joining me now is former democratic national chairman and physician howard dean, author of "howard dean's prescription for real health care reform." governor dean, great to have you on the program. >> thanks for having me. >> we're expecting bills from congress that will require americans to obtain insurance, offer subsidies for those who cannot afford it and require employers to provide coverage or pay a fee. broadly speaking is this enough to actually stem the growth in health care costs, in addition to getting those people in? >> you left out the most important part. they have an option for people that choose a public plan if they want to. the option to choose the public plan is all the difference between real reform and not real reform. allowing the public to essentially get in the medicare before they are 65 means that insurance companies are now going to have to start to dial back on costs, and that is absolutely critical to this whole thing. >> that is why initially we heard some noise from the ama, the american medical association. now we just talked a moment ago that this is dram

howard dean. >>> the new harry potter movie. how many awards it could get and what it may mean to the movie bottom line. how is hollywood doing in the middle of a downturn? "wall street journal" report begins right now. >> this is america's number one financial news program. "the wall street journal report." now, maria bartiromo. >> here's a look at what's making news as we head into a new week on wall street. we are in the thick of the earnings season. one of the most crucial in recent years. focus once again on the financials. beleaguered bank citigroup, which got a $45 billion capital injection from the federal government, showed a loss. not including gains from the sale of its stake in the smith barney business. many other companies have beaten analysts' expectations, including general electric -- ge is the parent of the company that produces this program. search giant google, bank of america, and ibm all beat analyst targets. also beating targets, pharmaceutical company johnson and johnson, investment bank goldman sachs, an

howard dean, former governor of vermont, head of the dnc and author of "howard dean's prescription forform." our panel remains with us. chris and jonathan and, governor, welcome back to the program. nice to see you. >> nice to be on. are we talking about one-month-old underwear? >> no, no, that's not fair. how about the beautiful technology of underwear that can last for a month? you got to sell it better, governor. >> how does it do in the swimming pool? can i beat michael phelps if i wear this stuff? >> maybe. i don't know. a lot of these technologies have different things they can do as you know with different pharmaceuticals. we've invend the world's best swimming suit by accident. let's cut the best health care program. how do we keep better care of our patients and create a system that does that. the subject today, insurance. why are they so afraid of a little more competition? why can't we break down state line so that we can get mayo clinic available on the internet? why not create a marketplace for competitive insurance and bidding and sales and all of us can look at the marke

howard dean.nks very much for joining us tonight. >> rachel, thanks for having me on. >> let me ask you first about the premise here. my sense is that there is not a democratic republican debate about how to reform health care. my sense is that it's more like democrats think there ought to be health care reform and republicans think there ought not be health care reform. do you think that's true? >> i think it's even deeper than that. i do think that's true. this is not even about democrats versus republicans. this is about the health insurance agency versus the american people. 72% of the american people want a public option. we want them to be able to make those choices. 50% of grass roots republicans think they ought to have a choice. so anybody who votes against the public option is not just voting a gens the democratic bill. they're voting for the insurance company and against the american public. that is going to be the cry in 2010. who are you going to vote for, the people who sent thru and

howard dean.ave a good night. >>> up next on msnbc the one, the only, yes, the rachel maddow show. hey, rachel. >> hey, lawrence. i had such a great job watching you tonight on "countdown." >> can i hang around and cohost with you? >> yes. we'll take up a split screen for the next hour if you don't mind. >> okay. >> maybe some other time i'll take you up on it. thank you for staying tune tonight at home. we'll have governor dean joining us to talk health care before he guest hosts "countdown" tomorrow night and wednesday night. also, this hour we'll have congressman barney frank here to talk about who exactly is fighting to keep the fine print on your credit card statement really, really, really small. we'll also be joined by pulitzer prize winner ron suskind. he'll be here to play by play the latest round in the most unexpected republican political boxing match ever. george w. bush versus dick cheney all coming up this hour. but we begin tonight with a little unexpected news from birtherville. de

