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i'm howard kurtz and this is "#mediabuzz". bill o'reilly hit back hard against the mother jones speech challenging his war reporting. david corn writing that the fox news host had suggested he was in the falklands islands covering the 1982 are war between britain and arrest again see in a. >> basically david corn, a layer, says i exaggerated situations. >> o'reilly says he's allege made clear as a cbs correspondent, he covered a violence protest in argentina in the war's after math. >> i was there in the street with my camera crews. the violence was horrific. soldiers fired into the crowd who were responding with violence acts of that ieir own. i never said i was on the falklands islands as corn purports. i said i covered the talk lands war, which i did. >> bill owe really'reilly gets out there and calls me a liar.lands war, which i did. >> bill o'reilly gets out there and calls me a liar. says he didn't say what he said and he's accusing me of pedaling garbage and swil and not really responding to the issue. >> and joining me

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howard kurtz is the host of media buzz on fox news channel and joins us now. rd, it's an incredible series of events which have led to this historic moment. >> brian williams had everything shep and he kicked it away. this is nothing less than an attempt by nbc universal to stop the bleeding, to stop the hemorrhaging of its credible caused by the fabrication of its star anchor, top rated network news anchor told about being hit in a copter in iraq back in 2003. it also is an attempt to save brian williams' job. because the atmospheric has turned so toxic so many other questions being raised by williams' other reporting. so many people saying they would have a hard time viewing him the same way in that anchor chair. so much vile being spewed online about brian williams that the six months represents a cooling off period. one more thing, shep, nbc initially botched this by letting brian decide that he was going to self-deport off nbc nightly news for a few days. it sounded like nobody was in charge. now we know who is in charge, steve burke, comcast and nbc unive

fox's howard kurtz has more. >> reporter: brian williams the face of nbc news the top rated network newsfor a decade is in a credibility crisis of his own making. williams told viewers last week at a ceremony honoring a veteran that he had been involved in harrowing incident in an army helicopter over iraq. >> the story actually started with a terrible moment. a dozen years back during the april vision of iraq. when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an rpg. >> reporter: but that is false. williams was not on the chopper that was hit as he reported back in 2003. on the ground we learn the chinook ahead of us was almost blown out of the sky. >> several soldiers on that mission told the stars and stripes newspaper they were disturbed by the accounts they knew to be untrue. >> they were puzzled as to how you could make a mistake like this. they were on mission. it was their first day of the inn vague of iraq. so these are memories that are seared into their minds experiences that were live changing and they'll remember for the rest of their lives. >> repo

howard kurtz is the host of media buzz on fox news channel and joins us now. , it's an incredible series of events which have led to this historic moment. >> brian williams had everything shep and he kicked it away. this is nothing less than an attempt by nbc universal to stop the bleeding, to stop the hemorrhaging of its credible caused by the fabrication of its star anchor, top rated network news anchor told about being hit in a copter in iraq back in 2003. it also is an attempt to save brian williams' job. because the atmospheric has turned so toxic so many other questions being raised by williams' other reporting. so many people saying they would have a hard time viewing him the same way in that anchor chair. so much vile being spewed online about brian williams that the six months represents a cooling off period. one more thing, shep, nbc initially botched this by letting brian decide that he was going to self-deport off nbc nightly news for a few days. it sounded like nobody was in charge. now we know who is in charge, steve burke, comcast and nbc univers

tom: bring in howard kurtz in washington. howard, brian williams repeated the story for years most recently friday night, and the big question always is for especially the anchors in this television business credibility is everything. >> and this created a huge credibility crisis for nbc. brian williams is the face of nbc news. now he made this mistake last friday on the air, and a lot of veterans are saying and a lot of journalists are asking how could you not remember whether or not the helicopter you were in was hit by a rocket propelled grenade and small arms fire. this isn't the first time brian williams embellished the story. he told it accurately in 2003 and deserves credit but with david letterman in 2013 and another with alec baldwin, told the same story about his copter being hit, the same false story for which he apologized. tom: what's with the bravado talk. hillary clinton had to take back a story about being shot at while on a tarmac or someplace on one of the battlefields. >> i don't understand. is this bar tal

