brexit bill after a vote in the house of lordsremain in the uk. the government hopes to overturn that when the bill returns to the house of commons. thanks for watching. well, a very blustery night out there for some of us, particularly across southern parts of the uk, especially the south—west, around the bristol channel. breezy inland too. and really, the weather is going to be very unsettled over the next few days. lots of clouds, lots of weather fronts out there in the atlantic, ready to come our way. this is what we've got through the early hours. here are the winds, quite strong in the south. some rain and hill snow across more central parts of the uk. and then we've got temperatures near freezing across the north, with some showers as well. now, the good news is that the winds will ease, eventually, through the course of the morning. it will still stay relatively breezy, and you can see there's a bit of cloud and rain again across parts of the midlands wales and the north—west in the morning. but i think by lunchtime, most

the house of lords is like a nonexecutive director of the country.p a stink. it must not overrule the executive committee democratically elected parliament. the legislature. it must not do that, it is getting perilously close. i was in there last week hearing the speeches. one after another, paraded out the same way. i will respect the will of the british people, bert. the greatest lie i have ever heard. you have just done it now, it is the sort of brexit. i wa nt it now, it is the sort of brexit. i want a soft brexit. you're saying i wa nt to want a soft brexit. you're saying i want to stay in the single market. how do you know? if you want a soft brexit, what you are after is staying in the single market, that means accepting free movement of labour, submissions to the european court ofjustice. labour, submissions to the european court ofjustice. people voted yes, fio court ofjustice. people voted yes, no on court ofjustice. people voted yes, 1100116 court ofjustice. people voted yes, no on a simple question. the detail is coming through. it is ver

francine: has the house of lords changed because of brexit? bill went through house of commons no problem and then the house of lords now seems to be where all the debate is taking place. lord lamont: i don't think it's changed because of brexit. bear in mind the conservatives are quite in a small minority in the house of lords contrary to what people understand or the perception. you have a large cross bench element. you have a labor party element which is not far short of the conservatives and you have a hundred liberal democrats. if i wanted to use the term the liberal elite, they're well represented in the house of lords and they reflect that opinion. that's all that happened really. it crystalized the fact the conservatives are in the small minority. lord falconer: that's a slightly inaccurate way of putting it. the conservatives are the single largest minority in the house of lords, something like 250 members. i think the next largest minority is the labor party with 200 and then the liberal democrats a hundred and something and the cros

we have had a very heated debate in the house of lords today. we've had former tory cabinet ministers like norman tebbit and michael heseltine and michael forsyth, nigel lawson all getting up and taking a very keen interest in all of this. the minister for the government in the last few minutes just winding up the government's argument, saying we will deliver on the vote, we will honour our promise. there's no question that we won't do that. he says the promise is that it ties the hands of ministers going into negotiations, so that result we will get in the next few minutes. 0k, thank you for that. as isa, when we do get the result we will bring it toa do get the result we will bring it to a soon as we can do get the result we will bring it to a soon as we can hear do get the result we will bring it to a soon as we can hear on the bbc news channel but now it is time for sports day. hello, i'm olly foster, these are our sportsday headlines this evening. sir dave brailsford admits that mistakes have been made at team sky but says they are a clean t

as we speak, the house of lords is voting to permit theresa may, the prime minister, to push the buttonl process, article 50, that is likely to take britain out of the european union. but after today, it is abundantly clear that that journey to leave the eu could potentially mean the end of that other union, that union of the uk. not once... to the right, 335... but twice... to the right, 331, to the left, 200 and... the prime minister never wanted them to have a say. but tonight, mps voted for her to get brexit started. ceremoniously, the bill went along the corridor of power, back to the house of lords, who had tried to change it. but resista nce who had tried to change it. but resistance has been fading. only the lib dems were left in theresa may's way. contents, 135, not contents, 274. so the not contents have it. co mforta ble 274. so the not contents have it. comfortable win for the government. westminster is different these days. the uk as we know it could soon be very different, too. the question is whether or not scotland is going to be taken into the abyss with this tory gover

they plan to reject the whole idea of article 50 in a vote that will happen much later tonight. lord newby is the leader of the liberal democrats in the house your reaction to this defeat in the last hour or so on this particular idea that you guys have been pressing strongly, of a second referendum 7 have been pressing strongly, of a second referendum? well, wejust think there is a simple principle at sta ke. think there is a simple principle at stake. the people started this process, the people should finish it, and that is what we were arguing, and it is something we will carry on arguing outside the house of lords. you will make the case even though it has been rejected? we will, absolutely. the government opposes it because they don't want anyone to have a say on anything. surely that was the referendum, that is why we are here. people voted for 57 different varieties of brexit. the vast bulk of people did not vote to leave the single market. yet that is what the government is doing. the vast bulk of people do not support what the government is doing in terms of its harsh treatment of eu nationals. so yes, they voted to start the proce

