the question really is that the house of lords. ouse of lords understand the country's frustration, see the will of the elected house and move as quickly as we needed to support this legislation so we can get it on the statute books and get flights up and running? as i said previously, we are already doing the operational work that is required to make sure we can get flights up. and, this is one part of a plan that is working, we are carrying on doing all the other thing is that a meaning we can get boat numbers down. working with other countries to smash crime gangs upstream. intercept boats and engines, make sure we strengthen our returns agreement, continue to find those working here illegally and return those. work through the backlog so we can empty hotels. we announced and delivered on the first 50 hotel closures. 50 hotels return to local communities and more of thatis to local communities and more of that is coming. that is because we have doubled the number of caseworkers and tripled their productivity, so we cleared more a

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last week in the house of lords, when when a house of lords, when it when a house of house committee n a house of hou same thing committee said lords, when it when a house of hou same thing thatnittee said the same thing that will probably through . and then probably get through. and then the the government's the hope from the government's point is it gets point of view is it gets reversed. the numbers are reversed. but the numbers are quite the scale of quite important and the scale of opposition . we expect peers opposition. we expect 70 peers to today, four of them, of to speak today, four of them, of course , are clerics. one of course, are clerics. one of them, including the archbishop of . we think the of canterbury. we think the bishop of london and others might up. pitting might speak up. so, so pitting the church and its views against the church and its views against the government. >> um, christopher , we've heard >> um, christopher, we've heard a lot about rebels wanting to tighten up this bill in the house of commons. we're now heanng house of commons. we're now hearing ab

he does go to the house of lords. mber of reasons why it will get delayed there. ordinarily, the house of lords would not want to frustrate legislation passed by the house of commons, the elected chamber. but on this occasion, i think there might be good reason why some peers at least will want to seek debate and discussion and possibly amendments. one, because the bill potentially means that the government will be able to ignore international law. the prime minister said that he would certainly consider that if necessary. it is designed, of course, to overturn the decision of the supreme court who said rwanda it was not safe, this says whatever anyone says, we wonder is safe as far as the house of commons is concerned. and the other i think, is around the point the prime minister made, the will of the people. some members of the house of lords will say, hold on, this was not in the 2019 conservative manifesto. the rwanda plan was not there at all. when you talk about the well of the people, at what point have they had

of the democrat elected house. my of the democrat elected house. my lordsnot our role. >> one of our roles here is to protect democracy, sometimes to protect democracy, sometimes to protect democracy, sometimes to protect democracy from itself . protect democracy from itself. >> well, lord carlisle caught himself an unelected nobody, not me. >> but the notion of protecting democracy from democracy itself. what on earth does that mean to make sense of it? i'm joined by our political editor, chris hope, and the author and journalist nick tyrone. >> welcome revolutionary martin, aren't you? >> look, fact of the >> well, look, the fact of the matter is, you don't need to be mystic.meg to have seen this one coming do you, coming down the line, do you, chris? they're trying their damnedest we knew damnedest to sync it as we knew they damnedest to sync it as we knew the yes. i mean, you know, he's >> yes. i mean, you know, he's there. lord carlisle. he's an eminent barrister. there. lord carlisle. he's an eminent barrister . um, yes. eminent barrister. um, yes. a

want in a party an election year but they're hoping now they can draw a line under go to the house of lords real test will come to it passes the house of lords and what it is put into action, will it work and will we end up with the same situation with ge asylum—seekers sitting on the runway about the take—off to rwanda and then he gets stopped by the courts. a lot of people expected to be this kind of challenges and be months before he find out if that is the case. ~ , , ., the case. the prime minister is a bi ou the case. the prime minister is a big you can _ the case. the prime minister is a big you can try — the case. the prime minister is a big you can try line _ the case. the prime minister is a big you can try line under- the case. the prime minister is a big you can try line under this . the case. the prime minister is a| big you can try line under this and those who wanted to be tougher, dd that will allow them to do that never going to see more of the tory party psychodrama is that he wanted to bring an into when he became prime minister? fin to bring an into when he became prime m

