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blomen hower. >> thank you for being here. i appreciate your reference to congress not hollowing out the irs so that we can actually administer programs and save taxpayer money and give them better service. i think that is something we need to focus a little attention on. i also appreciate the fact that you're here as somebody who knows what a balanced budget looks like. if memory serves, you were at omb for when we had three consecutive years of budget surpluses. so you have unique authority as an administration spokesperson in being able to help guide these conversations. i think you were also on the staff of speaker o'neil when there was interesting policy initiatives where you played a key roll and we were able to come together, look for long-term perspective and make a difference. even bridging the cap between president reagan and speaker o'neil famously working together. i have appreciated your offering up some, i think, complex and timely series of proposals. many of which i find appealing and look forward to a deeper d