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howard kurtz, what's this all about? >> i guess the attorney general would rather have melissa harry perry on msnbc saying you're as smooth as a duck and would you please quack for us. i'm sure eric holder doesn't want to be pressed on fox news about why he said we're winning the war against isis, his role in ferguson his relationship with al sharpton. but what he really doesn't want to be pressed on shannon is outrageous assault on press freedom that was the james rosen case where the attorney general authorized, as you know, surveillance of our fox news colleague. and in a separate case reporters at the a.p. and even authorized james rosen to be named as a criminal co-conspirator for doing his job. >> yeah, going through james' e-mails and those of some family members and certainly he would have to address that. i would imagine by any of us at fox that would interview him. but does he help us by walking out the door and slamming it in our faces essentially saying i'm not going to try to address your audience. it is by

i'm howard kurtz, and this is "#mediabuzz". >>> television world was stunned when jon stewart suddenly announced that later this year he'll be stepping down from his comedy central franchise. >> 17 years is the longest i have ever in my life held a job by 16 years and five months. thank you. upshot there being i am a terrible employee. but it in my heart, i know it is time for someone else to have that opportunity. >> the openingly liberal comedian rarely criticizes president obama, but when he does it stings. >> how could obama not be there? look how many world leaders he kind of bowed down to and apologized. >> when john mccain told me stewart is unfair to republicans, i got the treatment. >> from immigration to world nations to conflagrations this past sunday our nation's leading journalistic lights sought answers to the day's most pressing questions. >> you've been the on "the daily show". is jon stewart fair to republicans? >> all this in contrast to stewart's friend and frequent guest brian williams out on suspension as head of nbc universal calls his conduct unexcusable and the

i'm howard kurtz and this is media bus. "#mediabuzz". "#mediabuzz". >>> he brian williams told his staff yesterday it's become painfully apparent that he is too much a part of the news due to his own actions, but that he'll return to nightly news after several days of leave. the dramatic development rooted in the invasion of iraq when he was on an army helicopter ground grounded by a sand storm and he recounted what happened to another chopper. >> on the ground, we learned the chinook ahead of us was almost blown out of the sky. >> but his story kept changing and by 2013, the anchor was telling this version to david letterman and alec baldwin. >> two of our four helicopters were hit including the one i was in, rpg and ak-47. >> what happens the minute everybody realizes you've been hit? >> we figure out how to land safely. and we did. we landed quickly an hard and we put down and we were stuck. >> did you think you would die? >> briefly.d hard and we put down and we were stuck. >> did you think you would die? >> briefly. >> he repeated i

howard kurtz. fcc commissioner robert mcdowell for the latest on this. you have differing views. t's begin with the emotional part of it. that's something you watched very closely, howard. but we're putting a spin the on this. business oriented. will this situation with brian williams change or affect an already questionable merger between timewarner and comcast? >> at the very least, it doesn't help. brian williams credibility crisis now the suspension has become the nbc universal credibility crisis. and i'm hearing that the six-month length of the suspension surprised a lot of insiders may be quite related to the fact that comcast wants this whole story off the front burner, off the front pages, off the newscasts and the cable shows so that it can concentrate on getting the merger with timewarner cable. >> there are 81,000 complaints submitted not necessarily through the official channels of the fcc, robert. but also as we talk about submitted. this was already an imetleembattled issue. do they now take into account that we have 16,000 official complaints with the fcc on top of

howard kurtz it's terrible. it's terrible. >> that was the most cringe inducing thing i have seen since glozell green was in the bathtub full of froot loops interviewing the president. i know she was trying to end on a light note but when she lowered her voice and you're fighting for justice underneath, i thought she was going to get down on one knee and proclaim her undying love for eric holder. like an "snl" skit. >> like, will you quack for us? like may i hold you? i've never seen anything like that. what was she doing? >> i guess if the attorney general of the united states would have gone viral and everybody would have been high fiving. >> humiliating for her. does she know how she just humiliated herself? >> i guess not probably because it seemed kind of rehearsed. she had this whole thing, this is what we call you. it just reinforces the notion about the throw up the leg that a lot of nbc -- >> brian williams may make up things but i take him any day over her interviewing attorney general. speaking of bri

this is "media buzz," and i am howard kurtz. >> brian williams told his staff yesterday it is painfully apparent he is too much part of the news because of his own actions but he will return to nightly news after several days of leave, this dramatic development rooted in the invasion of iraq when williams was on an army him corporate grounded by a sandstorm and he recounted what happened to another chopper. >> on the ground we learned the chinook ahead of us was almost blown out of the sky. >> by his story kept changing and by 2013 the anchor told this version to david letterman. >> two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire including the one i was n. >> what happens when everyone realizes you were hit? >> we figure how to land safely and we did we landed quickly and hard and we put down and we were stuck. >> did you think you would die? >> briefly. sure. >> last week he repeated the false account in a ceremony honoring a piece that aids on nbc. >> it started with a terrible moment, a dozen years back during the invasion of iraq when the helicopter we were traveling in was forc