house of _ perceived. given as we heard that it has to go to the house of lords - has to go to the house of lords first, whate being sent to rwanda, how many months and weeks is it likely to be? we heard from the government this morning they are hoping to get flights going in the spring, one could say that is quite a broad timescale, you can define spring as march, april, may, buti timescale, you can define spring as march, april, may, but i think realistically we are looking at this going to the house of lords and that then has to come back to the house of commons if the law who wants —— if the lords try to make changes which i think i will try to do so you are probably looking at the end of march, i am speculating slightly hypothetically, roughly i think that is what we are looking at in terms of when it might actually end up on the statute book and there is the question of whether there will be legal challenges brought by other organisations. we are not sure at the moment. i think the government still insists they want to get the first flights off the ground in the spring, that is what they say they are w

and the question really is for the house of lords, right. l the house of lords understand the country's frustration? see the will of the elected house and move as quickly we have to support quickly as we have to support this legislation so we can get it on the statute books and then get flights up and running? and as we're as i've said previously, we're already operational already doing the operational work that's required make work that's required to make sure can get flights up sure that we can get flights up and this is one part of a plan thatis and this is one part of a plan that is working. we're carrying on doing all the other things that are meaning that we can get boat numbers down and working with other countries to smash crime upstream , interdict crime gangs upstream, interdict boats engines as they travel boats and engines as they travel across the continent , make sure across the continent, make sure that we strengthen our returns agreements . continue to find agreements. continue to find those who working here those who are work

it is up to the - house of lords this week. this what the kee- house of lords this week. we will talk about that _ they keep saying... we will talk about that a _ they keep saying... we will talk about that a bit _ they keep saying... we will talk about that a bit later. _ they keep saying... we will talk about that a bit later. we - they keep saying... we will talk| about that a bit later. we talked about that a bit later. we talked about it at length last week with keir starmer and with rishi sunak the week before. grant shapps, thank you for coming in. we'll chew that over in a few minutes. our politicians are all having to respond to a world that is changing fast in all sorts of ways. of course, the political map has changed in this country too, a lot, in the last few years, not least in scotland where the once all mighty snp has lost its all powerful boss, lost its secure lead in the polls, might lose half its seats in the general election, and has lost its mojo. on thursday i sat down with the first minister, humza yousaf — where he seemed extraordinarly sure about

that is not the constitutional role of the house of lords . ole constitutional role of the house of lords. its role is to scrutinise detail and process and try to ensure that and to try to ensure that legislation is competent , posing legislation is competent, posing the underlying politics of legislation is not really what it's there for. it's more there to delve into the fine print and under the salisbury addison convention, the house of lords is not meant to block legislation, at least at second reading. that is, in elected party's manifestos and reducing immigration was in the 29 manage nato. so the real question is, is the house of lords on thin ice.7 there is the house of lords on thin ice? there was a big attempt to reform it under the coalition there's a feeling that appointed peers don't have legitimacy and it's got much more deeply involved in the weeds of politics, particularly conservative politics, in recent years. is this something that a democracy we can cope with or are the benefits of the house of lords still sufficient to outw

the house of— obligations and i would say... the house of lordsupon a court of appeat— suggests in reference upon a court of appeal case of the scent of human rights _ of appeal case of the scent of human rights against the prime minister in 2018 and _ rights against the prime minister in 2018 and a — rights against the prime minister in 2018 and a statement five years ago by the _ 2018 and a statement five years ago by the noble lord, lord foulkes, that the — by the noble lord, lord foulkes, that the ministerial code still requires _ that the ministerial code still requires compliance with international law obligations but i have to _ international law obligations but i have to say the court of appeal sadly— have to say the court of appeal sadty for— have to say the court of appeal sadly for them did not deal with the issue _ sadly for them did not deal with the issue of— sadly for them did not deal with the issue of parliamentary sovereignty which _ issue of parliamentary sovereignty which will — issue of parliamentary sovereignty which will be

