but finally, howard dean, how showed voters look, between now, here we are at the end of august, the first votes are not going to be cast, what, in ioa until early february. should voters look on this as a process where you know, it's good that a lot of candidains are stilhe race until the en. or that it does get a lo, at there are many viewer, as soon as posible. >> no, i don't think we should have as many fewer as soon as possiblement i think we should nowing proceal win which is exactly what is going on. i have enjoyed these de ate-- debates. i thought the last one was a little rugged in terms of the thway thapanel asked the questions and the candidates went after each other. the first three for m were just terrible. you know, there is a lot ofe people i hver seen in action that are on these debates. including-- who were both i think in the last debate. so i think this is a great system. i am looking forward to more.om i hopeof these candidates do make the criteria which are not goneg to change for thet month's debate. i encourage them to do that and work hard and bild their grass

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>> neil: howard dean didn't take back the white house.ade a safer pick and senator john kerry. they still lost in 2004. how should they play at this time? they seem to view joe biden as the more -- i wouldn't say centrist but more appealing to voters and more likely to beat donald trump than almost any of the other alternatives. just as they felt that way about john carrie in 2004. is that the just event? >> i think you're right and i have to say talking to moderate democrats, the ones that i know around town and the ones that i meet in the fox green room, they me they are very glad that biden is in the race and they are hoping he can moderate the discussion. i don't think he's been very successful on that so far as we've seen in the debates with lots of ideas about giving free health care to illegal immigrants, cutting off people's private insurance, open borders. he hasn't been very successful in changing the terms but he's the guy that looks like a moderate compared with everyone else. a relative moderate. he keeps talking about how gr

and president howard dean was on the phone for you talking about giant crowd size, but i agree what youee is enthusiasm, organization, it shows a campaign that is in high gear and to ignore it i think you do at your own peril. i want to introduce something new to the conversation, and i think it plays into everything we're talking about, the biden campaign moments ago released a new ad that's going up in iowa. we're told this is a big buy, multiweek buy, six figures in iowa, 60 seconds and the issue is health care, so listen to this. >> my son beau was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given only months to live. i can't fathom what would have happened if the insurance companies had said for the last six months of his life you're on your own. the fact of the matter is health care is personal to me. obamacare is personal to me. >> it seems to me there are a couple of things that are very important. number one, a big buy in iowa. and then the second thing is the subject, health care, that is of huge interest to me because that might be the issue he most wants to differentiate himself from

howard dean had it looked it looked like. jimmy carter was jimmy who. and this was in january.re speeding up this process now. but one thing that strikes me, nothing's moved since last june, and that's my question to everybody here. how come if anything can happen, nothing's happened except warren has moved up a bit. nothing's happened. >> i think it's interesting, chris, in the sense that biden has taken some blows and he still has a sizable lead, except for that one outlier monmouth poll over everybody else. i don't think that's insignificant. but as much as a nevada partisan as i am, i have to say of the john delaney is right in the way the presidential campaigns are covered, everything will crystallize in iowa, and then it will either be okay, it looks like everything is the same in the top three of the top three, or we'll be saying on the night of the iowa caucus, oh my god, candidate x, whether it's mayor pete or castro or someone we never thought could do it suddenly did well in iowa, then that momentum carries on to new hampshire and then back to the most important stat

the former head of the dnc, howard dean. thank you for being with us.elizabeth warren side by side. what does that mean? what will you watch for? >> it doesn't mean much right now. we still have months to go. there are candidates who didn't make it on this time that will make it on next time. we shouldn't get too excited this far out. but it is true. there are five or six candidates that are in the lead. and i expect one or two of the ones, perhaps even the ones that didn't get on the stage this time to make a run before we get done. >> in terms, though, of a confrontation of ideas at this point, you have elizabeth warren and joe biden who i think have been circleing each other in may ways in the last month. they'll be standing next to each other. it'll be hard to circle without making contact. >> that's true. i think you're going to see a difference in philosophy. joe is more classic democratic politician. and he's, you know, been in the senate for 40 years, really, if you include his time as vice president which is an officer of the senate as well. an