joining me now fo reaction, howard kurtz, and hollywood reporter melissa guthrie. thank you both for being with us. howard, what's your reaction to this? they say they want railroad brian to -- they want brian to succeed and come back. >> this is nbc salvaging its own credibility as well as brian williams and getting a shot at being able to come back after a six-month cooling-off period. i was told brian williams now recognizes the magnitude in fabricating his tale about his experience in iraq, and the way in which he botched the apology. it was lame, it was short it contained new inaccuracies that got knocked down. nbc belatedly realizing, in my view, that it had to show who was in charge, had to show williams was going to be punished. but at the same time because hoe's such a franchise player and face of nbc news trying to work out kind of a compromise where he could possibly return to 30 roc. >> let's go to what howie was referring to there, the january 30th, 2015 report. and the botched apology. >> the story started with a terrible moment a dozen years back, dur

fox news media analyst and host of "media buzz" howard kurtz says it is much ado about not very much. reporter: the beltway drama has been building. the latest fiscal cliff a showdown that could cripple a key government agency, the nation's security at stake. that's how it's playing in the media. >> the president, the white house, the department of homeland security are all warning congress that if the department of homeland security does not have funding by this friday, that department will shut down. >> the alternative is unthinkable. the alternative is allowing the homeland security department to partially shut down which in the age of terror is unthinkable. >> reporter: and as the obama administration playing politics on homeland security by trying to scare you the american people, about possible terror attacks? but this is an old washington ritual with more smoke than fire. the underlying issue is serious. republicans using the threat of a funding cutoff to try to block president obama's unilateral action on immigration. everyone knows this is political shadow boxing, that the de

. >> joining us now from washington to analyze, lauren ash burn and howard kurtz host of media buzz seensundays 11:30 a.m. we saw hillary clinton say she was under fire in the balkans, wasn't true. saw richard blumenthal say he served in vietnam that was false but people elected him to the senate anyway. is this case any different? >> people expect politicians to fudge the truth. a journalist doesn't have that luxury because he depends on the audience's trust. this is a huge credibility crisis for brian williams at nbc because when the top rated network anchor tells a story and he we peteedly tells a story that is blatantly false people wonder why would a journalist of his stat tour do such a thing? >> well, do you have an answer for that question that wandering question? i have turned this over in my mind again and again. maybe he convinced himself this happened it was 12 years ago. it is inexplicable to me. when he first reported this in 2003, it's on tame. he told it ache rathly that it wasn't his chopper that was hit it was another helicopter. >> all right. so you don't know why he d

in an interview with howard kurtz, o'reilly said about the author of the report "david corn is a liarr merchant, and will do anything to injure me and the network. everybody knows that. everybody -- everything i've reported about my journalistic career is true." let's dig into this. joining subcommittee monica voyeurlynn. co-editor of "mother jones" magazine and our senior correspondent and host of reliable sources "brian stelzer. welcome. how did "mother jones" begin to know about the possibility of a story o'reilly's background? how did this come to you? >> this has really been discussed for years. there have been stories over the years challenging bill o'reilly's assertions about some of the things he says he has seen and done. but it became relevant in the wake of brian williams and in the wake of bill o'reilly lashing out at brian williams and everybody else in the media for distorting coverage. that prompted us to take a close look at what he said about his own work. >> okay. more questions for you -- first brian stelzer. i think this is so different from brian williams' story f

i'm howard kurtz. i hope you like our facebook page..e you next sunday. >> thank you for always watching fox. more news >>> i am john roberts here for chris wallace. president obama hosted a summit on violent extremism but would not use "radical islam," to define the enemy. >> the notion that the west is at war with islam is an ugly lie. >> you cannot defeat an enemy if you refuse to agency what it is. >> we will discuss the land to combat isis and the ongoing stand off over the executive actions on immigration. with homeland security secretary jay jeh johnson. >> the united states outlies a military offensive in iraq. are we tipping our hand? >> it is mystifying a