house lords for? if all the house of lords for? if all it's doing is frustrating the electorate? e the views of the house of commons. >> but angela smith is leader of the house of lords. >> is absolutely clear. we're there to review and revise . there to review and revise. >> so you on the one side got that group who might want to frustrate it, but there is the vast bulk of peers in all the different parties who actually want to produce good legislation i >> -- >> on the point to make is , of >> on the point to make is, of course, we should make to viewers, shouldn't we? the government does not have a majority in the house of lords. that big problem. i mean, that is the big problem. i mean, it be said that it needs to be said that repeatedly. i think there's a third it's a third or quarter. >> it's tory quarter. » n-s quarter. >> it's the tory >> it's of tory peers, the tory peers the whole number. it's peers of the whole number. it's about now. about 40% now. >> we are the largest group >> it's we are the largest group . we have the largest larger numeric margin over the labour p

what can the government do if the house of reject the bill? well, of lords reject the bill? a bill of importance reaches the house of lords, i think it's important to remind the upper chamber of the sword of damocles held by a horse's hair. that is the parliament act of 1911, that hangs ominously overits of 1911, that hangs ominously over its head after tumultuous few years of dispute over lloyd george's people's budget. that was to increase the lower rate of income tax to 3.75% and the upper rate to 5, almost the good old days, the commons resolved to limit the powers of the house of lords and passed the bill, which in its preamble states that intends to subsidise that it intends to subsidise shoot for the house of lords as it is at present exists a second chamber constituted on a popular instead of an hereditary basis. so let the upper chamber bear in mind the unfinished business in the parliament act when it debates and amends the safety of rwanda bill in the coming weeks. and as the prime minister said this press this morning, that his press conference the right thing. c

i've rwanda bill is debated in the house of lords . i've got house of lords.me why she wants to block the bill. plus, donald says the west must donald trump says the west must prepare three. prepare for world war three. we're sending off on we're sending troops off on diversity are too we diversity training. are too we woke for war? talking of woke , woke for war? talking of woke, could winston churchill be played by a black actor? it's a brand spanking new patrick christys inaya. it's nine till 11 pm. be there >> welcome back. we've been discussing university sponsored mass migration and french farmers. and you've been responding. james says the uk universities have bankrupted themselves on capital investment to attract chinese students. these students return to china to create own colleges, so to create their own colleges, so we're shooting ourselves in the foot . and jane, jane, what foot. and jane, jane, what you're saying really you're saying is really interesting and important. incredible pictures coming out of i don't just think of france. i don't just

and the rwanda bill will now go to the house of lords where it will be scrutinised like any other billany other piece of legislation. they will not be treated in any way differently by the lords, it will not be treated in any way differently by the lords, but the lords will perform theirfunction, very important in our democracy that we have a chamber that can scrutinise legislation in a way that the lords does. again, i don't really understand the point that the prime minister was trying to make there. now, the prime minister insists that a deterrent, a strong deterrent is needed in order to stop the small boats. does labour agree that a deterrent is needed and what would your deterrent be? yes, we have to have a deterrent, what is clear is that if you can only send 1% of the people coming across the channel in small boats to rwanda, that is never going to be a deterrent. you are dealing with people who have risked life and limb who are escaping violence and persecution, they are going to take a 1% risk of possibly being sent to rwanda. so rwanda will never work as a deterrent. what we

back to the house of lords and add continuing debate over the rwanda legislation. ly to ensure that balance, the balance of the core of our democracy. it would not do for one of the legs to instruct another as to how to operate or how to look at a particular issue, and by way of example it would be quite wrong of the house of lords were to instruct the house of lords were to instruct the judiciary as to whether it hear a particular case. i do hope that the prime minister, sitting atop, as he does, the government leg of the stool, will reflect on those simple thoughts as he thinks back to his words of the 18th of january at the downing street press conference concerning our role in this bill. the duties of this house are inextricably linked with a series of conventions, by which we, an unelected chamber, cohabit with our elected neighbour. among these conventions, the salisbury—addison conventions, the salisbury—addison convention is especially pertinent today and to this bill in general. the convention has a number of parts that, in simplifying matters for reasons o

so he's got to get the house of lords. get through the house of lords. en it's still going end get through the house of lords. an> i've tried >> well, i've, i've, i've tried to rishi sunak a pint of