our dane -- howard dean took as to what it-state strategy. i think it will be good for us on the policy side, and if we do it, we will have great benefits for all of our people running elections. i would encourage you as you go back to your communities and to the places where you live, if you don't web where you go to school, in gauge organizing for america where you are. they are doing a dance and canvases and town halls all of the country every weekend. there will be ofa chapter where you are. engaged in it. that is the second goal of the deal and say, making social change the grassroots policy. the third goal is the when you are familiar with, more with the state organizations to make them stronger. it is going to be how strong the 50 states are. justice chairman dean was working in those parties, so were we. we're doing that in a collaborative way, where ofa working in tandem with the state parties, we are sharing best practices and dollars. that is the third goal. that is what the dnc does, basically presidential success, brace for it po

howard dean had been a esidential candidate, bornof vermont and chrman of the democric national committee. before that he was known as . dean when heracticed medicine for more th a decade. bill frist was republan senate majority leader for four years until 2007. prior to entering polics he s a heart and lung transplant surgeo while the twof them rresent different parts of the politic spectrum, they agree that the nation's health ca system needs major changes. i am pleased to haveoth of them bacon this program. welcome. >>ood to be with you. >> tnks. rose: here's my sta. wh should the debe be about for the politicis who vote, fothe people in washington who care, and formericans who want better health care what ought to be the debate? >> i think there's two parts to the debate. first of all, how do you get your ecomy going? i'convinced the health care system is one of the reasons america is boming a second-class power i terms of our ability to compete with her countries. and, two,what do you do about the ct thatt's a scandal that a six of our population has no health insunce? you fithose tw

howard dean and dr. bill frist, both doctors, both politicians. >> if you're not going to have a public option, don't pretend you're doing health care reform. you know, that's what presidents oaf both parties like to do, they like to sign a bill and they've had a big victory. it isn't going to do anything. do the insurance reform, take all the money out of it and call it a day. >> i think it is fiscal suicide for the unitit states of america to pass a bill that all of a sudden says we're going to have $1.6 trillion into a system now that is broken without doing anything to control the cost over time. and i think that's these bills are. i'm for reform. i think a bill will pass, should pass. and i think it needs to do the good things that we've talked about, value driven outcomes based system. >> rose: but shouldn't have a public option. >> but consumer driven with markets to bend the cost curve instead of the government squeezing from above. >> rose: napolitano and health care next. captioning sponsored b

. >> we'll have howard dean can make up for you in three hours. the ones that don't like you, they write in about our contributor. he's a real lightning rod. >> it depends. it's polarizing. >> it is. and it's getting more polarizing. this is a classic story that rich democrats are starting. >> in the journal this morning points out -- >> they may have a few constituents. i remember what i was thinking, how much better is it that the government is -- what company would want government help at this point? goldman sachs had it for a little while and took it along with jpmorgan because the government said we don't want a stigma with the ones that are taking it. now they're thrown into the lot with the rest of them. they've got all this debt that the fdic insured debt. they're not out from under it by paying back the t.a.r.p. everything that goldman or jpmorgan being second guessed. the perception is that we bailed them out. they should be doing this stuff. >> you've got bankers in the midwest saying, we didn't take t.a.r.p. funds. come to us. that's w

howard dean, i won't mince words. i will put my screen up right now this. whole issue seemed to boil down to let's cover the 44 million people. we know that number is up more complex than that. 46.5 million uninsured and we will reveal when you take out people who -- people el vibl for medicaid on medicate right now. another 12 million and 20 million at two times the poverty level. we are not going to touch that with a 50-foot pole, but the real uninsured are around nine million. i know the number is debatable, but what isn't debatable is that the 44 million number that gets thrown around, it really can't be the heart of the issue, can it? >> it's not. they believe the number is $60 million. let's leave the debate and the numbers alone. this is not a debate about the uninsure and giving americans more choices because they fail to control cost. this is the economy in america. canada has a system that is not paid for by business. what we need is give americans a choice between the skpbl the private system and that's the trust of the reform bill before congres

i have in front of me howard dean's "prescription for real health care reform, how we can achieve affordable medical care" i suspect some of the ideas in books you have just heard. >> and it's in english. >> rose: thank you for joining us. see you next time. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

