and th--and that section is--what--basically, what the story is, is that--is that howard buffett, who is the son of warren buffett--i mean, this book really is an all-star cast. c-span: who's warren buffett? >> guest: warren buffett is the--the famed investor, whose--whose biographies are snapped up by everyone trying to figure out how berkshire hathaway made all its billions. he's the man who, probably more than anyone else--i think at this point, he's either the wealthiest man or the second wealthiest man, but probably more than anyone else is--is the sage of--of modern investing. and his son, howard, was assistant to the chairman, dwayne andreas. and in this story, in this event that takes place in the book, there was a--there was a--a point where they were discussing going to a chicago bears game, dick durbin and howard buffett. now whether a request was actually made or not is not quite clear. it is clear that there was a belief that a request was made. and adm and howard buffett was--was--was warned by a secretary, 'well, this--this this kind of thing, you know, might--might vio