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howard fineman. >> i thought that was my music. >> it can be your music. >> not because i'm drinking of ari's angle mug. >> we apologize. >> i would like my own mug. >> so, let's talk about campaigning. okay. the fundamentals of this election were set a year or two ago, how folks feel about the president and how they feel about the economy, the direction of the country. what party they typically go with. these are the fundamental elections. these things are pretty much set in stone a year or two ago. so, what about campaigning. how much does campaigning matter? i know it does matter, but how much difference does it make? >> it depends on what you mean by campaigning. television ads are not campaigning and going around from courthouse to courthouse in a bus is sort of campaigning but not the most important kind of campaigning. especially in low turnout elections, which this midterm will be. it's targeting, it's on the ground forces who are going to almost literally drag people to the polls. >> right. >> i mean, this is what it's going to be. person by person, van by van. suv by suv to

. >> did you hear howard a couple minutes ago, howard fineman? he said there's an undercurrent here. beware the west africans, beware the mexicans -- >> except that it's not an undercurrent. it's an over-current. >> president obama tolls reverend al sharpton about the importance of voter turn-out in the midterms. let's listen to the president. >> we can't afford to be sitting at home, thinking that the mid terms don't matter. because i have two years left in my presidency, and i want to make every single one of them count, and i need a partner in congress. and the truth is, in most of these states, in most of these congressional districts, if we have high turn-out, we win. when we have low turn-out, we lose. simple as that. so what i need everybody to do, is just go out there and vote. >> give me the stats, how does it look right now? >> i think we've done all the things we need to do. we've raised the money. we have the candidates. we have the message. we have to get the turn-out. we have an operation on the ground. we've registered more voters

howard fineman, and ron reagan, an msnbc contributor. i want to start with this. let's look at christie who is incapable of passing up a chance to take a shot at president obama. this is christie today defending his quarantine idea. >> i think folks should understand. part of the sacrifice is going there -- when you come home, health care worker directly exposed to the virus are now members have to be quarantined. qulong they'll give us seven-minute lectures. just get to work. >> christie was also showing he would throw a punch at just about anybody in the room. i want to show you this tape. here he is going after a bystander talking about something completely different. let's watch it. >> somebody like you doesn't know a dam thing about what you're talking about except to stand up and show up when the cameras are here. i've been here when the cameras weren't here and did the work. so i'm glad you had your day to show on. we're the ones here to actually do the work. so turn around, get your 15 minutes of fame and then maybe take your jacket off, roll up your sleev

howard fineman, eugene robinson join us. guys, i really, over the 30 or 40 years have been doing this, take great pride in my ability to predict -- >> you have a great good record. >> so i really try to get it right. but i think it's hard this time, these races are so close i don't want to screw them up by saying what i think is really going to happen. but i'm liking at north carolina and secretary clinton was there. if seems to me that if kay hagan can't squeak that baby, nobody could. she's done everything right. >> she's done everything right. she's maintained that little lead. now if the race is tightening up, i think frankly that's a tough sign for her. >> and for the democrats. >> exactly. and for the democrats. if she wins that seat, it could be, you could look forward to a decent night for the democrats. you could think the democrats -- >> she's the fire wall, i agree. >> but if she goes, you got to look at new hampshire. and if -- >> let's talk about new hampshire. if we turn on the tv, if we start that night and we

howard fineman, we agree on many things. >> when we come back, hillary clinton is campaigning. we'll hear what she has to say. >>> we're monitoring former >>> we're monitoring former secretary of state hillary clinton who is about to give a speech there. a real tough race out there. we'll listen to secretary clinton when she starts talking politics after she gets over the introduction here. we have casey hunt to talk about what it smells like on the ground. you're getting good at this business. tell me. is this an attempt, programs a successful one already, to make allison grimes not an obama democrat but a bill and hillary clinton democrat? and tonight will be a big step in that. >> absolutely. i talked to mitch mcconnell and even he didn't have anything bad to say about the clintons. kentucky is a place that supported the clintons in the past. many of the people who work on hillary clinton's primary campaign are now running the allison grimes campaign. bill clinton is very close to his father, a storied figure here in kentucky. and if allison grimes will pull this out, especi

joining me now, howard fineman, and michelle bernard, and darryl weiss. right on the numbers here, billionaires, reflections on the upper crust. want to talk about ebola. reminds me of one of those movies, invasion of the body snatchers. who's next? even though it's in small numbers, it's against the promise we were given in the beginning, that it would be unlikely for it to get here. >> what's frighten, we can't point to one person who is in charge. and now there's a breach in protocol in the hospital in texas where a nurse now has ebola. what if the protocol is just wrong? i have a friend who is a physician in new york, here hospital treats a lot of african patients. she was sharing with me some details. and it's frightening. the protocol begins with put up a map of africa in your emergency room. train your staff on the names of the countries in africa and train your staff on the names of the cities in the countries where you find the ebola virus. >> or the donald trump protocol, no more airline traffic from that part of the world. >> it's ironic, we sp

i think it is what howard fineman actually thinks is true and i think there are probably are a lot oferals that think it's true. here's the problem. >> but what do you think? do you agree with fineman? >> well, i don't agree with him. but i don't think it is outland dish, i think as you think it is. but the reason i disagree with it is there is flawed logic in it the flawed logic is this. it suggests that if somehow the people beheading people in the middle east and overrunning iraq. are not brown people americans wouldn't be afraid of them. i think we know that's not true. >> why would mr. typeman say that? >> i think he is not thinking it all the way through. >> not thinking it all the way through it's a pretty simple equation. >> knee jerk reaction. >> knee jerk? >> you see commonality. you see brown people, black people and you say this, and it's the same thing with ebola. is he asking us to believe that if someone from sweden came into our country with ebola that everyone would be like, that's great. no problem. which of course we know also isn't true. >> you say it's a knee jerk

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is in '98 it's supposed to be another wave, and it's gentle. >> casey and steve, howard fineman, thank nice today, casey. still ahead, it's been more than 13 years since the u.s. went to war in afghanistan. one journalist slept next to a 500-pound bomb as part of his trip to find out what, if anything, has changed in the country. kevin joins us next to explain what that was like. and we sit down with the host of "the profit." how marcus lemonis is blind the sweetest comeback story of the year. # # . >>> 42 minutes past the hour. award winning journalist kevin sites who made his first trip to afghanistan just months. and he returned years later in what helped inspire his books "swimming with warlords." >> it's been a long strange trip over the past 12 years. you went back to see how afghanistan was different than it was in october of 2001. what did you find? >> well, this is america's costliest longest war. $600 billion. 2100 american lives lost at this point. we don't know how many afghan lives have been lost. it really begs the question, was it worth it? i talked to dozens and dozens