and has his doctorate on spirituality about howard thurman. >> he has a phd from san francisco, californiatitute of integral studies . >> i had him on some years ago . it is great to have you and he is in the audience and listening . and eager to hear what you have to say . even though i am sure he has read quite a bit of it. >> he has lived it and read it. and edited out a few things. >> i love the book and how you relate to your family and it. your mom and dad and your sister and your daughters. it was an amazing story. >> thank you. >> we will hear more in the next few segments. tell us about this and why you chose those words to articulate your story . >> i will do that. >> please join us in our next segments with reverend donna fado ivery . >>> welcome back to 'mosaic'. if you are just joining us we are talking to reverend donna fado ivery and her memoirs that have just come out on , sleep, pray, heal. i am always interested in titles of books but only, not just the titles of the books but the chapters . tell us a little bit about how you came about with such an interesting title. >>

feel is nothing we can do, um, i like to use poem from an american african-american theologian howard thurman, he said this, when the song of the angels is stilled, when the star in the sky is gone, when the kings and princes are home, when the shepherds are back with their flock, the work of christmas. begins, to find the lost, to heal the broken, to feed the hungry, release the prisoner, rebuild the nations and bring peace among people, and make music in the heart. very profound, well, i'm afraid we're going to have to catel our conversation on that very profound note there, as we're right out of time. i'd like to thank our guest, the reverend dr. stephen seiser, and of course our residents expert professor david miller. i also want to say a big thank you to our viewers who've helped us to grow up. audience over the last 12 months, so please keep on sharing the show, and don't forget you can also follow palestine declassified on facebook, twitter and telegram where we post regular clips and updates. in the meantime, have a lovely christmas and we'll see you next week. until then, this is ch

it's nothing we can do um i like to you is poem from um an americ african-american theologian howard thurman. he said this: when the song of the angels is stilled, when the star in the sky is gone, when the kings and princes are home, when the shepherds are back with their flock, the work of christmas begins to find the lost, to heal the broken, to feed the hungry, release the prisoner, rebuild the nations and bring peace among people, and make music in the heart. oh, very profound. well, my friend. we're going to have to curtail our conversation on that very profound note there as we're right out of time. i'd like to thank our guest the reverend dr. stephen seiser and of course our residence expert professor david miller. i also want to say a big thank you to our viewers who've helped us to grow our audience over the last 12 months. so please keep on sharing the show and don't forget you can also follow palestine declassified on facebook, twitter and telegram where we post regular clips and updates. in the meantime, have a lovely christmas and we'll see you next week. until then, this is ch