i'm rejoined by chairman and ceo of starbucks, howard shultz. ward, when you hear mitt romney and rick santorum, the two people -- i guess one of them will become the nominee looking at the polls today, do you like what you hear? do you think they get it? do they understand the problem and the solution? >> i think there is a lot of rhetoric right now because of how fierce this competition has been. i guess until yesterday when governor romney won illinois, i wouldn't take some of their remarks too seriously. i think this is a fierce race and they're trying to win the nomination. you know, i'm a registered democrat. i don't want to get into a situation where i'm either commenting on the republican party or in any way criticizing the president. i'm not here to do that. i am here to say that i want to embrace citizenship over partisanship. and i really would like to see the ideology and the self-interests just come out of the politicking and have all of our elected officials put their feet in the shoes of every day working americans. that's -- that

howard kurtz says conserves tiffs do have a point. >> there's a bit of a double standard. when ed shultzsed the same word, there was a bit of a controversy, but not like this. so i think that because -- part because limbaugh looms as a large, but also because he's a conservative with enemies on the left, this seems to have been blown up more. >> ed shultz did call laura ingraham personally to apologize. sandra fluke did put herself in the public arena by testifying at congressionally hearing. on one hasn't she can be considered a public figure, but she doesn't a household name. she's never run for office like sarah palin or michele bachmann, which is one reason limbaugh's attack might have been seen more as a little more than the mudslinging. >> do we know if he called this student to personally apologize directly to her? >> as of yesterday, he did not call her, and, you know, this is what she said on "the view." actually she wasn't even welcoming a call from him. certainly she's not a fan of rush limbaugh and isn't waiting by the phone to waiting for the phone to ring. so far it hasn't