i'm governor howard dean. keith olbermann has the night off. sure, you can call it health care reform, but if it doesn't provide more americans with the insurance they need or fix what's fundamentally broken about the system we currently have, is it really actual health care reform? our fifth story on the "countdown," what, if anything, will be left in the watered-down so-called compromised bill that is now being associated by the senate finance committee? president obama took questions at a virtual town hall hosted by the aarp, the lobbying group that represents older americans. at least twice the president reaffirmed his desire for a public option in the final bill. 72% of americans, including 50% of republicans, say they want that choice. the congressional budget office has weighed in with some news about the public option with its assessment that the government-run option will not force out private insurers. house majority leader steny hoyer trumpeted the report, which contradicted a chief republican. and they said there would not be a vote

i'm governor howard dean. and a quick reminder, in minutes you will find me on the world wide web talking with you about health care. go to progressivebookclub.com to join the conversation. i will see you back here tomorrow. >>> up next on msnbc, "the rachel maddow show." good evening, rachel. >> good evening, governor dean. you made it look very, very easy. thank you so much. great to see you. >> i don't know what you guys get paid, but you more than earn your money. >> thanks, gov. we will see you tomorrow. >> yep. >>> and thank you for at home for staying with us the next hour. today a new conspiracy theory got its wing. the president of the united states trying to talk about health care reform today but instead having to respond personally to a plot that is not quite the protocols of the elders of zion but it's pretty close. >>> also tonight, we have the confluence of birtherism with c street and the family. jeff charlotte will be here. >>> plus, we have news from cuba, we have news from iraq. and we have

howard dean was out there doing things. it was assumed that hillary was the next.reta: from an ideology point of view, who do you think is the smartest or best candidate in your mind now? >> well, i don't want to answer that. i am looking right now at who can win and i can look at who excited crowds. the state-run media and the democratic party will go a long way of telling us who they are most afraid of. i don't think they are afraid of mike huckabee because they never talk about them, they are not afraid of mitt romney, low ilalthough if he runs again they will go after his religion. they are trying to destroy a sarah palin. if they are not worried about sarah palin, why do this? -- they are not afraid of mitt romney, although if he runs again they will go after his religion. it is not hard to understand why, sarah palin had the largest crowds, the most enthusiasm, people were fired up. in some cases, even more than obama rallies. the obama rally is, they were just showing of to be part of the story. sarah palin was excited people on substance. greta: she quit. >

in the waiting room, former vermont governor, howard dean.majority leader, senator bill frist. cbs care mark ceo tom ryan. senator judd gregg. the president of the federation of american hospitals and former health and human services secretary donna shalala. how an overhaul of america's health care system affects everything from company costs to a trip to the emergency room. who's paying for it? and what about consumer protection? these questions and more as our special "squawk box" summit, america's health care crisis begins now. >>> good wednesday morning. welcome back to "squawk" on cnbc. i'm carl quintanilla along with joe kernen and becky quick. europe's been doing pretty well on the back of some good solid corporate earnings from the likes of volkswagen and royal dush shell. some stories we're following, dow component travelers, $1.25  share was below estimates. the company upped the estimate for the fiscal year. its number is still below the street estimate. shares of astrazeneca, earning $1.64. the company raised its full year guidan

i'm governor howard dean for keith olbermann. thanks for watching. >>> thank you for staying with us for the next hour. the strangest politics story of the day is news that a car bomb in new orleans has apparently targeted the campaign advisor to the porn star who is running for senate against david vitter. hands down that is the weirdest politics story of the day. hands down the most important politics story of the day is the president trying for health care reform against a barrage of truly odd conspiracy theories and a barrage of attacks against him all based on race. this is supposed to be the slow news days part of the year. yeah right. lots coming up this hour. >>> we begin with the confluence of wacky new conspiracy theories in u.s. politics and wacky old special interest driven d.c. tactics. in 1993 the last time a newly elected democratic president was pursuing health care reform two of his most formidible foes were harry and louise, a fictional middle aged couple sitting at a kitchen table talking smack about how danger

