we made a decision in the 1970s called system hoy. it was a computer skipes decision but it shaped everything the government has done since then. once an at tom of information gets to a network, it's trapped this. so the thorery was if the security guys were the ones that cooked up the sceems. it had to be the security goys problems to fix that. we may want to soo a secret. coming up with a structure that allows us to this adhoc information sharing. the historic technology problem. i think it's also clear based on events in georgia that cyber work is going to be a piece of the next big tight. that is different than it has been. we have a chance to tackle this. >> could i take your invitation to the start? >> i want to kick off and make sure we don't drop a point that chris raised. that is sort of the human element. those are all tied together. it seems to me this is not only a security issue but also a competitiveness issue. i think we have to revamp how we do this starting very early on. catching people when they are five or six year

the hoy way portion alone of the recovery act will eventually create or sustain jobs throughout 2012. you talk about the recovery act and how important it is. >> we have a fund that 23 action is not taken, actions will show that we won't be able to sustain the payments in the normal manner. actions are important and needed soon taking the stime in the 18 months to deal with the initial crisis an develop that approach is the appropriate way to proceed. >> mr. chairman might continue probably not for this hearing. we are talking about the jobs and what the recovery act has been doing for this great country. i'd like to know if you can revide with the inaction of dealing with the authorization bill, what negative affect that will have. looking at your positive statement on your money and the jobs that this recovery act is doing. the inaction and lack of leadership on behalf of the administration, i'd like to know the negative affect it is going to have the longer we put oven act. i know you can't answer that question today. i would like to know what negative affect it will have if we can

they added about another $1.7 million just to help those workers in twinsberg, hoy. that t mayor says that's great but we have a tough time here. and they have that huge facility. the city doesn't even know how to market. they would like to bring in somebody new to do something with it but it's owned by chrysler and the old chrysler, not the new fee at chrysler. and so how do they negotiate? with whom? they're asking all these questions and they don't have the answers. >> where and when is the recovery? >> that's a good question. unemployment as the secretary mention sd a lagging indicator. in past recessions you've seen the recession end, economic growth start, and unemployment continue to rise for months if not a year or more. so there are, there's two type of recoveries, there's the high level market gdp, economic number recovery, and then there's the average person recovery, which is my company is doing better, i can get a job. my friends or i'm not getting laid off. that's coming much, much farther down the road. >> but in cities like gary, indiana, cleveland, o

hoy my girls 3333 writes "have we, the u.s., not caused instability in the area? we have not given democracy to that land. they, too, must fight for it. guest: yes, this is no question that we can't give democracy to any land. we can't impose democracy by any means, and that's not our business, but we have a right to say what we think about the internal developments of a country, bearing in mind that the claims that there have been irregularities and distorsions of the election have not come from overseas. they have come from within iran, from leading figures in iran who support the iranian revolution. host: steve on our line for independents. good morning. caller: do you think president obama is correct in that both sides in this hype are nothing but two rattlesnakes and we hope they kill each other off? even though it is hardly meddling, the meddling has come from the terror organizations throughout the middle east and the world, and does the rest of the world see that maybe something should be done about this? i will listen to your question off the air, thank y

making determinations all the time on best practices that somehow never get through this clearing hois to get promoted. they kind of get stirred around and we add more money to them. rather than think of this as a negative approach, it's kind of saying -- and i'll be the first to say i don't know all those best practices, either, but maybe it's time we look at what we know before we put more money to find out what we already do know and put incentives before pieing more money on top of the other. probably for every dollar spent in reaction, they spend $3 in proactive research in preventing things around the world. >> i find myself with both of these distinguished senators. when this bill came up, and i looked at it, i was very critical of it and still am. it was put together without much interchange with us. and frankly, it's very broad, very expensive. that's why i've been insisting we have scoring on this thing so that we at least know where we're going. and they not be just preliminary investments but they be investments that we can rely on. and this is just one example. i think the