>> well, he's the front-runner right now but, you know, look at the time howard dean was a front-runneridn't win the cauc caucus. it's a long way to go. >> i'm john. how they handled the heat and how they slide. >> governor, do you have to do a slide like that to be president? >> apparently, so. >> my wife got a little bit competitive on that, jeff. >> reporter: so far no 2020 cap dates have arrived in helicopters as donald trump did four years ago. a moment he later used as a metaphor. >> to prepare for this debate i rode in the bumper cars at the state fair. >> reporter: as the full democratic bid. time is running short to make friends or supporters at the iowa caucuses. all of the democratic field will be coming here to the iowa state fair to make their case to iowa voters less than six months before the iowa caucuses. jeff zeleny, cnn, des moines. >>> authorities in indian controlled kashmire. in order to stifle protests over the move, the indian government has proposed downtown. now switching gears, may now be in danger after reversing the policy. the details on that after the brea

the last time democrats tried to unseat a republican president was back in '04 after howard dean, who was the strong player of the moment, his presidency y flatlined in this moment. >> we are on california, texas, new york, south dakota, oregon, washington, and michigan! and then we are going to washington, d.c., and take back the white house ewashington, d.c., and take back >> martha: the ended up choosing long time senator john kerry. the rest, they say, is history. president bush 23 became a two termer. will 2020 be a repeat of 2004? good to see you, thank you very much for being here this evenin evening. >> thank you for having me. >> martha: let's begin with that question. do you think, what you're looking at right now this early stage of the game, that democrats are heading in the '04 direction again? >> i do. it's eerie, isn't it, trump didn't win the popular election like george w. bush. he was widely despised, although they call trump aid from supremacist, they were calling bush a fascist. in 2003, '04, there was no viable opposition to bush. but the economy was going really

every other one, howard dean, bernie sanders, they all fall short unless they can across the racial divide and appeal more to african-american voters. she really needs -- unless she can expand her appeal, elizabeth warren needs kamala harris to recover. because the risk she faces is that even if she squeezes out bernie sanders and becomes the candidate of the white left, if joe biden is winning moderates and then black voters three to one. the math doesn't come close to adding up. if elizabeth warren cannot appeal to black voters better than her predecessors, she needs another african-american candidate to peel away some of those voters. >> right now winning the lion's share of african-american voters is joe biden. i want to switch gears from 2020 if i can. we heard from congresswoman tlaib and omar yesterday about being banned from their planned trip to israel. have a listen. i want to get your reaction. >> we cannot let trump and netanyahu succeed in hiding the cruel reality of the occupation from us. so i call on all of you to go. the occupation is real, barring members of congress from

howard dean was leading this back in the 2004 campaign.lary clinton was leading it in the 2008 campaign. so it certainly -- there's at least six more months. kate, another headline out of this poll, andrew yang and tom steyer. andrew yang has qualified for the september debate stage because he did reach the polling threshold. tom steyer is one poll away from meeting that on the threshold. he still needs to get some donors. so the debate stage in september could still be a little more crowded than some democrats had hoped. >> and let's be honest. a rainy day at the iowa state fair is still better than no day at the iowa state fair. great to see you. >> they still have pork chops here today. >> deal. thank you. >> coming up for us the impact of saturday's shooting in el paso has hit far beyond texas. latinos across the country are telling cnn if their fears in the wake of this tragic attack. at fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan to cover the essentials in retirement, as well as all the things you want to do. because when you're rea

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i remember howard dean back in 2003, early 2004. what does it look like with elizabeth warren?'s a huge contrast with what warren was showing, the people that were showing up to warren's events back in january in iowa, even in massachusetts. they were nothing like this. she's creating a movement bit by bit. she is. and it didn't start off this way, but it's growing. you know, will someone be able to take her down? will she lose her own momentum? that remains to be seen, but so far what's interesting about it, it wasn't like she shot up quickly. she had actually a very difficult, bumpy rollout in january, but she overcame that and steadily she's growing. not just in the polls, but in crowd size. >> mike, there is that morning consult poll out tonight, the biden camp is pointing to that one energetically? >> yes, they are. >> if you take the horse race number out of it. one thing they found was that elizabeth warren they found among democratic voters to be the most popular candidate, and popular in terms of the favorable rating. biden's negatives have risen. where the horse race