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guest former dnc chairman howard dean on health care reform.p it right here where wall street meets main street. have a great week, everybody. i'll see you again next weekend. ♪ >> tim: today's guest is the greatest third baseman ever to play in the major leagues. and in his 18th season with the philadelphia phillies he was a the-time most valuable player, eight-time home run champion, a 12-time all star, a ten-time gold glove winner and the list goes on and on and on. his book is clearing the bases, now, stay with me on this one. clearing the bases, and a hall of famer's search for the soul of baseball. i welcome mike schmidt. >> thank you, timmy. i had problem with those words, sham. >> tim: i have not read the book, but i understand it's very clear. some great lines about george brett, joe morgan, pete rose, all touting the book saying it's a must-read which is more than just blurbs on the book. i'm anxious to read it. >> especially pete, you know? for pete to read a book is tough. >> tim: i was going to wait until the third or fourth segmen

howard dean jr. -- junior? no. just dr. howard dean. and a look at the stories that politico is working on. >> keep that title. junior, iii, dr. >> you're watching "morning joe." >> -- we would defend the constitution and we have, though outside special interest groups, they still just don't get it. hollywood needs to know we eat, therefore we hunt. >>> oh, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, the governor of alaska will be stepping down in two days. sarah palin stepping down in -- two days. unless of course she decides to leave early. but she's leaving this weekend and all week long she's been packing up her stuff and got everything loaded up and ready to take off and pull out of the governor's mansion. and, oh, i think we have a photograph of -- here she is right there. everything -- got it all loaded up. >> here with us now with the politico playbook, the chief political correspondent for politico, mike alan. good morning, mike. >> happy monday, willie. congratulations on "way too early". >> isn't it something? wow. >> keep your phone o

>> i am not compang sarah lin to howard dean personally politicallut just as i lates to the party, just like howard dean could just excite the base -- rember in 2003, he came to york, and he gave this remarkable speech. i think itas in bryantpark. the summer before e campaign. thousands andousands of peopleame out. heenerated the base on the left like nobod d sarah lin does thaton the right. can she translate th into a victory in a republica primary? this morning i am saying i don't think so. >>uthe can be a hell cheerleader. >> and my ther lovesher. ifhe says toote for romney, orwho eve she could be a powerfulvoice. especially if she had a big mega phone in primetime everynight. >> i feel liou know somethin >> i don't. >> in saying that since "morng joe" this morn i have to sense that joe knows a whole lot mo than -- >> let's go up to alaskahis morning. and this reporter has covered sarah palin. is your sense, michael, eith the politics of alaska became more tuble than what she wanted to dal with, or that ka on the flip sde didn't want to deal with sarah palin in her obsession with the

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howard dean took us to a 50- state strategy.hink it will be good for us on the policy side, and if we do, it will also have great benefits for all our candidates. i would encourage all of you as you go back to communities and colleges, engage with organizing for america where you are. organizing for america is doing events and campuses and town of all over the country every weekend. there will be a chapter where you are. get engaged in it. make social change through grass-roots policies. the third goal is the goal of every dnc share, work with the state parties to make them strong. at the end of the day, we will not be measured by how well things are doing inside the dnc office. it will be held strong the 50 state parties are. we are doing it in a collaborative way, working in tandem with the state parties, investing dollars, sharing best practices. that is the third week. that is what the dnc does, presidential success, a grassroots politics, state party policies. let me talk to you about the thing we are most focused on right

let's bring in former vermont governor, howard dean and steven moore from the "wall street journal." howard, let me ask you. it's hard to see how making energy more expensive right now is the right thing to do. what do you think? >> we have been living for a long time without the full cost of energy being in in anything we've done, and i think it's the right thing to do. and if you look at who pays the burden, it's the folks who can afford to pay the burden. if you analyze it by quinn tile, people at the bottom are paying $40 a year, i think most people would pay happy to pay $40 a year to have less asthma attacks for their kids. >> steve, i have several problems with what howard just said. i think everybody is going to be paying more, right? >> a lot more. >> and we have been underpaying in the past. i don't know if anyone felt like they were underpaying last summer. >> shame on the democrats who voted for this bill in the house. i'm still astounded you add 218 votes to pass a job killer. no question. howard, i've known you for a long time, you've cared about working class people, un

igor for health care research and co-author of howard dean's book "prescription, the real health care reform" and sally pipes, pacific research institute president and ceo, and the author of the top ten myths of american health care, a citizen's guide. igor,kick us off, is it going to happen, is it going to get passed before the end of the year? >> as john pointed out, it's not a major setback. the president has committed himself to reform, he said yesterday at a press conference that reform has to happen. i think when members go back to their districts over the august recess, they'll realize that many of their constituents are losing health insurance. we know 14,000 americans lose insurance every day. that means between the recess, between august and labor day, we know that about half a million americans will go uninsured. i think that's pressure that lawmakers will see when they're visiting their districts and they'll hear that message and they'll come back and get something done by the end of the year. >> igor, they are losing health insurance but they're also losing confidence in

