both oh, howard baker. right. that his father in senator everett dirksen was like congressman duncan's father. he knew that racism was wrong and everett dirksen had helped pass the civil rights act. and howard baker voted for. well, congressman, father went on this very street. this library sits when the sit ins were taking place right on this street. and you could throw a rock from where was this library and hit where those citizens were taking place when were taking place here they soon were taking place in knoxville, tennessee. and it was john duncan singer, congressman duncan's father, who basically pushed shoved, negotiated and worked out so that for the first time in the history of knoxville, it didn't matter what your race is. you could be served at a lunch counter or restaurant or a public in knoxville, tennessee. there were some things then that were out of bounds right now. and congressman, you might want to comment. you might not, but there were some things that were out of bounds. and for your father a

you mentioned howard baker and everett dirksen. my dad and senator baker came from tennessee.ator baker one of the political stories he said his first speech 1966 he spoke for well over an hour and covered every issue he could think of. the democrats were the majority's of the democrat in the chair and senator dirksen who was his father-in-law he went to senator dirksen and asked him what he thought and he saidtr which i will try to imite you want to enjoy the luxury of an unexpressed opinion and do you know i tell that story for the humor but in my entire political career i tried to take that advice and i will telln' yu why. i didn't think that it was wise to take a stand on every issue were that it could really even do justice if you try to discover everything so in my time in office if you look back at my career, i really emphasized three things. i emphasized fiscal conservatism because i was brought up to think death wasn't a good thing. they told me one time one of the departments had a notebook about all the members of congress and at the bottom they had typical question

had a great respect for howard baker particularly after the panama canal treaty. but now we've got republicans, literature if the political party any more. speak more like a weird cold given by all kinds of conspiracy theories and so forth. i think it's damaging the country. we're turning towards autocracy. i think this election is a choice between democracy and autocracy. they refuse to do anything about an important issues. i think howard baker would have been concerned about global warming, and so would eisenhower and maybe nixon as well. the one major political party in his country that has, or in the world, that refuses to accept the reality of global warming is the republican party and their the ones holding up progress. meanwhile, talking all these migrants that are coming in, they're coming in because of global warming. they can't plant crops in motor am one of which are thoughts are the future of your party and what they should be doing? i like, baker used to, and joe evans, u2, although they were different parties, they would issue press conferences or p

you mentioned howard baker though, and everett dirksen. e baker -- center banker and might dad both came from scott county, tennessee, but senator baker, i think his favorite political story was he said his first speech in the ascendant 1966, he said he spoke for well over an hour and covered every issue that he could think of, and he said when he got, the only people in the chamber at the time with a democrat who was, the democrats win a majority so the democrat in the chair and snore dirksen who was his father-in-law. he went up to snore dirksen after that speech and asked him what he thought any said howard, said, snore dirksen fit in his beautiful voice, that he had, which i won't try to imitate but he said howard, you might occasionally want to enjoy the luxury of an unexpressed opinion. [laughing] and do you know, do you know i tell that story for the humor, but in my entire political career i tried to take that advice, and i'll tell you why. i didn't think, i didn't think that it was wise to take a stand on every issue. i didn't thin

both howard baker on that. father-in-law and he knew nracism was wrong and they have helped pass the civil rights act. congressman duncan's father on the street the library system system on the street in knoxville tennessee, john stuck in senior and pushed, shoved and worked out so for the first time in the history of knoxville tennessee, it didn't matter, it could be served at a restaurant, public place in knoxville tennessee. some things were out of bounds. you might want to, but some things were out of bounds. for your father and you and a host of first publicans, racism was not political context.to so they came together. today we look at critical race theory evenn though there's no e school in tennessee, i knew wt he came up it was about the next election and making it an issue. when you come down the escalatoi talking about those people, rapists and murderers you talk about racism. issues across the country right now, race is in the heat and hurt into many of these elections in the country desperately need

howard baker's immediate reaction was, that is not the ronald reagan i saw the past two days.that's not the ronald reagan i negotiated with. yes, we will consider it, because serious people have raised it, but i don't think that is a priority, and he looked around at the two of us that were there, and if either of you think otherwise, let me know. we went on about our business. a year later, jane mayer, -- wrote landslide. they had access to that transition report, and we had a three or four-day firestorm. we were hiding important information from the american people and or that we were spying on the president. two decades later, bill o'reilly, and -- writes the same story, it's the same document, and again, we spent, howard and i, we spent more time, we spent days, refuting that there was a coup or a cover-up, or anything else, then the ten minutes we spent being briefed about a potential 25th amendment issue. so, the point i'm trying to make is the president's health is the third rail for white house staff. it is the third rail. and that probably frustrates a considered, org