. >> i want to listen to what your former boss at the dnc howard dean said about this earlier today., no. >> if the voters can forgive donald trump being corrupt and feathering his own nest for money and they could certainly give joe biden a few laughs as a memory. trump has lowered the bar. the rules of the game have changed. >> this is a time when i would have a conversation with him after the fact to say here is the problem. it will matter to voters to -- to the point it starts to matter. there is a lot of this stuff that we follow very closely where i think it is nuance and people are maybe following it that closely. what you said though, the problem becomes when it is a pattern. and then people are asking themselves well did he forget, was he embellishing and in a general election i worry about is when you are going up against a man who lies prolifically all of the time, i would worry that it would take away one of our best arguments as democrats against trump. if we have to -- i if -- if i worry how i'm going to correct misstatements on our side it makes it harder then to make

i'm going back to when howard dean, i'm old enough to remember when donald trump was drawing support, and people told me it didn't matter. which is it. >> they're both right. it nae matters and it doesn't matters. elizabeth warren is going through a period like we saw with bernie sanders in 2017, lots of crowds and young people. there are a series of caveats. the poll is a small sample sides but it's going to get a lot of attention so it matters. second is elizabeth warren has not been seen as the front runner and has not really been attacked. we're going to have to see on the next debate stage how she defends the idea of abolishi ab private health insurance. that's an unpopular idea and hasn't been tested very much with her. enthusiasm matters particularly in the caucus states. in iowa that matters a lot. it matters a lot less in the primaries. the last thing is and i haven't seen the insides of the poll, warren's path through the nomination has to go through traditional democratic constituencies, particularly african-americans and noncollege educated whites and she doesn't in the pr

>> well, he's the front-runner right now, but at the time howard dean was the front-runner.usly didn't win the caucus. it's a long way to go yet. >> reporter: so a long way to go yet. that is certainly true, some six months or so until those iowa caucuses. but again if you're joe biden, you want to be in this position. nia, one thing we'll keep an eye on this afternoon as joe biden addresses the soap box crowd, giving a speech here to a variety of people, they're not just talking to democrats here. a lot of republicans are here at the iowa state fair as well. iowa was once a swing state. barack obama won it twice, in 2008 and 2012. donald trump carried it four years ago so that of course is the overriding picture here. which democrat are democrats going to nominate what could be competitive with donald trump in the general election in iowa. >> it's early, it's summer. jeff, thanks for that reporting. bring be back some cotton candy and maybe a candy apple or something. >> reporter: you got it. >>> we also want to note that andrew yang in that poll, he was at 2%, so that mean

howard dean, 2004, rand paul in 2012.even after a candidate gets the nomination, historically plenty of huge crowds have shown up for losing causes all the way up to election day. 1972, george mcgovern drew enthusiastic crowds including 25,000 people on election eve in long beach, california. the next day, he lost every state to richard nixon extend massachusetts and the district of columbia. proving the silent majority did exist. november 1, 1984, walter mondale and geraldine ferraro had 100,000 in the electoral district. reagan beat them. election day 1988, michael dukakis had 15,000 in philadelphia. poppy bush beat him by 7,000 votes and 317 electoral votes. october 2004 john kerry was joined by bill clinton on stage in philadelphia before as many as 100,000 people. but bush/cheney reveiled. 2008, after john mccain chose sarah palin they drew crowds but couldn't match obama's power. in bucks county, pennsylvania, didn't even win the state. so crowd size alone is not sufficient to win the white house. is it nevertheless

it reminds me of howard dean's sleepless summer about a decade ago.e got the enthusiasm of the warren crowd versus the pragmatism of the biden crowd. that's a core debate we're having within the democratic electorate right now. >> let's talk about the democrats. i love talking about democrats. i get the feeling that waesh is very strategic. she is not just a policy maefn. she is a strategic politician. as long as she says nice things about bernie, the bernie people are acceptable to going over to her as a likely winner. bernie has a little bit of problems. where she seems like she could be the future of the country. so she just has to say nice things. i agree with medicare for all. everything he says i like. so those people feel very comfortable come february 3rd in iowa and say i think i'll shift to the younger candidate. >> it's also bigger than that. i think that's exactly right. but if you look at the debate so far and the feedback, they don't like the fighting. they didn't seem to like what harris -- >> she is smart on two reasons? don't attack?

been filled by a long line of candidates going back to gene mccarthy in '68, to gary hart in '94, howard deanf them have won the nomination. all of them have kind of fallen short because they were unable to reach out beyond that starbucks ghetto if you want to call it that. and appeal to some of the other constituencies in the democratic party, in particular to african-american voters. and that is still a big challenge for her. biden is best among older and moderate whites and african-americans, at the moment. that has been more of what i have called in the past the beer track candidate. warren is more of the classic wine track candidate. and biden's problem is that in those first two states, iowa and new hampshire, heavily white, a lot of college-educated liberals. they don't play to his strengths. he's stronger as you go along into march and you get to some of those diverse states, particularly in the south. so we could see a very familiar kind of divide, and i think it is ultimately the onus remains on warren to show that for all of her strength, any place where there are a lot of white co

