. >> we're joined by howard epstein and opponent of the measure. thank you, both, for being here. e're going to start with opening statements and we'll begin with howard. why do you believe this proposition is so important? >> i believe it should be defeated. that's not important. this is not going to do anything. it's not going to stop the traffic. if you look at it, and look at, for instance, the fees charged on a $20 single ride, it's going to add 65 cents to the ride. on the $10 ride-share, it's going to add under a dollar to the ride. that's not going to dissuade anybody from taking the ride-shares. and frankly, given the state of muni in san francisco, given the way the taxis work -- where i live in the richmond, it's almost impossible to get a taxi. ride-shares are helpful. i use them all the time when i'm going downtown, out to dinner. whatever. they're very handy. and to take them away and say, well, people are going to run down to take the muni just isn't going to happen. the other thing in this, there is a paragraph in there that allows this commission to add a $300 mill

involving an allegation again, unclear whether it's true, about trump and epstein that ami sent reporters after. >> here is what dylan howard'says about this. this was the editor at the "national enquirer," quote, we have advised mr. howard to make no further comment at this stage while all legal options and jurisdictions are being considered. >> it's obviously been a significant story in the last few weeks that dylan howard has done has done a lot of saber rattling, and has actually threatened booksellers around the world using a legal team that he's retained in just about every region if they carry this book. in australia, several retailers have pulled this book from sales, a big best seller here in the united states, it started an important conversation about press freedom and you see how fragile press freedom is when you see a book like this getting yanked from sale because of a spurious threat from a tabloid editor. >> there's other rev elations i the book, including everything that's happening at nbc and matt lauer. we will get to that in our next segment with you next hour. thank you, stick around, please. >> i've lite