you are on with howard dean. >> caller: good morning, governor dean. >> guest: good morning. >> caller: and good morning c-span. my wife and i are registered republican, and never voted straight ticket and look at the best candidate, but looking at the democratic party that's been in power since 2006 and looking at it today, my wife and i are a lot worse off than we were back then. we have lost money, this last contract i went through with a corporation i work with starting the first of the year loses $4,000 a year paying for more medical because the medical system's changed. the democrats, president obama, was elected in 2008, and his first priority instead of getting people back to work and getting the economy straightened out was to get everybody to pay more for their medical, so that's the first thing i have to say, and the other one is journalism coverage of presidential races, i find is -- it swings way to one side or way to the other. president obama on the campaign trail, he talked about keeping the people together, bringing them together to work together, but yet then he gives

but howard dean is exactly right.his would have been tough for him. >> i'm going to take things way off track just for a second. because for those especially his weight obviously came into play into the conversation. and there was this really controversial piece that eugene robinson did on friday, michael kinsly, and a couple of them were mean, talking about his weight showing a lack of discipline. i'm sorry, if his decision yesterday doesn't say discipline with a capital "d," i don't know what does. and i actually wish he was in the race so he could shed light on the issue of obesity in america. i think he would've been the best person for that. and that to me is a big loss. i think obviously his weight probably is part of the decision. not because he's afraid of anybody, because it's a health issue. and he should come back stronger and better later. having said that, there were some really low blows before he even announced anything about whether or not this man was disciplined. >> well, i agree with you. it's ridic

the presidential debate tonight but, howard dean, let me start with you.3 as an anti-war candidate. that's what you were painted in the media as. afghanistan now. this is another serious development. systematic abuse over half of the prisoners tortured in the most explicit -- >> and some children. >> this is why we don't belong there anymore. and i actually supported this one from the time that bush sent people there. >> right. >> right through obama's surge. last summer i realized this is not winnable. we have no partner over there of any serious means and this is the kind of stuff that's going to happen. i think we need an orderly withdrawal and staying until 2014 is a mistake. >> we do need an orderly withdrawal. here's the catch, though, richard. we talked about 2014. that date is going to move, too. because the generals think they need to stay there until 2020. they all do. >> we've already been there ten years. >> and 2030 as long as afghanistan remains afghanistan so long as pakistan provides a sanctuary to the taliban. this is not going to succeed.

the president should incorporate howard dean's 50-state strategy. i'm all about it. president obama should visit every state and show people this number. show americans that 63% of republicans are in favor of providing federal money to state governments to hire teachers and first responders. president obama needs to shout about the republicans ignoring their own voters. the president needs to stay on the bus and follow this road map. >> we're going to california and texas and new york and we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan. and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! yea! >> don't forget, ohio, where senate bill 5, the vote coming up on november 8th. mr. president, you need to be there in my opinion. vice president biden isn't shy about campaigning. he hammered the republicans in pennsylvania on tuesday. >> people say we're campaigning. we sure in heck are campaigning. we are campaigning to change this environment. [ applause ] >> change this environment. >> the vice president is president obama's best weapon

joining me now, former dnc chairman and cnbc contributor howard dean.h for joining me tonight, governor. >> lawrence, thanks for having me on. >> things look awfully good for the president now among democrats and i'm one who never really felt that he had a problem with his democratic base. what should the president be doing now in trying to focus that base on how they can make some kind of legislative progress on a jobs bill? >> well, i think there's two reasons things are great for the president right now. in his base. the first is that the president really has had a total change of tactics. since the jobs speech. he's been out there giving talks like he just gave, just showed on the show. he's in fighting form. he's ready to take on the republicans. and he really is going to be a fighter which i think most the democrats believe you have to be. the second is, we're now coming into focus now, what the opposition looks like. there's nothing better than focusing the mind of a democrat who's a little bit disenchanted than thinking about rick perry or someb

john kerry overdoing howard dean thinking he would be a tougher candidate against president bush. >> and i think some of the volatility in the primary is contributing to something we're not seeing, which is when the field will clear out. >> nobody is dropping out. >> nobody's quitting even though we know they cannot compete. there's only three or four of them on the stage who will have the financial resources to actually compete. gwen: but if you're rick santorum, a couple of weeks ago, you were sitting in the men's room talking to herman cain and were complaining that no one invited you to debate. now cain is getting his moment. why drop out if you're rick santorum? >> i think that's what's driving this phenomena in this cycle. bachmann had her moment, perry had a moment. now cain has a moment. if you're rick santorum, you think, hey, i'm next. >> or jon huntsman. everybody can look and say there may be a path for me if things break the right way. gwen: i have to ask, where is michele bachmann now. she was a big deal a minute ago. >> she was and she is now, in our post-abc poll, she

