you've had in running this extraordinarily complex estate. >>> i'm back now with johnbranca and howard weitzmanjackson's attorney. howard, let me bring in you in here. obviously fascinating conversation there with john. people didn't really understand, i don't think, just what a business empire michael jackson had amassed by the end. in all your experience in working in the entertainment industry, how did michael's business empire rank? >> michael truly was one of a kind. there are very few legitimate icons in the entertainment business. a lot of people try to get to that level or are looked at in different ways, but michael was really one of a kind. he had the ability to generate millions and millions of fans worldwide that converted to huge numbers. and we see that, unfortunately, post death as well as when he was alive. an extraordinary individual. >> is it right to say -- i don't want to be morbid about this, but is it right to say -- there's an old sort of joke about this when entertainers die, it's often their best career move because billions and billions of their records get sold and so