i want to talk to you though the house of lords. though about the house of lords.rted conversations now the treaty. when it now about the treaty. when it comes is comes to the uk and rwanda. is it are saying it time some people are saying it's it time some people are saying wsfime it time some people are saying it's time to scrap the house of lords altogether. others are saying reform . saying it needs serious reform. can't wait to hear what jacqueline has to about jacqueline has to say about that. your thoughts that. but tell me your thoughts too, in two. >> hello there, i'm michelle dewberry. >> this is dewbs& co on gb news. i've got to say, i do really enjoy the conversations that we have in the brit, which has been covering it all. we've been covering it all. we've been covering spinal surgery, medication, name it. do medication, you name it. i do like conversations , but like how brit conversations, but ineed like how brit conversations, but i need bring it back on air. i need to bring it back on air. because tonight i want talk because tonight i want to talk t

government has no majority house of lords. majority in the house of lords. it's know, sort of it's full of, you know, sort of worthy lefties, frankly, we know that they're to hate this that they're going to hate this bill and that they're going to do everything they to can block it. you know, we've got it. but, um, you know, we've got we're going to have to shame them into approving because them into approving it because at the end of the day, the unelected house, an unelected, unrepresentative house of lefties should not be able to block something that's so important to british people. important to the british people. >> well, it's not all an unrepresentative house of lefties. the point lefties. i mean, i see the point you're to make, but is you're trying to make, but it is largely they're not affiliated. what there are, though, is there are we are there are archbishops who we know have serious concerns, including the archbishop of canterbury, doesn't he? who says that god doesn't want this ? that god doesn't want this? >> yeah. well, look, you know, we're n

, yesterday, the house of lords had a vote on a connected issue which is a treaty that the uk governmentesigned to beef up the legal protections for its asylum policy, and the house of lords voted last night, not to ratify that treaty. that is not a binding vote, the government can and i think will ignore it and will accuse the house of lords of frustrating the will of the elected house of commons, but it is a sign of some of the opposition, the scale of the opposition, that the scale of the opposition, that the government is likely to meet when that piece of legislation on this issue arrives in the house of lords on monday. thank you for the moment. now to a major story here in the uk. up to 39,000 homes in the north of england, scotland and northern ireland have spent a second night without power because of the damage caused by storm isha. engineers are working to reconnect homes but many are bracing themselves for more extreme weather and travel disruption as storm jocelyn now approaches. mairead smyth has the report. the damage done by storm isha. trees down across the uk, the strong

illegally here back to rwanda has passed through the house of commons after the tory rebellion failed to materialise. he has urged the house of lordse end, the rebellion in the house of commons which was supposed to happen, only 11 voted against it. we will have continued analysis and on any of today's news on the website. we will be back shortly. do stay with us on bbc news. we started with a very cold morning leading into a bitterly cold day. through today and tomorrow it is going to remain cold. there'll be further snow showers, especially so in the north of the country with some blizzards and drifting. into the weekend, it turns much milder than it has been, but it's going to be wet and windy. so the met office amber weather warning still in force for the far north of scotland and the northern isles. we could see a further 5 to 15 centimetres of snow, with blizzards and drifting. 5 to 10 centimetres coming out of some of the snow showers in northern ireland and a few wintry showers across the irish sea and the north sea coastline, making it inland at times. but despite the fact most of us will have a dry day with some sunshine,

having cleared the house of commons, the legislation will now go to the house of lords, where it's likelymore opposition. peter saull, bbc news. we expect to hear from the prime minister shortly, there will be a news conference at downing street around 10:15am and he is expected to speak and take questions from reporters. we will bring that to you when it happens. pakistan has confirmed it carried out missile strikes inside iran targeting militants of pakistani origin. earlier, iranian media reported that several missiles had hit a village on the iran—pakistan border — in the sistan—balochistan province. a number of people are reported to have been injured. it comes two days after iran conducted strikes inside pakistani territory — saying it was targeting anti—iran groups. pakistan's ministry of foreign affairs issused a statement about its military action inside iran. it says it used specifically targeted precision strikes, against pakistani terrorists, who have based themselves in ungoverned spaces inside iran. it says it had shared evidence of their activities — but no action was taken