>> the front page, actually this is howard dean's idea. imes" has a story about ibm having a female ceo. that's not really the story. the story is, howard, what an extraordinary job -- we all talk about steve jobs. but what has happened at ibm over the past 20 years -- >> it's incredible. >> the recreation. you talk about an american success story, it's stunning what they've done. >> unbelievable. and if you look at their stock price over the last 20 years, it is extraordinary what they've done quietly and steadily. they've turned themselves from a manufacturing company to a service company. and over the years, they've always had multiple lines of business. and they made a decision, i'm going to say, maybe 15 or more years ago that they were going to get out of the desk top computer business, which at the time i thought, oh, my lord. >> everybody was horrified. >> and vermont, we have a big stake in this. we have a plant there that makes a few of their chips. they make such an advance product, they keep that in-house. but it's one of the gr

tonight an exclusive interview with howard dean on rark airaq l that it cost this nation. republicans blocked jobs for america again. >> rome is burning. p. >> you're right, so why not put out the fire. republicans against the middle class and willard's newest flip-flop. >> as governor, i worked closely with the nra. i don't see eye to eye with the nra. >> with acrobat it ticks like these, he should be in the olympics. poll tick nation starts right now. >>> tonight's lead. the war in iraq will soon be over. president obama said today american troopses will complete a total withdrawal by the end of the year. it's a war that has taken a terrible toll on this country. there are still 39,000 u.s. troops serving in iraq to date. over 4400 have lost their lives and over 32,000 have been wounded. all at a cost of more than $712 billion to american taxpayers. it's a war that many of us warned would be a horrible tragic mistake. a war that was packaged and sold to the american people with lies and fear. >> we don't want the smoking gun to an mushroom cloud. >> the czechs alleged th

the president is out there doing his best howard dean impersonation. he's completely out of touch. >> only in a party where corporations are people and where the wealthiest are continuously defended today this make sense. senator, the president's not preposterous. you are. >>> joining me now is senator sherrod brown, democrat from ohio. he's also a member on the committee for veterans affairs. >> good to be with you, al. thank you. >> what will it take to get the first portion of the president's jobs bill passed? >> it's going to take a lot of pressure from the public. it will take your show and others putting pressure on republicans. this is such a clear case. it's do we put police, fire and teachers back to work, and pay for it with the one half of 1% tax on people all right making a million a year, but above that, and it's going to take a lot of pressure. i encourage people to go to my website, sche sherrodbrown.com, sign my letter, putting people back to work, pay for it in a fairway, people making $20,000 a week, those are the only people that wil

i think rick perry is going to have a chance to recover now. >> former vermont governor howard dean.nk you very much for joining me tonight. >> thanks for having me on. >>> coming up, herman cain's 9-9-9 plan is not just a tax plan. it is a plan to abolish medicare. it's a plan to abolish social security. and it's not a secret plan. it's written right there in herman cain's own campaign literature. >>> and in the "rewrite" tonight, warren buffett's response to the congressman who asked buffett to release his tax return. the republican congressman, big surprise, does not outsmart warren buffett. aren't you getti little industrial? okay, there's enough energy right here in america. yeah, over 100 years worth. okay, so you mean you just ignore the environment. actually, it's cleaner. and, it provides jobs. and it helps our economy. okay, i'm listening. [announcer] at conoco phillips we're helping power america's economy with cleaner affordable natural gas... more jobs, less emissions, a good answer for everyone. so, by reducing the impact of production... and protecting our land and wat

