now, let's talk about howard moore jr. who was there on the left. howard moore jr. as general counsel, a native son of atlanta. he had been inspired to attend law school when thurgood marshall came to atlanta and wowed a crowd. moore said to himself, i can talk like that. and so he could. but, howard moore, despite walden before him, horace ward and other ambitious african-americans, had to go out of state. that was because of the time he was excluded from university of georgia because of his race. he went north to boston university, and when he graduated, he came back to georgia. he really wanted to be a member of the georgia bar and the practice in his home state and city. he joined the bar in 1962, and when he -- when he did he was only the tenth full-time black lawyer practicing, not in atlanta but in the entire state of georgia. which might strike you as pretty incredible. those numbers by the way didn't improve very much until the 1970s. once he joined the bar, he went to work for donald hollowell, another legendary lawyer who was very important to the student