by the way, we need to remember the great idea, the 50 state strategy that howard dean talked about. everyone, don't we? we respect people by going to their communities and telling them we want to work with them and for them. we don't give up on anybody. party thatemocratic can win. but a democratic party that only seems to care about a few voters from one coast or the other, that cannot work anymore. it should never have been done and it can't work anymore. i will tell you something. people from iowa get it. they get how they have gotten a raw deal for 40 years. 40 years, working-class and middle-class people have been stuck in place. folks in iowa understand that, and they don't accept it. they need to know something can change. they also need to hear from all of us that we are not falling for the charades that have held us back. if anyone tells you if you are an american citizen and you are working-class, middle-class, your life is not what you wish it would be, you don't feel you shake, let's fair be the folks that tell the truth. the immigrants did not do that. it was not the im

but i remember a time howard dean was the front-runner. he obviously didn't run the caucus.s a long way to go yet. >> reporter: we learn a lot about our politicians at the fair. how they handle the heat. >> what do you like about flipping porkchops? >> well, it gets me to one step closer to eating a porkchop. >> reporter: do you have to do a slide like that to be president? >> no. it's allot of fun. >> it's great to have any family here although my wife got a little competitive in that. >> reporter: so far none have arrived in helicopters as donald trump did four years ago. and there have been few bumper car sightings. a moment he later used for a debate. >> to prepare for this debate i rode in the bumper cars at the state fair. >> reporter: as the full democratic field flocks to the fair this weekend, the race is on to make a good impression. time is running short to make friends, or in this case, supporters at the iowa caucuses. and before the weekend is out, kamala harris, elizabeth warren, cory booker, bernie sanders, and all of the democratic field will be coming here t

and that was the pitch the democratic susta establishment made to go with john kerry instead of howard deanremember early 2004 dean had the lead starting to get endorsements and the democratic establishment said, no, this is george mcgovern. you can't nominate him. this is a wartime election. you need a war hero candidate. you need jobshn kerry and john kerry said, bring it on, i can face george w. well, you saw what happened with john kerry and the swift boat, flip-flopping, didn't win the election. what looked electable in the primary didn't translate to it in the general election >> that's probably a better example because it's a midterm election -- it's a re-election campaign versus 2008 which was an open election if you willite. but, again, donald trump changes everything and i think one other thing to take under a midterm turnout like we did in 2018. that means that democrats are really engaged. so in a primary where we typically see either the very left or the very right turn out for their candidates, i think we're going to see more democrats turn out in this primary -- the primary g

former governor of vermont, howard dean.ing with us, governor kasich, as someone who has stood toe to toe on a debate stage with president trump, who from this group of democrats do you see or do you see anyone who actually could stand toe to toe on a debate stage and take the president on? as you know, and all republicans ran against him know, he presents a lot of unique challenges. >> well, anderson, first of all, let's let this campaign kind of develop. you know, i felt that joe biden, because he's more of the centrist -- because i think the country's fundamentally either center-right or center-left, i think could be on the stage and could handle himself well. but for anybody that ultimately will face him, you know, you don't want to take the bait. he's going to try to get you to go to his level. he's going to say things that are going to be outrageous toward you. he may name call. if you try to get into that and you try to get down at that level, you're making a very big mistake. i think you have to constantly correct th

but a lot of people on the howard dean campaign have gone to work on the obama campaign go on to create other elements of the kind of online progressive movement that starts to think seriously about translating his political moments into small ballads that can be used to compete with the big dollar operations. obama's campaign was one of the first was to take that into the general election at scale. these doing both. he's raising massive eye-popping amounts of money in small dollars but he is also raising eye-popping amounts of money from wall street and from big donors. so he is a decision to make in depth in the book after his election at which set of donors is he going to bring with him to the white house. he very consciously decides to shut down his campaign. it was called organizing for obama. he's had like five different names of it. a change in a moment, he shelves it. he succeeded into the dmz and orders the dnc to shut it down. the executive director was tasked with euthanizing that movement and is now running another campaign. appropriately. [laughter] he decides that he is go

but remember the time howard dean was the front runner. he didn't win the caucus.ng way to go yet. >> john. >> we learn a lot about the politicians at the fair. how they handle the heat. >> what do you like about flipping pork chops. >> it's one step closer to eating a pork chop. >> and how they slide. >> governor do you have to do a slide like that to be president. >> no it's a lot of fun but great to have my family. but my wife got competitive on that, jeff. >> so far no 2020 candidates have arrived in helicopters as donald trump did four years aigt. and there have been few bumper car sights as barack obama did when he ran for president. a moment he later used as a metaphor. >> to prepare for this debate i rode in the bumper cars at the state fair. >> as the full democratic field flocks to the fair the race is on to make a good impression time is running short to make friends. or in this case supporters at the iowa caucuses. and before the weekend is over, kamala harris elizabeth warren cory booker bernie sanders and all democratic field will be come to the state