but i'm not fan of the house but i'm not a fan of the house of lords, so if they delay it, they the ofhe will of the house of elected of commons. the elected representatives, then it's an even greater excuse, frankly, to reform house of lords into reform the house of lords into something that is credible and sensible. that's my view. sensible. that's that's my view. the whatever the rwanda legislation, whatever they , whatever happens, no they do, whatever happens, no planes will take off before the election. it's not a deterrent, as seeing. we've had 1000 as we're seeing. we've had 1000 people dangerous people take that dangerous journey month of january. journey in the month of january. and sadly, at least five people have lost lives. it's have lost their lives. it's clearly deterrent. it's clearly not a deterrent. it's not to be a deterrent yet, not going to be a deterrent yet, is it, because it's not been enacted doesn't matter. enacted yet? doesn't matter. it's it out there it's the threat of it out there and still prepared to and people are still prepared to pay and people are st

the government comment the house of lords. the goverrongoing comment the house of lords. he goverrongoing legal comment the house of lords. the goverrongoing legal. comment the house of lords. the goverrongoing legal. caseomment the house of lords. the goverrongoing legal . case eye1ent on an ongoing legal. case eye tests may be required for drivers over the age of 70. the automobile association is calling for the mandatory screening after the number of license holders, license holding drivers over the age of 90 doubled in the last decade . a doubled in the last decade. a record 153,000 britons in that age group held a full licence in november , with no requirements november, with no requirements for additional qualifying or screening. the aa wants drivers to be required to show evidence of regular eye tests once they reach 70, to improve road safety . meanwhile the party continues in the capital as brass bands and dancers celebrate the new yeah and dancers celebrate the new year. along with this . going year. along with this. going away , kwarteng get away from me i away,

, because forth between the house of conidea s lords, because forth between the house of conideath between the house of conidea is that lords, because forth between the house of conidea is that won't, because forth between the house of conidea is that won't eveniuse the idea is that it won't even be, um, it won't even be at the earliest stages of being finished easter march, finished until easter march, april time. >> well , that's where the >> well, that's where the politics comes in. we know we have a prime minister who's committed delivering this, committed to delivering this, and needs to get it done. we also understand that will also understand that there will be election at some point be an election at some point this yeah so there are this year. yeah so there are politics. did politics. you know, i did see a number of old or new number of old labour or new labour figures floating around number of old labour or new labihousejres floating around number of old labour or new labihouse ofs floating around number of old labour or new labihouse of lordsting around number of old l

well, look, no one is a bigger critic of the current house i am. in house of lords than i am. ant report reforming important report on reforming the lords the the house of lords with the respublica think and sir respublica think tank and sir roger scruton and others. is roger scruton and others. it is broken. full political broken. it's full of political cronies. it's also far too large . david cameron made more nobles than king louis the 14th. it's actually the second largest chamber in the world after china. i want to see it halved in size. i want to see actually, almost all political parties removed from what all political parties remove the house of parties remove from the house of lords they can be truly lords so they can be truly independent, for british independent, a place for british experts in every field to improve legislation , and a place improve legislation, and a place for independent people's peers who truly represent regions of the country which we don't have at the moment. no more party whips, no more cronies putting politics before the national interest. but

and so it continues, on the house of lords. here is the story of the day.to the right, 320. the noes to the left, 276. the sentence that tells you the government has won. after all the noise, the numbers. the rwanda plan lives on. this is what all of this is all about. the government has promised to stop the boats. the numbers are down, but migrants keep coming. this was dover this morning. the rwanda plan is about putting people off attempting this crossing, but no—one who's made this journey has been sent there yet. in the commons this evening, the home secretary had a go at uniting his bickering party, and turning his attention to opposition parties. the gulf between our aspiration to control our borders and their blase, laissez—faire attitude to border control could not be more stark. stopping the boats is notjust a question of policy. it is a question of morality, and it is a question of fairness. what a farce. today and yesterday have been just another day of tory chaos and carnage. a prime minister with no grip while the british taxpayer is continual

british prime minister rishi sunak urges the house of lords to do the right thing and back his rwandan

