howard zinn's writings included ideas of socialism. enough to question one of the council women on this, genie blackwell. you asked her when you interviewed her, he's an apologist for fidel castro. why should this be required reading? what did she have to say? >> she said essentially in the interview what's wrong with castro? he must be doing something right. otherwise he wouldn't stay in power this long. she also said people's parents like marco rubio's who fled, he said let's be for equality, white, black and brown and these people didn't want equality. that is why they went to the united states. >> i want to throw out a couple of quotes we have on him. he said, quote, how can you have a war on terrorism when war itself is terrorism? talking about civil disobedience, he said civil disobedience is not our problem. our problem is civil obedience, our problem is people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders and millions have been killed because of that obedience. what a statement to have essentially mandated to the high