so i called my friend howard zinn and said, howard can you store something for me tonight? we were going to see buch cassidy and the sundance kid that evening with roz and howard. so we arranged -- we went over to his apartment. i took -- his house. i took the pentagon papers with me and gave them to him to store and then we went to see "butch cassidy and the sundance kid" and that night i went into the harvard square station kiosk and got the first editions of the pentagon papers that were coming out. >> did you think you were going to go to jail? >> well, yeah. i had always assumed that i would go to jail if they chose to prosecute. i knew there was a slight chance -- i could figure there was a slight chance they might not choose to prosecute due to political reasons and in fact ehrlichman advised not to prosecute. good advice. if he had followed that he would have stayed in office essentially. or he still would have been concerned about what other stuff i was going to put out, the plumbers would have come in. but if i hadn't been on trial dean's revelations could have be

and i gave him about 1,000 pages or more and i showed it to some other people and i showed it to howard zinn to get his interest and feedback on the thing. and i dealt with mathias and so forth. so he was taking a real risk that by not telling me. now, i think that he feared that if he told me that they were about to do it that i would get real busy and try even harder to get it out through congress. i'm just trying to rationalize what he was doing. >> right. >> and indeed i might have done that unless he told me not to. but if he told me very seriously, dan you know, this won't happen unless "the times" has the scoop, don't do it and so forth i would have obeyed that. i take it he didn't trust me you know to do that. he thought i might try to get it out somewhere else. it was a misunderstanding somehow. anyway, he didn't tell me. and so the first i knew that "the times" was even -- oh he went even further. he said, "the times" has put this on the back burner. they are not making a decision on it and they have given me another job to work on. but i would like to just keep myself current on i