forgafter the house of lords. bill after the house of lords. >> well, that's that's standard practiceard practithere's legislation >> well, that's that's standard practithere's legamendments when there's often amendments following the house of lords and the will the house of lords will obviously in itself. >> going f" p" >> i'm going to ask you both this. would you your this. would you bet your mortgage sunak leading mortgage on rishi sunak leading youum, mortgage on rishi sunak leading you um, yes . >> um, yes. >> um, yes. >> stephanie peacock, you need to look at it from the from the other side, as it were. >> surely they can't put it >> surely they can't put a is it a prime minister? >> surely they can't put a is it amean, prime minister? >> surely they can't put a is it amean, i've prime minister? >> surely they can't put a is it amean, i've lostrime minister? >> surely they can't put a is it amean, i've lost track.’iinister? >> surely they can't put a is it amean, i've lost track. inister? >> surely they can't put a is it amean, i've lost track. i mean, i mean, i've lost track. i

it will then move along the corridor out there to the house of lords where there to the house of lords fears with legal backgrounds will be again going through all the same stages in the house of commons line by line, going through that bill and try to make their own changes. if they succeed thenit their own changes. if they succeed then it returns back to the comments. this is not over yet. once it does become law that many expected to be tested in the court. that was the feeling amongst those rebel conservative mps this evening many will vote for us but they said very publicly they don't think it's going to work. very publicly they don't think it's going to work-— very publicly they don't think it's going to work. tested in the courts james going to work. tested in the courts james cleverly _ going to work. tested in the courts james cleverly did _ going to work. tested in the courts james cleverly did try _ going to work. tested in the courts james cleverly did try to _ going to work. tested in the courts james cleverly did try to reassure i james cleverly did try to reassure people

in just the last half-hour, the house of lords delays ratifying the new rwanda treaty until kigali hasral changes to its asylum procedures. they voted in favor of a motion to call another government not to officially validate the treaty until the protections that provides have been fully implemented. let's go to westminster to speak to our colleague who was there. as i understand it, this is the treaty on which the bill is based. so what does that suggest about the attitude of the lord toward the bill? >> i think that is right. this is the treaty the government signed with rwanda to put in place or add legal weight to a number of measures that aim to address the concerns from the supreme court. they said the government's plan to send some asylum-seekers to rwanda was unlawful because they did not think rwanda was a safe country. the government signed this treaty to put in place a number of measures to try to address those concerns. what the house of lords have done is to vote to say the government should delay ratifying or officially confirming this treaty until the measures are in pla

now, the house of deportations. now, the house of lordsl vote tonight on what is the second reading of this bill. but it looks like we could be about to enter a game of parliamentary ping pong . what parliamentary ping pong. what doesit parliamentary ping pong. what does it all mean? well, christopher hope gb news political editor , joins me. so political editor, joins me. so the house of lords tonight listening to the speeches , is listening to the speeches, is going to vote against the rwanda bill. isn't it? second reading should go through. >> actually, should labour are unlikely to oppose lib dems will oppose and others might. >> and the numbers are so unclear because of course, the government has around 40% the government has around 40% of the peers , and a big peers there, and there's a big chunk crossbench peers. they chunk of crossbench peers. they go they feel they need go where they feel they need need and that's meant to need to go, and that's meant to be of second be the power of the second chamber, that not really chamber, tha

the house of lords and i hope it_ to go into the house of lords and i hope it happens pretty quicklyent which is about why it shows people should give him another in downing street. you are looking at strikes. this is specific to northern ireland. big strike action. people in northern ireland will face severe disruption today, as more than 100,000 public sector workers including teachers, nurses and bus drivers go on strike. the co—ordinated action between 16 trade unions will see workers walk out in ongoing disputes over pay. our ireland correspondent sara girvin has more. we look after the most vulnerable in society, and our wage does not represent that at all. abigail is a classroom assistant for children with special educational needs. she did the same job in england, but is paid much less in northern ireland. the pay rises by comparison in england to here, the pay rises have been lower in northern ireland and the pay rate in itself has been lower and is lower. so whilst i'm doing the same job, my pay does not represent that. today, she'lljoin thousands of other public sector wor

