howard baker is the epitome of a republican. obviously went on to serve later to be chief of staff to ronald reagan. i think history never comes back tohi that profile in courage, wn he got in his car, comes to the capitol building to the oval office, to tell the democratic presidente you're right, amazin. think about it in today's terms. >> think about the idea of putting the country first, think about both parties. just thought i would say that. in the back, get to a few more questions. >> i get, i get -- >> very pushy panel. >> i get to mildly -- >> yes, burt. >> there is no question that carter had, everybody is surprised to see what a successful legislative record he had. one of these reasons is, that while we did have a reasonably successful legislative program, we had very little level of political support. i never forget going out to give a speech in 1979 i think in detroit, and detroit at that time i got a bunch of suburban newspapers. after i gave the speech i went with a drink for a reporters from five or six suburban

i said how howard baker started out saying he was supporting the president. on the house judiciary committee, there was a group of republicans that voted against the articles of impeachment. they said, we don't see enough evidence. >> right. >> supreme court ultimately came out and said, you've got to turn over president nixon, these tapes. and on the tapes there was no question about it. president nixon's own voice, saying -- cia, you stop the fbi's investigation. >> right. >> every single one of them said they supported impeachment. that's the difference. >> we still have a lot of facts that have to come out here. so -- but thank you, liz holzman for that perspective. >>> it is, though, primary day in trump country. voting is happening right now in four bright red states. the democrats are hungry for wins in a part of the country they once controlled. this was a while ago now. the deep south. our jake on soboroff will join us live from texas, up next. 's f♪ ♪ just say the words ♪ and we'll beat the birds down to acapulco bay ♪ ♪ it's perfect for a flying ho

we never would have one without him and in this era of the pre-polarization howard baker stands to meas one of kennedy's profiles in courage. >> and you remember. >> i would just add that why should we give back the canal actually we stole it from them. [laughter] and baker said mr. president you only get one of these. he wanted him on salt is that i boarded going to the well 11 -- one. >> with a congressional liaison to lead the team and the senate we had a lot of experience. obviously going on to the chief of staff later in history never comes back to that profile in courage in coming into the oval office you are right. i think about the idea of putting the country first and those parties i thought i would say that. in the back we will get to a few more questions. you are a very pushy panel. [laughter] >> there is no question everybody was surprised to see why the full legislative record he had that while we did have a reasonably successful legislative program , very low level of political support will never forget giving a speech in detroit at that time had a bunch of suburban news

the senate watergate committee begins to act, and two of the key figures, sam ervin and howard baker.rvin, a democrat, conservative. baker from tennessee, one of the up-and-coming stars in the south. it is notable that they are both from the south. the investigations again to -- begin to reveal more, including tapes. the president declares executive privilege. the courts say no. he tries transcripts. that does not work out too well. you have to hear the tapes. he tries redaction's from the tapes. ultimately, congress determines to move towards impeachment, and when that happens nixon chooses , to resign. so on top of the economic turmoil of the 1970's, on top of what has happened in vietnam, you have the scandal of watergate. in essence, you have a nation wondering again what has gone wrong? what has happened with our institutions, economic power, militarily, diplomatically? why is this not working out? spiro agnew had essentially been forced from office, former vice president under nixon, replacing him was gerald ford. a well-meaning congressman. ford, in 1974, finds himself thrust i

howard baker, al gore. i think it was 1990. having said all that, trump won tennessee by 26 points.nd he does have to cot pakm ba the fact that he has not been in politics for a long time.basket the fact that he has not been in politics for a long time. it doesn't work for others. my favorite example is jeb bush and hillary clinton. how he navigates that will make all the difference. >> she is a house republican, so he is the flip side. so it has just about everything. base turnout, tsuburbans. a lot of fun. we'll because from politics to check in on hawaii. new evacuation orders are in effect. the lava is spilling into the ocean. scott mclean is live near the lava flow right on the water. dramatic images. what are you seeing? >> reporter: first off you will for give the shaky shot. the surf here is massive. but check out the view that we have. it is stunning. so all the dark rock that you see there, that is fresh lava that has come down in just the past couple weeks. and then you see through the smoke there, that lava streak coming down. there is a boat in our way, this is just a f