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from new york i'm howard dean. keith olbermann has the night off. if you don't like what we already know about the health care bill that's being worked out behind closed doors by the senate finance committee, consider this. its final deal could be even worse. our fifth story on the "countdown", some democrats say they fear the committee will take away health insurance from the 11 million children who already have it just to keep republicans happy. first, the public option and now schip. dare we ask what's next? at least things appear to be going much better in the house where most of the blue dog democrats on the energy and commerce committee say they've reached an agreement with the leadership and the white house. the deal leaves intact almost everything that both sides wanted. but in the senate, democrats like jay rockefeller say they're unhappy about the concessions democrats are making to keep a few republicans onboard. senator rockefeller told "the new york times" that schip could be on the table. the president's campaign to reform health care

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>> hi, i am governor howard dean. in this summer i am reading the biography of thomas tillman, the first governor at the same ever on which did not join the union until the revolution was over and it is a fascinating look not just about a small state and as governess but about the revolution as a whole. told of the eyes of a say that wasn't sure it would be a state. >> to see more program information visit our web site at booktv.org. >> up next author and historian at john ferling joins booktv for air three our live in-depth interview from mount vernon. he will take your calls. >> host: the next three hours is your chance to take part in the discussion with author and historian john ferling. join us as in step the welcomes the author of 10 books including almost a miracle: the american victory in the war of independence, a leap in the dark: the struggle to create american republic, and adams vs. jefferson: it's a multiple selection of a 200. his latest book is the ascent of george washington: the hidden political geni

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a month after the presidential election i wrote him a letter, i said howard dean has announced he is ot going to run for dnc chair. howard is probably the most successful dnc chairman in history if you look at who is in office when he came in, who is in office when he left four years later at every level set of federal across the country, to use it shoes to fill and here's a person who will pick a person to do that job. i made an extremely persuasive case about this person than the president has david platts, 10 days later and said that's a good person, but the presence that you have to do this job. [laughter] so i was not at all persuasive and the save and to do this job and i said but i am governor, is a challenging time to the governor and i wrestling in the last year of the single for your term i got plenty to do of the president reached out and really shares what it was thought he wanted to see the dnc do. i have not been a washington die, not been involved in national politics, i've been deeply involved in state politics and the president's phrase, but as i heard the this and he

we have former governor howard dean and democratic congressman robert andrews to spice up the healthe. also, the nationsbanking giants checking in with quarterly results. how are they performingperformi? we'll hand out grades. and it's july 20th. that means for us the summer is almost over. >> it never got warm. >> i'm not willing -- it's mid-summer, july 4th a couple of weeks ago. august is coming. retailers are bracing for the worst, as we are. find out how much consumers plan to cut back before that first day of school. we have another giant week for earnings central. "squawk box" will start at the top of the hour. you people love him because he's won five. lee westwood, you tried to feel for him too. tried to make the birdie and three-putted and didn't make the playoffs. >> i know, that was tough. joe, we're going to leave it there. i'll leave you with my private thoughts about the golf as well. that's what's coming up. >> all right. we've still got plenty on this show. let's look at the u.s. trading day with ed lice, a partner of atlantic equities. i'm not going to talk golf wit

we're talking about howard dean, doon donna shalelay, they're all joining us today.e insiders of cvs, walgreens, plus the pharma industry's leader, willie tossen. we're talking about patients and doctors on the front lines, what they're hoping for, what they worry about. we're going to get to all of it today. of course, there is wall street's daily business not to be forgotten here. early components, travelers and exxon mobil. we get a handful of other issues this morning, we're talking about international paper, dow chemical. there's a lot of things happening today. we will not miss any of it. ross, squawk is coming up at the top of the hour. would you do a favor for me? >> yep. >> would you pass a message on to bertha for me? >> yeah, okay. what's the song? ♪ it's a small world after all it's a small world after all ♪ don't get it stuck in your head in the meantime. but i just looked at the lyrics, and i'm going to have them all for her ♪ it's a world of laughter a world of cheer ♪ >> she's so nice, so nice, so evil. unbelievable. thank you very much for that, beck