>>host: thank you for holding your on the line with howard dean. >> caller: good morning. i are both registered republicans would never vote straight ticket and always look at the best candidate but looking at the democratic party that has been in power since 2006 and looking at it today we are a lot worse off than we were back then. we have lost money, the last contract with the corporation that i work with starting the first of the year we will lose $4,000 per year for medical. obama was elected in 2008 the first priority is dead of getting people back to work was to get everybody to pay more for their medical. that is the first thing. the other is journalism it swings way 21 side or the other. president obama on the campaign trail says bring them together and then as gives a speech to defeat the republican in the me. people need to pay attention >>host: governor? >>guest: and the premium increase has nothing to do with health care reform that does not go into effect until 2014. i would disagree but that problem is a serious 1/2 although there are good things would has n

howard dean? guest: i do not know much about the race. i think it will be a great race. would be happy to take the other side of that bet. host: fairfax, virginia. rick is a republican. go ahead. caller: last year, if 20% of that is wasted, that's $1 trillion. we also had about $2.5 trillion of indirect cost by government for regulatory tax system and excessive legal system costs. there's probably $1 trillion of waste there. $2 trillion of waste in government-related costs each year, and that's more of the accumulated wealth of the bottom 50% of the population. after just a year and half, it's more than that thanplus -- more than that group plus the top 400 richest people in the country. host: what is your point? caller: we are wasting more and government-related cost in 1.5 years than the accumulated wealth than the bottom people plus the top 400 richest people. guest: a lot of people think the federal government waste money, but the truth is, there are reasons for every program. that's why they have not been cut. that's a bipartisan problem, not just a partisan problem

john kerry in the 2004 democratic race overtook howard dean in large part, i think, because people felt in the end he would be a tougher general election candidate against president bush. >> and i think that some of the volatility in that primary is contributing to something we're not seeing, which we typically do around the third quarter fund-raising figures, and that's when the field will clear out. gwen: nobody's dropping out. >> nobody's quitting even though we know they cannot compete. there's only maybe three or four of them on the stage who will have the financial resources to actually compete. gwen: but if you're rick santorum, a couple of weeks ago, you were sitting in the men's room talking to herman cain, both complaining that no one called on you in the debates. now herman cain is getting his moment. why drop out if you're rick santorum? >> i think that's exactly what's driving the phenomena in this cycle. and that is that bachmann had her moment, perry had a moment, now cain has a moment. if you're rick santorum, think, hey, i'm next. >> or gingrich or jon huntsman. look an

self-identified conservatives for every liberal in this country and the president is out there doing his best howard dean impersonation. he's completely out of touch. >> meanwhile, the rally on capitol hill, vice president joe biden reiterated his claims that public safety could be at risk. this is drawing some fire. he says if the jobs bill is not passed. >> police departments, as i said in some cases literally cut in half like camden, new jersey, and flint, michigan, in many cities, the result has been that it's not unique murder rates are up, robberies are up, rapes are up. consequences of these losses are real and they're now. but the interesting thing is why i said this is simple and say to the press this is very, very simple, man. there's a solution. we can do something about it right now. it's not rocket science. >> in response to the vice president, the republican national committee put out a statement that read to link well-justified bipartisan opposition to the president's latest stimulus proposal to violent crime is intellectually dishonest and reeks of the kind of gutter politics the obama ad

joe trippi managed howard dean's presidential campaign, he's a fox news contributor and a man who knowsme of -- how some of these political attacks can sting. you say it's pretty obvious what rick perry is about to do. lay it out for us. >> well, jon, look, it looks to me like heath sort of -- look, i'm going to run for president, i'm going to try to win it, but he's saying and signaling to romney that the i can't have the nomination, i guarantee you one thing, you're not going to either. this happens a lot in presidential politics. dick gephardt did it to howard dean, my boss, in 2004 where he started attacking us in debates, started running negative ad after negative ad destroying and really debilitating the dean campaign in iowa while what happened then was john kerry and john edwards, two candidates that stayed out of the fray, got first and second place in iowa. and i think perry's embarking on that kind of strategy right now. he's going to do that. jon: what about the old phrase, and i've always thought it applied in politics as well, what doesn't kill me, makes me stronger. >> i

so many of these people like -- you look back at the great howard dean phenomenon where he was just at the peak and always going to depend on what part of the trajectory that are at. but certainly two candidates have the money to slog it through a long campaign season. and those two candidates are mitt romney and rick perry. gwen: we have barely talked about mitt romney which tells you something. because he's the putative frontrunner. and some people believe -- a lot of experts believe he's going to end up being the nominee. but he's got really soft numbers. i mean, he's never got -- risen very high. and he seems stuck there. >> usually at this point, there is a republican frontrunner who has -- cracked 40% in the polls. and he's still stuck in 20%. but i do think you saw a few things begin to kind of move his way. he still hasn't won the hearts of the republican base. but he's starting to pick up the endorsements of the republican establishment. a big one this week, the day before the debate, was new jersey gotch chris chris -- governor chris chris can i. a heartthrob -- >> he had thi