this is senator howard baker, republican of tennessee. >> my primary thesis is still what did the presidentw, and when did he know it? >> so, jon, other than rocking a seersucker suit as so many tennesseans have learned to do, you're asked all the time how is this similar to watergate? how is it unlike watergate? there is your setup. >> right. well, there's legal time and there's political time. and robert mueller, like archibald cox, like leon jaworski, is moving according to a more geological clock than the politics or the media would like it to be. senator baker there, you know, the hearings opened exactly 11 months after the break-in. and it took then another 14 -- 15 months, i guess, before nixon's resignation. president nixon only resigned after the supreme court ruled that he had to hand over the tapes. there was a tape from june 21st, 1972, that had him asking, i think, the cia to block the fbi or maybe vice versa into the investigation of watergate. and these things move more slowly than people tend to either hope for or remember. and i think we're going to see that here. this is i

robert taft, lyndon johnson, everett dishingson, robert byrd, howard baker and bob doil, among , among others, raised the public profile and prestige of the position and underscored the importance of the garner, barkley precedent. indeed, the position continues to evolve to this very day. the contemporary positions of senate majority and minority leaders have come a long way from the position of party caucus chairman. those party posts emerged in turn, from the caucus system which had been created to deal with the reality of partisan affiliation and the limitation of the senate's constitutional presiding officers. so in summary, my friends, the creation and enhancement of the majority and minority positions over the past century reflect an institution evolving to meet the needs of the time. it's difficult not to agree with dr. richard baker who wrote of the emergence of the formal position of senate floor leader that it represents the most significant institutional development in the senate's history. kentuckians have played an important role in this institutional development, includin

difference between watergate and the present is at least at the time of watergate, senior republicans howard baker, people like that were prepared to stand up for the constitution against richard nixon, against the leader of their party. that's just no longer the case today because i think trump has so corroded the currency of trust and of truth and basic factualness, the republicans seem perfectly willing to go along with his alternative. >> well, said -- >> alternative universe. >> that leads to this, only the people on the way out the door like senator corker and charlie dent of pennsylvania and this fellow, jeff flake who is about to speak here in a big speech up at harvard law school today, he talkeded about trump has debased the presidency. he's another one of these lame duck guys now tree to speak a republican who tell us the truth. let's listen to him today. >> our presidency has been debased by a figure who seemingly has a bottomless appetite for destruction and division. and only a passing familiarity with how the constitution works and our article one branch after congress, the congress

howard baker, the senate and majority leader once said that the essence of senate leadership is becoming an eloquent listener. that means hearing and understanding what people have to say, because what they are saying is not always what they mean. my conclusion is that by their words and by their actions, what democrats really were saying is we won't change one sentence of obamacare, even the parts that obviously are not working, and even when most of the democrats would support the policy and the changes. given the democrats' attitude, mr. president, i know of nothing that republicans and democrats can agree on to stabilize the individual health insurance market. i know of nothing. no one regrets congress' failure to reach an agreement on this more than i do. i ran for the united states senate because i want to achieve bipartisan results on important issues, and i've often been able to do that. but i literally struck out here. when democrats blocked these proposals from being included in the omnibus in march 1 and said now let's look down the road, insurance companies will announce rate

howard bake, he enters. >> the gold is right where we are? >> it's underneath us. >> we're walking on gold. >> pretty much, the hills of gold and all those ant neck dotes. >> baker'sthe royal treasure inside. >> bringing an industry back to life and also creating many more wedding rings in the future. gayle. >> all right, jonathan, thank you. i have to say i'd never heard of welsh gold but that's the thing with cbs this morning, you learn something new every day. coming up next, some high profile guests that we're expecting to see here tomorrow. we'll be right back reporting from windsor. you know at the heart of what mayor villaraigosa is doing today, he's fighting to make this country more equal and more just. president obama called him one of america's finest mayors. he's more prepared to get things done. antonio for governor. he's more prepared to get things done. john chiang's father came it'here with little money,on. but big dreams for a better future. now john has a chance to make history. a champion of the underdog, john took on wells fargo when it ripped off working families. and against the odds, he helped saved california from financial disaster during