. >> howard dean?also a physician. >> he's got his book flagged here. >> so the question -- >> he does have your book flagged here. held it up with stickers right here. first of all, what about this issue that it can't be health reform without tort reform? >> you know, the truth is that tort reform does make some difference. but i think what really makes a difference is a changing of the financing of health care reform. and far be it for me to defend the ama. i've never been a member. if they did come out in favor of congressman waxman's bill which i thought was terrific, a move back towards the center. with respect to sermo an online poll is no more representative than ama. >> perhaps i'll disrupt you for just is a second. last week you talked about at length what is so interesting in the communities, you pointed out that these communities, i think you said the dirty secret is they can put politics out of business. you gave the example of facebook, twitter, that they are creating real truth. for you t

in terms of carrying the water for the party, i've seen howard dean making as many appearances -- the former dn chair -- on television as the incoming dnc chairman is, but i think that's a matter of they have a sort of a wink and a nod and a gentleman's agreement. you do the "meet the press" until i get closer to end date, the end game. >> governor kaine really feels that he can handle both because of technology today. he's using fax machines, e-mail and everything else. >> but how much of it is about perception, though? >> the point is that he's saying that he can do his job, his leadership in the dnc is not interfering with his gub tour natural policies. >> how could it not, jerry? >> excuse me. >> how could it not? >> excuse me. >> go ahead. >> he's saying it does not interfere. >> he's saying that. >> yeah. what do you say? >> he feels it does not interfere with the job as governor. >> are we buying that? >> well, now, that's questionable. there's those in virginia who don't buy it. there are those in virginia who say, well, i don't see anything that's so wrong about it. the bigge

we have howard dean. we have ariana huffington.. we have both sides. we talk these things over.ou don't need to hyperventil e hyperventilate. you don't need to change the channel. it's just someone talking, right? it's not the end of the world. would he given the president a chance. we want him to do well. but steve may say something, just don't write in. please, don't whine and snivle -- >> go to squawk@cnbc. >> with that caveat and disclaimer, in the journal it says jason owes an apology to michael boskin who wrote president barack obama would raise income taxes. mr. fuhrman was in the obama campaign and said it was wrong.. now if you add in what rangel is proposal and everything else, we're well above 60 if. >> if you live in a stated like new york it probably goes above that. >> how high do you think we'll go, given the kind of programs that we're considering? >> i don't think it's going to go that high. i think already now they're getting push back from the voters who are recognizing. here we're doing this massive spending. we haven't touched titlement reforms. where is thi

and joe trippi worked on two campai campaigns, john edwards in 2008, howard dean, 2004. ahead to the next six months. >> these are not my top three priorities. politically, the top three priorities the president of the united states has to focus in on is signing a health care bill. he's expended a significant amount of personal capital to get this far. he needs to show success. in february, he needs to show the american people now that he's done inheriting problems and dealing with problems of his own administration, he needs to show that we can cut the deficit and reduce spending. that's something that's very important to this country and comes up time and time again in poll after poll. with two wars and home grown terrorists being found on our own soil, he needs to continuously ensure americans he's grown into the role of being commander in chief. >> if you were to write a memo to the president, the top three priorities, what would top the list? >> jobs, jobs, jobs at the top. this can't be a jobless recovery. he has to focus on that. he's got to stop the spending and

. >> it's like when we have howard dean on. >> in washington today, the commodity futures trading commission holding the first of three hearings to consider whether to limit holdings of energy and agricultural contracts. and whether traders should be allowed to exceed position limbs. the agency is investigating whether the biggest players distort the markets role of price setting when they amass these huge positions. the hearing fits into the obama administration's attempts to calm the volatile commodity markets. bart chilton will have a preview at 7:10 eastern time. and the cftc plans to issue a report to show that speculators did play a significant role in driving the wild swings in oil prices. that's a reversal of an earlier position the agency took which chilton says was now based on flawed data. >> one was the bush administration saying no speculators. the obama administration says there are speculators in london, the financial services authority, the biggest one, they say no evidence behind the oil price swings. it depends on who is looking, i guess. it's a bizarre -- commodities move

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