that that's pre-selected five separate ps3 teams of former respected officials like howard baker the one-time senate republican leader former cia director richard helms former un ambassador, gene kirkpatrick former cabinet. secretary james schlesinger and even folks like donald rumsfeld and -- cheney. who all were given special instructions for evacuation and in an emergency the pre-assigned ps3 teams would report to different bunkers command posts and continuity facilities to be ready to serve a presidential successor. so when someone like a commerce secretary or agriculture secretary would arrive at an emergency site he or she would find a white house staff and government already in waiting including an experienced leader like don rumsfeld or -- cheney already selected and in position as their chief of staff designee. a full records of the ps3 program will be declassified in the years ahead and we have no idea whether there's a similar program that exists today, but this problem of how you prepare a successor to assume the presidency not in a theoretical sense, but in an immediate

howard baker, one man, one vote. lindsey graham and john mccain, immigration.ou cannot pick one issue. nancy kassebaum, ted kennedy, education. you cannot pick a domestic issue from that time in which ted kennedy's ability to forge an alliance with a republican president or senator was not a key factor. there is the house of representatives, the white house, other committees in the senate. but the key so often in many debates is kennedy's ability, time after time he forged bipartisan alliances. i think it was thomas jefferson who said great measures have to be passed with all factions in support. jefferson said it better than i just did. i think that was the guiding light of ted kennedy throughout his career. susan: his seat on the judiciary committee and influence on the modern supreme court, we have a clip from 1987. >> a land in which women would be forced into black -- back alley abortions, blacks would have to sit at separate counters, police could break down doors in midnight raids, and schoolchildren would not be taught about evolution. and the doors of

as howard baker used to say, you know, in politics, overnight is a lifetime.ut they do see the trends setting in the wrong direction and they're worried about it because, you know, conventional wisdom right now is that they're going to lose control of the house and, of course, the senate remains in contention and that's important to them. because all of the seats, so many, not just a handful, but more, are margin of error seats right now. and you have a very unpopular president in a lot of these key states and so this is pushing the boulder up the hill for them and it's difficult when a president is out there saying, look, things are bad, things are in a ditch, but i'm the one who can get you out of the ditch, and people are sceptical about that and worried and even though 70% of americans believe that saving democracy is important, it's in single digits when you ask -- when you ask them whether it's one of their top issues. it's 9%. there you go. >> and adrian, it's harder when you're technically not in a ditch. we're not in a recession right now. we had a ro

politics, my dad and from howard baker and i, i think that that was a good thing. i was it was good for tennessee and good for america. i think i think we've i think we've stopped. thank you, gentlemen. we appreciate everyone being here with us live and on c-span. thank you for sharing your books and your time with us. appreciate it. head right there after about david. he's new york times best selling author of dreamland which is a book about the science of sleep, the king and queen of malibu. about that area of california. went from a sleepy small town to a place for celebrities and a great song by hole in the nineties. and then black death at the golden about the bubonic plague and its arrival on the shores of america and the early 1900s. it came out originally in 2019 and hardcover and, then paperback right at the start of 2020. an interesting time for that. his writing has appeared in the new york times, the wall street journal and the los angeles times, among other publications. he's a senior reporter at reuters and he lives in montclair, new jersey. dave and

howard hillary is strike by ukraine against residential areas. this house was reduced to rubble, party visits, one of the residential areas targeted in the latest attack baker indian forces, as 4 people are reported injured during saturday. shelling of done that. and in the stories that shape the weak russia rejoins the grand export deal, as ukraine promises it won't lose the humanitarian corridor for military purposes. while moscow says it's ready to deliver grain for free to low income country, even if this field doesn't last an emotional return. moscow and he had conduct another prisoner's swap, exchanging $170.00 captured soldiers from each side of the russian troops described the views they witnessed in captivity. for those 3 months were living hell, but he should not be forest disabled soldiers, no legs to do sit ups for. and i saw some guys children, live wolf show their legs. they were swollen from beatings. oh, and thousands of people take to the streets across pakistan. to vent their anger, i'd be attempted assassination, a former prime minister in con, with from moscow to the world. this is the weekly, on our can or national, i'm rachel blevins a

he said could you and howard baker be elected at a? alongside his come standard danforth thought about a said yes, we could be elected but we could never be nominated. and that's the danger we've got right now. when the president, former president of the united states, tells over 20,000 documented lies or exaggerations are just things that are not true, and when you've got them my problem with herschel walker is not that he beat my balls, though we did every time i think it seemed like every time they played, my problem is not with ever since and if committed in the past. the problem is he's lying today and there's no regard for truth in some of these republican primaries and that's a real danger. that's different than it's been. to my republican friends, i hope you can retake your party and put it back on the noble path that is been on. in my little book which by the way you can get with this other great book -- [laughing] and my book, there's an essay on there about what i'm a democrat, then after that i say and write, i could write