that is after the house of lords dropped two amendments to the article 50 bill. one would have safeguarded the rights of 3 million nationals living in britain, and the other of which would have handed mp's a meaningful moan on the outcome of negotiations. essentially, this should have been a victorious day for may, but estrogen >> notes, still half under. the guardian is not too excited about the victory. >> a submarine manned by the people.exit the name of the vessel is brexit mcbrexitface. cboatface.e to boaty m that is an unmanned scientific submarine named by the british public. cartoonage of that last being that the name was ridiculous but it stuck. isxit is a disaster but piling on regardless. >> the first round of voting in france. the scandal surrounding the former front runner, francois fillon, seems like it is not going nowhere. >> absolutely. penelope gate seems to be going on a while. paidccusation that fillon family members huge amounts of money for work that they never did. look for easy end today, the plot thickens. fillon will be summoned by a judg

of this. the question is, when will it come? this is what lord heseltine had to say about it. everyone in this housethis amendment, as the noble lord has so clearly set out, secures in law the government's commitment, already made to another place, to ensure that parliament is the ultimate custodian of our national sovereignty. it ensures that parliament has the critical role in determining the future that we will bequeath to generations of young people. and i urge your lordships to support the amendment. but there are others who say this is just an underhand wheeze, really, to try and reverse the referendum result. they say that they would be tying ministers' hands as they go into the negotiations, that their authority would be undermined if the eu negotiators on the other side of the fence really felt that, actually, in the end, parliament would reject it. this is what anotherformer would reject it. this is what another former conservative minister had to say. i appreciate that i am a minority in this house, notjust because i am a scottish tory, but because i am a scottish tory, but because i am a

this is a referendum authorised by the sovereign act of parliament, it passed the house of commons and the house of lordsf lords would need to have a bill to legislate, but simply form a question. this is the main point, to notify the withdrawal process. it wasn't to go into all begins an ounce, but it was to deal with the simple question. that is what happened, with a massive majority, 499 to around 120 or something. i see in neal and 499 to around 120 or something. i see in nealand nodding his 499 to around 120 or something. i see in neal and nodding his head, because he knows it is the case. on the third reading, which took into account the amendments which had already been discussed, which cover these questions as well, niall and others did vote. it is up to people to make up their own minds, but the house of lords has its own functions, they had an opportunity to look at it. but the time has come now, we don't want the prime minister's hands to betide. she would find herself in extreme difficult circumstances, if there was some arrangements as difficult circumstances, if there was some arrangements

the government has suffered a second defeat on its brexit bill in the house of lords. are insisting on what they call a ‘meaningful‘ parliamentary vote on the final deal to leave the eu. the government will now try to overturn the changes in the house of commons. ministers accused some in the lords of trying to frustrate the brexit outcome. theresa may is still hoping to start the formal leaving process by the end of the month, as our political editor, laura kuenssberg, reports. they are not universally loved, but the house of lords won't let that drive its opposition away. defeating the government for the second time in a week on its plans for brexit. contents, 366. not contents, 268. so the contents have it. with the biggest turnout for nearly 200 years, just for good measure. reporter: do you think parliament should have a meaningful vote? ministers are determined not to give in. they've promised parliament already a say on the terms of brexit. but arguments for a legal guarantee of a vote won the day in the lords, a desire even if theresa may and her ministers, look

those were governments of the left facing a conservative dominated house of lords. is more party political balance. the blair and brown governments faced confrontation with the lords of anti—terrorism measures and things like that all the time. and the need to respond to defeat and to negotiate and sometimes back down was well understood on the labour side and fairly familiar. for conservatives this is quite new. so the coming together of those two things makes it feel very important to the government but in some respects it is actually fairly routine and i think, as i have said, the lords will probably be back down, so it is not going to be one of those historic confrontations. and that key question is, to backbenchers wanted back down on this, or do backbenchers privately support what the lords is asking for? meg russell. it was a special parliamentary day on wednesday. philip hammond presented his first budget. and, curiously, it was also his last budget, at least his last one in the spring. from now on, the annual budget reverts to the autumn. the chancellor hope

the government is facing the prospect of another defeat in the house of lords over the process of leavingu. peers are expected to vote for parliament to be given a legal guarantee of a vote on the final brexit deal. that is, they wa nt final brexit deal. that is, they want mps to have more than a simple yes or no on the final negotiation. it will be the second defeat in a week for the government in the lords over brexit. our political editor laura kuenssberg has been watching the debate. it is theresa may's team... do you think parliament should have a meaningful vote? who do not want to give parliament a promise in writing, against the other team, in the lords, where they are voting to try to force the prime minister to give a foul in law that parliament will have the final say on the eventual deal on brexit. —— vow. will have the final say on the eventual deal on brexit. -- vow. we are taking a more principled stand in the house of commons. theresa may said there would be a vote in both houses on the package she negotiated. that is meaningful.” don't think there should be any plan to tr

those were governments of the left facing a conservative dominated house of lords. rds is more party political balance. the blair and brown governments faced confrontation with the lords of anti—terrorism measures and things like that all the time. and the need to respond to defeat and to negotiate and sometimes back down was well understood on the labour side and fairly familiar. for conservatives this is quite new. so the coming together of those two things makes it feel very important to the government but in some respects it is actually fairly routine and i think, as i have said, the lords will probably be back down, so it is not going to be one of those historic confrontations. and that key question is, to backbenchers wanted back down on this, or do backbenchers privately support what the lords is asking for? meg russell. it was a special parliamentary day on wednesday. philip hammond presented his first budget. and, curiously, it was also his last budget, at least his last one in the spring. from now on, the annual budget reverts to the autumn. the chancellor