joining us now, host of media buzz, howard kurtz.several news outlets showed the stills of this pilot's murder. fox news channel didn't show the channel but the dot com posted it. where do you stand on what ought to be aired? >> megyn, i see the argument on both sides. i understand the case that we ought to show the pure evil that is isis. and i thought our colleague bret baier handled it judicially by showing a couple still images. but i disagree with the fox decision and here's why. isis -- i fear many of the us in the media are helping isis spread its propaganda using its fear tactics. and i felt the same way with the beheading images almost became wallpaper for every story about isis. when that became familiar, these terrorists, butchers, went to the more sick and depraved and barbaric method of burning a man to death. and i just have a concern that we are helping spread the fear that isis so badly wants to spread. >> you know, generally on this program i have a sort of personal philosophy of going toward the light. what that mea

fox news media analyst and host of fox news media buzz, howard kurtz is here this evening. >> what thent is getting moving over to the white house is a loyalist from the 2008 campaign who also knows how to engage in combative tv interviews. but she'll be moving out of the line of fire into a more behind the scenes role now that she and her deputy at the state department have become so high profile and at times controversial defending the president. now she's respected by her press core, but occasionally drawn flak for sound pollyanna. but the thing to remember bret, when people beat up on press secretaries, they're paid to deliver the boss's message. >> triggered a controversy at the state department this week, as well. >> i only criticize for telling msnbc that we can't fight our way out of this war on terror and consider root causes as a lack of jobs. and at the same time, you know we have to say that some republicans have said similar things in the past but it really sounded off-key for this reason. and that is it came after a state of those brutal videos of isis showing the beheadi

howard kurtz is the host of media buzz, and steve hayes writer for the weekly standard. gentlemen, good to see you both. howard, "new york times" clearly a right wing nut job hit piece. >> the "new york times" editorial pages in defending a democrat you've really lost your base, i would say. look, i got to credit "the wall street journal" or "the washington post" for digging out this mess. it's based on the fiction that hillary clinton is not technically met physically a candidates. this is a mess because comes after her -- when leaving the white house comment. she's giving these speeches to corporate and other groups for $200,000 or more. some of those speeches continuing this year. and now we have the unsavory spectacle of a foreign government trying to curry favor through the back door by contributing to the bill, hillary and chelsea clinton foundation. >> all right, steve. some would say those have been some unforced errors. certainly hillary clinton is -- she was former secretary of state, first lady for two terms. are you surprised or are you among those that there

howard kurtz, what's this all about?he attorney general would rather have melissa harry perry on msnbc saying you're as smooth as a duck and would you please quack for us. i'm sure eric holder doesn't want to be pressed on fox news about why he said we're winning the war against isis, his role in ferguson his relationship with al sharpton. but what he really doesn't want to be pressed on shannon is outrageous assault on press freedom that was the james rosen case where the attorney general authorized, as you know, surveillance of our fox news colleague. and in a separate case reporters at the a.p. and even authorized james rosen to be named as a criminal co-conspirator for doing his job. >> yeah, going through james' e-mails and those of some family members and certainly he would have to address that. i would imagine by any of us at fox that would interview him. but does he help us by walking out the door and slamming it in our faces essentially saying i'm not going to try to address your audience. it is by far the large

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i appeared on media buzz the sunday program of our fox news colleague howard kurtz, you were a guestl on a different topic. and in response to a question i expressed dismay at the treatment of jen psaki and harp on social media you described the internet a sewer whether there have been photo shopped images as a valley girl mall rep. phone sex operators. women in a mental ward with their underwear showing. they have been called dumb bitches and. partnershipy long stockings. let us be clear to discern an element of sexism in all of this which sin arguable not to endorse everything they have sewed or the way they have ted. >> let me get a few questions. in number one, i don't go into the sewer so i don't know about these terrible things said about those women and you are absolutely right to defend them rosen, and i respect that. i think you are absolutely right. >> thank you. >> but, the sexism card, they used it against me that was absurd, i hammer everybody. >> when they impaleudissed sexism to you i rejected that. when i have been in a state department briefing room i have given each

joining me now, bernard goldberg, fox news media analyst, and howard kurtz. we begin with bernie who is on the phone tonight. bernie, your reaction to the breaking news? >> well, i've been wrong about every facet of this story, right from the beginning. i thought the story would go away, as i once put it in the blink of an eye. and the thing that changed it and i didn't see this coming is that it was a page one "new york times" story. once something like this hits page one of "the new york times," it gives permission to everybody else in the media to pile on. "the new york times" is the bible of liberal journalism. "the new york times" allows other journalists to know what's newsworthy and what isn't newsworthy, what they can cover and how to cover it. once it hit the front page of "the new york times," that became brian williams' problems. then the new orleans angle cropped up. then you have a million dick tracies out there on the web who are checking every facet of this out. i'm just immensely surprised that it has come to what it's come to. >> that's the t

