amy: the legendary historian howard zinn speaking in 2006 in . joined us in the studio as he launched the paperback edition of "a young people's history of the united states." i asked whether retelling of history including columbus was appropriate for children. howard: people have asked that question all the time, columbus was told they were a great hero, but that he mutilated and kidnapped indians in pursuit of gold. should we tell people that theater roosevelt, who is held up as one of our great presidents, was really a warmonger who loved nila terry exploits, congratulated an american general who committed a massacre in the philippines? should we tell young people that? we should be honest with young people. we should not deceive them. we should be honest about the history of our country. we should be not only taking down the traditional heroes like andrew jackson, theater roosevelt, but we should be giving younger people in alternate set of heroes. instead of theodore roosevelt, tell them about mark twain. mark twain, everyone learns about as

yeah, howard zinn, of course, is a famous sort of left-leaning american historian. but now, in this work, you've really embraced some of the virtues of capitalism and how sort of these principles of creating multimillion-dollar investment funds and partnering with businesses like dupont and bank of america and stella artois and crypto.com. there's a view that, you know, capitalism, in today's sort of progressive movement, it's not a redeemable system, as we've heard recently on the left. >> well, i can't certainly speak for the left, but i can just say for myself that -- i think -- well, they've polled americans about this. what people respond to mostly is ideas that work. and that's really what -- i think anytime you're trying to solve a problem, i think it's less about -- whether i'm making a movie or whether i'm doing this, it's never about ideology or clinging to any kind of preset idea. it's really about what works. and bringing the concept of finance into this has accelerated this work. i mean, we could put a number on what -- on how many people we would have

in america and as you might know from the title it's supposed to be an antidote to that book by howard zinn people's history of the united states. in 2019 he founded the wild wild world of history which is not available in a full curriculum for us and world history for grades eight through 12 24 lessons with video instruction by larry schweikart himself. his other best-selling book includes seven events that made america on this and suddenly displayed on the stable, all these pulled from the major library of freedom. the harvard institute so we have seven events that made america read out from one which the author before the election. patriots history of the modern world, 2 volumes right here and the last time he was here he presented on his book reagan the american president from 2018. he's here to talkabout his latest , "dragonslayers: six presidents and their war with the swamp". please welcome to the stage larry schweikart. >> thank you, it's great to be back here especially in a room dedicated to andrew breitbart. i only had a few occasionsto meet andrew . one of them was he went way o