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by the way, we need to remember the great idea, the 50 state strategy that howard dean talked about. we will go to every state, to every county. i don't care if it is blue or red or purple, we talked to everybody, don't we? we respect people by going to their communities and telling them we want to work with them and for them. we don't give up on anybody. that is a democratic party that can win. but a democratic party that only seems to care about a few voters or one coast or the other, that cannot work anymore. it should never have been done and it can't work anymore. i will tell you something. people across iowa i have talked to. they get it. they get how things have been turned against them over the years. they get that they have gotten a raw deal. when i say 40 years, working-class and middle-class people have been stuck in a place, folks in iowa understand that, and they don't accept it. they need to know something can change. they also need to hear from all of us that we are not falling for the charades that have held us back. anyone who tells you if you are an american citizen

. >> former presidential contender howard dean was a mentor to buttigieg on his short-lived campaign for dnc chair. >> the dnc people loved him and he was the symbol of a new generation. the dnc didn't really want a new generation, but they know they have to have one. when it was evident that he wasn't going to win, he decided not to be on the ballot. that was very smart. he does have an instinct for win to hold em and when to fold em. that you can't buy and you can't teach it, either. that's going to stand in a good stead as he goes through the primary process. >> the funny thing is there were people then who said, you know, i think you would make a great president. but i'm not going to vote for you for dnc chair and explain all the reasons why. >> two years later, pete buttigieg took their praise to heart. >> my name is pete buttigieg. they call me mayor pete. i am a proud son of south bend, indiana, and i am running for president of the united states. >> what is your political ideology? >> i view myself as a progressive but also am aware of living in a moment when a lot of the ide

everything was absolutely surreal the second mike, bill diblasio using we will tax the wealthy and howard dean kind of voice. >> and 10 more to go. >> appreciate it. autopsy reveals no sign of trauma in the sudden death of kennedy hill, the granddaughter of the late robert f kennedy. there are reports she died of a drug overdose, final cause of death will have to wait on the toxicology report. hill is the niece of doug kennedy. we now know the name of the fighter jet pilot killed in a training crash, lieutenant charles walker was flying through death valley when his f-18 his a canyon wall. 7 people on the ground word. lieutenant walker was 33 years old and leaves behind a wife. a deputy goes out of her way to protect the business's fall american flag, the holding caught on surveillance video. ukrainian restaurant over said he is overcome with patriotism. >> not a lot of people will do that in my country, respect the flag, made me proud to be in this country. >> i would like to think anybody who has the opportunity to live in america would do the same thing. >> the flag been torn down during a

course when is named for john mercer langston, virginia's first black congressman and howard law school's first deanficult to assess by the access by communities of color with barriers ranging from hard line racist practices to more systemic practices involving the locations of the courses. the president of howard university spoke to reporters about the significance of curry's gift. let's listen. >> i want to also address mr. curry. you know, we are in a very interesting time in our country and our nation's history, no doubt about that. there's a lot for us to be cynical about, a lot for us to be disappointed by, especially in terms of the rhetoric. but one of the things that i think we all must make sure we double down on is investing in the people who invest in us, and one of the things that we have to take pause today among everything else happening is to realize that mr. curry represents what is great about america. >> i'm joined by the president of howard university, president dr. wayne frederick. thank you, sir. let's talk about the particular issue of the big fund. the money that steph curry

i am currently the interim dean of the college of arts and sciences at howard.now. i will be returning to the department in august, and i'm really looking forward to it. we are here to commemorate two very important documents. the first is the d.c. compensated emancipation act which was signed by president lincoln on april 16th, 1862. it was actually passed by congress on april 11th and president lincoln signed it on april 16th. and we'll talk about that little period where there was lingering doubt about whether or not he was going to sign it. of course the emancipation proclamation was signed by president lincoln on january 1, 1863. so the d.c. emancipated compensation -- the d.c. compensated emancipation act was enacted or passed more than eight months before the emancipation proclamation. and about 3 1/2 years before the 13th amendment. and we will get into a discussion of how each of those different -- before i start grilling my colleagues i want to indicate just a little bit about each one of those documents. the d.c. compensated emancipation actually stip