and civil society well you know there well you know women for howard dean and he's been trying to build nations around the world and can you give me one example where it works why would work in libya well you know there are places where it works and i'm not just talking about. if you look at places like east timor where frankly the australians took the lead it's slow it takes a long time people need to sort of dig in for a generation they need not to be seen is interfering they need to help you need to not do the kind of things like we've seen in haiti where a outside countries bail out every five years and leave another mess and i agree they're going to get it if there is nobody early twentieth century you know plenty of kids in the words doesn't work there are plenty of examples where doesn't work but there's no point being just sort of miserably pessimistic either you can look at the play well i mean his word why should be pessimistic there's so much oil there go ahead ted i mean it's worth fighting hard because they are. it's it's well it's hard to go run being pessimistic you're us

john kerry in the 2004 democratic race overtook howard dean in large part, i think, because people felt in the end he would be a tougher general election candidate against president bush. >> and i think that some of the volatility in that primary is contributing to something we're not seeing, which we typically do around the third quarter fund-raising figures, and that's when the field will clear out. gwen: nobody's dropping out. >> nobody's quitting even though we know they cannot compete. there's only maybe three or four of them on the stage who will have the financial resources to actually compete. gwen: but if you're rick santorum, a couple of weeks ago, you were sitting in the men's room talking to herman cain, both complaining that no one called on you in the debates. now herman cain is getting his moment. why drop out if you're rick santorum? >> i think that's exactly what's driving the phenomena in this cycle. and that is that bachmann had her moment, perry had a moment, now cain has a moment. if you're rick santorum, think, hey, i'm next. >> or gingrich or jon huntsman. look an

what extent do you think it your trainings and your efforts over the years all the way back to the howard dean campaign which is would be if they grew out of might be part. of and i'm not asking if they are so in the back here but you know but how is this. i see i see a connection between that and what's going on right now frankly i mean just let your most rewarding experiences jointness talking to people who have taken positions at a party and then work on sometimes very arcane rules and procedures that end up opening up the party's indorsement process to more people and not just incumbents you know my best days are or are helping or when we find out that a person who is running for city council for the first time. wins an election or when we get pieces of legislation passed and towns because that's how things happen they don't start out of washington they start because states and towns and cities are stepping up to the plate we've been involved in this hydro fracking issue in pennsylvania. dozens of towns all over the state are passing resolutions against it right now and even though the sta

-- and the president is doing his best howard dean impersonation? guest: i am flattered. that's what the president will have to do to win the election. i the president will win. god bless him for taking my name in vain. i work part time now for a law firm in washington although i do not lobby. i am on the board of a great democracy-building group. i am going around the world trying to figure out how to help people become more democratic in some countries. a long other list. i am interested in the charter school i work with that run by the american federation of teachers especially third grade education. a lot of stuff we do is a lost cause because we don't do anything about kids coming into the system. there's a long other list as well. caller: any practice of medicine -- host: any practice of medicine? guest: no, that would be malpractice. host: steve is on -- on the line. caller: my wife and i are registered republicans, but we have never voted straight ticket. t things today, we are worse off. we have lost money. we will lose $4,000 per year payi

is the president who often said i based obama-care on romney-care and secondly, our good friend howard dean who repeatedly says that it's very, very similar. i don't think romney has gotten through that yet. i think he has a long, hard battle here on that issue. i think he's a good candidate. he has to defend himself. if he can't, it's not just going to be christie's endorsement that's going to make any difference. >> let's take a look at what the polls are in the first two states they have to go to. iowa, romney is at 23%. herman cain 20%. ron paul 11% rick perry, way, way, way down at 10%. michele bachmann 10%. ed rollins, when you look at that, romney is in the lead without having made any effort in iowa. rick perry has to win iowa, doesn't he? he's down at half, less than half of romney's support. >> all but romney have to win iowa. all those candidates on that list if they want to continue on. it's sort of like ncaa, you know, final 66 or 64, whatever it is. you can't lose. that's the first -- i'll say this about romney. romney, and obviously i did huckabee last time, it was a very com