howard kurtz is the host of media buzz, and steve hayes writer for the weekly standard.entlemen, good to see you both.ew york times" clearly a right wing nut job hit piece. >> the "new york times" editorial pages in defending a democrat you've really lost your base, i would say. look, i got to credit "the wall street journal" or "the washington post" for digging out this mess. it's based on the fiction that hillary clinton is not technically met physically a candidates. this is a mess because comes after her -- when leaving the white house comment. she's giving these speeches to corporate and other groups for $200,000 or more. some of those speeches continuing this year. and now we have the unsavory spectacle of a foreign government trying to curry favor through the back door by contributing to the bill, hillary and chelsea clinton foundation. >> all right, steve. some would say those have been some unforced errors. certainly hillary clinton is -- she was former secretary of state, first lady for two terms. are you surprised or are you among those that there are more chi

while some see the suspension as a way to push williams off the air for good fox's howard kurtz says nbc hopes to have him back one day. >> as strange as it sounds for nbc to be suspending its star without pay and to use words like inexcusable and breach of trust, this is an attempt to save brian williams' job. >> nbc news says that lester holt will continue to fill in for brian williams least for now. >> so what happens in six months? he comes back after lester holt who is solid, does a great job? after six months in exile. don't know how that's going to work. >> do you think everyone deserves a second chance? but i think trust is hard to get back. >> i think they'll investigate a bunch of things. if they find more i think that will determine if he comes back in six months. and if the ratings don't move with lester holt, it is hard to imagine brian williams coming back. >> there is a story that when nbc wanted to move jay leno that man wanted to get the job. good news for him jon stewart is leaving the daily show in about six months, so maybe he can slide right in there. >> later we

last night, howard kurtz is fox news media analyst and the host of "mediabuzz." d is this for brian williams and nightly news howard? >> martha, it is very hard to fathom how a anchor of brian williams's stature and experience could tell the false story. it create ad credibility crisis for nbc news. he was right to apologize after army veterans told the "stars and stripes" newspaper that he was not on the chopper that was hit. the difficult thing here he is blaming fog of memory in conflating two events, you're in a helicopter that gets hit by rocket propelled grenade and forced to land i would think you never forget that. martha: to be clear, when he originally reported the story back in 2003 he did not claim his chopper was the one that was hit, correct. >> that is correct but over the years the story has evolved a bit. martha: taken on a new life. i want to play a little bit from the original account, most recent original account that prompted the reaction online and opened up this whole can of worms. let's play that. >> the story started with a terrible moment

martha: howard kurtz the host of "mediabuzz." howard, this is one of the big questions, does the punishment fit the crime? what do you believe will be next for brian williams? >> many nbc staffers are stunned by the severity of punishment although a source told me brian williams himself understands and remorsely and embarrassed what he has done. oddly enough this presents an attempt by nbc executives who looked like they were not in control of the situation when the brian williams gave the lame and inaccurate apology and tried to suspend himself for few days in an attempt to save his job. the idea the atmosphere is so toxic, so many questions being raised by williams's reporting let this cool down six months if he can in fact return to the anchor chair because the network has so much invested. >> look at the statement that came through. it was larger statement was released by the president of nbc news and this is from steve burke, the head of nbc universal. brian jeopardized the trust millions of americans place in nbc news. his a

in an interview with howard kurtz, o'reilly said this about the report's author saying quote, david cornme and the network. host of reliable sources, brian stelter, this is what frank says now. actually said this week to our own don lemon. >> we never got anywhere near it. i covered the war from buenos aires. there were demonstrations some of the disturbances he talked about. i never saw troops open fire in a big way on crowds. so this can be scrutinized, don, but i just don't think that this is on a par of the -- the issues the exaggerations, and the trouble that brian williams is in. >> all right. brian, you weigh in. should there be any parallels made between what o'reilly did or didn't say, and what brian williams has said? >> well that's certainly why these issues are coming up fred. the issues of brian williams the real crisis that enveloped nbc news as a result of the exaggerations in brian williams' iraq war story from 2003 created a crisis that continues at that news division. and this is a very different situation. but "mother jones" invoked the brian williams crisis in reporti