it's the house of it's got through the house of commons. got to get commons. we've got to get it through house of lordsthrough the house of lords. there's they're there's no doubt they're going to do to try and wreck it. they'll do everything they'll to try and wreck it. they'll do everyiting they'll to try and wreck it. they'll do everyiting so they'll to try and wreck it. they'll do everyiting so we'vehey'll to try and wreck it. they'll do everyiting so we've got ll to try and wreck it. they'll do everyiting so we've got to send it back. so we've got to return to the lords every return it to the lords every time with the strongest majorities. ultimately they majorities. and ultimately they should roll over in exactly the way have in the past when way they have in the past when they've they've had some they've when they've had some challenges. that challenges. i am worried that they really, they won't. but really, this is the time where the elected members, house of commons, members, the house of commons, show might tell show their might and tell the lords that they are there to advise when is advise.

now though, it's to the house though, it's going to the house of and the house in the of lords and thean majority . don't have an overall majority. and those conservative and those those conservative peers tend to be a bit further to the left of the conservative party than their counterparts in the house of commons. and basically, that means that the house of lords wants to water down the rwanda legislation . down the rwanda legislation. rishi sunak stood up, uh, did a press conference to journalists yesterday. essentially, it was speaking to the house of lords and telling them that they had to do the right thing and hurry up and get the legislation through. but through. paraphrasing a bit, but that's was saying. now that's what he was saying. now the lords have come back and said, no, we're not going to power through. going power this through. we're going to scrutinise the same way to scrutinise it in the same way that we scrutinise all other legislation. out legislation. and they set out a timetable two months. the timetable of two months. the earliest they're going to ratify this le

house of commons. was passed in commons. this bill was passed in the of in the house the house of lords in the house of commons. um, it's gone to the house now. they are house of lords now. they are going and it down. going to try and water it down. um, the parties, the lib um, and the parties, the lib dems are the ones that are actually going to potentially do this, tension this, um, difficult tension by voting against the safety of rwanda its second rwanda bill at its second reading. highly unusual reading. it's highly unusual move. a fatal move. and it tabled a fatal motion kill off the motion that could kill off the government's legislation. now, at of the day, the house at the end of the day, the house of can override of commons can override the lords go through. but lords so it will go through. but it's just a game of ping pong. meanwhile, here meanwhile, we're all out here getting still getting frustrated and still talking about the damn rwanda bill. >> yes, but it's about to happen again. rebellion, again. another rebellion, possibly the prime minister possibly for the prime minister with ban and same w

the house of lords is once again tonight debating the government's anti—illegal migration rwanda billwith peers unsure of whether or not the country is safe. the archbishop of canterbury today criticised the principles of the bill, while the liberal democrats are trying to bring it down altogether over the government's plan, aims to halt legal challenges against sending asylum seekers to rwanda . asylum seekers to rwanda. however, peers have indicated they will try to strip out its key powers. is, meanwhile, more than a thousand illegal migrants have crossed the english channel so far this year , as new home so far this year, as new home office figures show 388 people made the journey just this weekend. the highest number to cross in a single day so far this year was 358. they came in eight small boats on january the 17th. two weeks ago. so now a conservative mp has resigned because he says he can't afford to pay his mortgage on his annual salary of £118,000. mid—norfolk mp george freeman quit as science minister in november , citing his mortgage november, citing his mortgage rising f

i can now speak with lord john mann, who's a member of the house lords the former house of lords andn. so we were just hypothesising there about are we going to see brexit mark two the return of brexit, the lords doing their very best skulduggery to derail and pop the lilo of the rwanda bill. do you think that's going to happen? or i might just be in a grizzled old cynic. well there's a lot of chaos there, but i think the chaos is much more chaotic than you're making out. >> i can't see a process where the lords can delay for long. um, i think it's reasonably predictable. there'll be some awkward amendments passed by the lords that, uh, the prime minister will want to overturn in the in the house of commons. but he can do that very quickly. but he can do that very quickly. but this isn't the moving feast that brexit was. and, you know, i was in the middle of all of that brexit was a huge moving feast, which allowed the lords to do whatever they wanted . this to do whatever they wanted. this is a single piece of legislation that's quite different , is a single piece of legislation tha