in 2003, the democratic primary at this point was dominated by howard dean and clark.ocrats settled on different candidates. we usually have in the process, we behaved and it has been like college flings from one romance to another. >> 59 least now we are falling in love with or having crushes on people who are on the field running. this is healthier than going from paul ryan to chris crist to others who are not running. >> what is the crush? in the case of herman cain, 999 has been basically dismissed by virtually every movement we now and i don't know that this is just a republican thing, but now politics and experience is held in such low regard, we are willing to risk it all on someone whose entire body of experience is in the public sector. what it said to me about the low regard with which we hold government experience. we were choosing between john mccain who had a lifetime of government service. >> this guy serves pizza. >> he has been running companies which is admirable. >> it's not the real truth. the republican party doesn't real feel them falling in love w

we will be going to nevada, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, florida and now i feel like howard dean, luntzglobal.com. sign up. >> all of those dials and focus groups will be here on "hannity." thanks. >> thank you. >> coming up, the president's jobs bill went down in flames. republicans are proposing one of their own. can it pass the senate? plus, it's time for this week's installment of media mash. the take on the obama mania media's latest attempts to slant media's latest attempts to slant your ♪ ...there are no sick days. ♪ vicks dayquil. defeats 5 cold & flu symptoms. [ snoring ] [ indistinct talking on tv ] [ snoring ] [ male announcer ] vicks nyquil cold and flu. the nighttime sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep you ever got with a cold...medicine. ♪ my sunglasses. people say i'm forgetful. ( car honking ) maybe that's why we go to so many memorable places. the subaru outback. love the road you're on. >> republicans not only voted down the president's so-called jobs bill last week of but three g.o.p. senators are bruceing a plan of their own, john mccain a

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. >> here with reaction are the former campaign manager to howard dean, joseph and republican strategisth, matt. joe let me start with you. it's the hypocrisy, here is a president that said no way shape or form are lobbyists going to have an influence. now, we learn from the "new york times" so many of the big money supporters are tied to lobbyists. he is going saying, lobbying here and he says it with a straight face. >> first of all the administration has done the most to shut down the revolving door. i don't think they have done enough but they have done more than anybody else has. they don't accept anything from any registered lobbyist which is a technicality that i do agree is ridiculous to say these 15 are not. i wouldn't have done it. the goal is raising a billion dollars, do you really need $5 million raised by these people. i think it was a mistake for the campaign to do it. i think not just this campaign but all the presidential campaigns should put a ban on taking money from lobbyists. none of the republicans have done that. i think the president should have gone the extra mil

they can be used to pile on a front runner like in 2003 when howard dean was leading in the polls. >> i was the front runner is because i keep picking buck shots out of my rear end all the time. >> it can also be a turning point. just ask hillary clinton when she stumbled talking about driver's license for illegal immigrants. >> i certainly recognized why governor is trying to do it and we have failed. >> no, no, no. you said yes you thought it made sense to do it. >> no, i didn't, chris. >> primary debates can't necessarily make a campaign but they can break it. back in june, tim pola nrgs e balked when given the opportunity to back up a tax on mitt romney's health care plan. >> using the term obama care was a reflection of the president's comments that he deseened health care. >> that was seen as the beginning of the end for the former minnesota governor. a month plaiter after a third place finish. >> thank you for loving america. >> he dropped out. >> after rick perry bursts onto the scene in august a string of poor debate showings. >> was it before he was before the social program

is this like howard dean? remember that moment we had seen on tape? >> the scream. >> exactly.nd you have been questioning the issue and the influence here. what's your thought? >> there is a lot of fun. there was a side of pery that a lot of people had not seen. she loose like that a lot of times. perry came out of this box more uptight than he is used to being. the formalities of running for the presidency is certainly those who were telling they had to be more formal. really worked against him in the beginning. being looser and being more relaxed, i will help him in his debate performance. certainly there is a limit. you don't top the go to the point where people scratch their head wonder figure they are on something. the reality is for him to be himself and to be looser in his boots is probably better. >> let's take a listen. talking about being more easy and laid back. we have this new ad that is being released from perry. >> if you are looking for a slick politician and a guy with great teleprompter skills. we have that and he is destroying our economy. i'm a doer, and no