these were the changes at the house of lords, wanting to guarantee the rights of eu citizens living in the second one was about securing a final vote, a vote on the deal that theresa may gets at the end of the process of negotiation, but both of those changes have been overturned by the house of commons. it will now go back to the upper chamberagain, to it will now go back to the upper chamber again, to the house of lords, where they will consider it one more time. indications there art that labour opposition peers have not seen any sign that the government will give way on this. they do not see any point in pursuing this any further. it seems that this brexit bill will pass its final parliamentary hurdle tonight and that leaves theresa may very much able to trigger article 50 when she chooses to. i am told that it will not be this week, it will happen towards the end of march. the house intelligence committee has given the trump administration until the end of today to provide evidence that phones at trump tower in new york were wiretapped just before the election. white house press s

the house of lords is set to defeat may today. ey are beginning of parliamentary veto at the deal that she makes is not considered good enough. global news 24 hours a day powered by more than 2600 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries, i'm taylor riggs. this is bluebird. bloomberg. mark: gold drops. investors plan rates for 2017. we will put the precious metal and focus. that is next. this is bloomberg. ♪ vonnie: live from london and new york, i am vonnie quinn. mark: i'm mark barton. this is "bloomberg markets." gold continuing to fall and investors factoring in the near certain probability of a rate hike at next week's fed policy meeting. joining us now to discuss it is the senior market analyst at the r epstein division. down for the six consecutive day. longest losing streak since november. how low can we go in the near-term? >> first report is right here. moving average closes and a lot of investors look at that. the problem is you got to get through thursday, the ecb meeting. they should hold steady. the elephan

of politicians. i find it extraordinary that your lordships' house is spending several hours on a defective amendment. if lords incapable of putting down an amendment which can produce that is not defective, so be it. he is a highly capable lawyer. i asked the lordships on the long contested principle that this country's future should rest with parliament, and not with ministers, and it is in that spirit that i contained to make this new clause watertight. and at the end of the debate, peers voted decisively for the amendment to the brexit bill requiring a parliamentary vote on the exit deal. my lords, they have voted, contents 366, not contents 260, so the contents have it. so a big defeat for the government. and shortly after that vote michael heseltine, who we saw taking part in that debate, was told he'd been sacked from hisjobs advising the government. well, monday sees the next chapter in the brexit bill story. and to find out how this drama might play out, we spoke to the constitutional expert, professor meg russell. she told me much now depends on the attitude and approach of mps. and the key question

here in the uk the house of lords has dealt the government its first serious blow over the brexit bill will trigger the process of leaving the eu. the upper chamber voted by a large majority to give european union nationals who already live here the right to stay in the uk. the prime minister has so far refused to give any such assurances. our political editor, laura kuennsberg, reports. they have voted, contents 358. wow. not contents 256. so the contents have it. "wow!" you can hear them say. the lords beat the government by more than 100 votes. a bid to force ministers to say people from other eu countries can stay here, and to say so now. it seems to me a win—win for principle, humanity, decency and honour. and i hope the house of commons will now follow the example of the lords and make sure that it confirms this improvement to what was otherwise a pretty dire set of legislation. it's very arrogant to assume that your argument is the only one of principle and yours is the only moral one. once people start using words like "high ground", "principle" and "moral", i think it's a load

it's been a record breaking week in the house of lords: on tuesday evening the largest number of peers in the upper house took part in a vote on the so—called brexit bill. it resulted in a defeat for the government. peers voted for parliament having a meaningful vote on the final eu exit deal and for that measure to be clearly written into the bill. it was a proposal led by the crossbench peer lord pannick and it was the government's second defeat on the brexit bill. in the commons, the leader of the house set out next week's timetable. monday 13th of march — consideration of lords amendments to the european notification of withdrawal bill, followed by a continuation of the budget debate. tuesday 14th march, if necessary, consideration of lords amendments. mr speaker, i note on the business paper there are three days set aside for consideration of lord's amendments if necessary, as this government attempts to ping that pong that is coming from those heroes who are continuing to stand up to the government. i note that this only goes on until wednesday. what happens if we still have thes

there a: why is difference between the house of commons and the house of lords? use of commons don't feel like they can interfere. the house of lords has, i don't know how you would describe it, more of a conscience? why is it so different? jim: first of all, of course members of the lords are not elected mp's, so they are not constitutionally representative of the people. that's why some of the british media will no doubt be having a go at them about this today, ignoring the will of the people, but the flipside of that is, many members of the house of lords are amongst our country's most experienced people. across all walks of life. they don't have the same pressures that go with the house of commons and can think more objectively. certainly from my experience as a minister, the quality of debates about things, including economics, all sorts of ex -chancellors in there, much higher level when you get there. they are generally more thoughtful about all these things. i have to say, i was one of the people, one of the ones that spoke for six minutes last week. it we