hryhoryan, a few days ago, the government of azerbaijan announced a plan for the reintegration of karabakhthere it is. some important points, the local population is guaranteed the opportunity to learn the armenian language, but weapons are taken away from the residents, the only currency is azerbaijani monat, and farmers, they can receive subsidies and are exempt from all taxes, except for one land tax, do you think the situation is difficult when armenians will return to nagorno-karabakh to stay there, those who have already left, you know, literally it was yesterday, the azerbaijani military is shelling, literally shooting directly at the armenian churches in karabakh, because they have already completely occupied all of karabakh... including stepan ket, and they are shooting from machine guns, so these promises to farmers to give seeds, they seem to be from the region genre of mockery. the following is very important here, what azerbaijan says: we do not guarantee the right of armenians to life, but you must take an azerbaijani passport. this is the whole problem, because authoritarian

hryhoryan, for this conversation, mr., the head of the analytical center for globalization and regional cooperation was on our air, but we will continue to stay in the region, because now we will talk with olga budnyk, ukrinform's own correspondent in turkey, turkey also remains one of the most important players in the south caucasus, but not only, because it is obvious that now a lot depends on turkey's position in russia's war with ukraine, and in the situation connected with... with what is happening with cooperation between turkey and the european union. congratulations ms. olga. congratulations, congratulations, congratulations studio. well, then, let's try to deal with the first question, why now with raje. are so harsh about the european union, what is going on? well, on the one hand, turkey declares its own disappointment, about the readiness to take other paths with the european union, but on the other hand, he speaks about the need to resume the accession process. you will recall that in june of this year, presi

hryhoryan, please repeat your answer, because i simply did not hear him and no one heard him, we simplyction. well, look, of course, ilhamalyev wanted to get rid of the population of nagorno-karabakh and thus resolve the issue ethnically, this is very similar to what ilham aliyev says, that he wanted to integrate, it is very similar to what putin says to ukraine, that he wants peace very much, he tells the international community that he wants peace, but nothing. he does not want peace, he wants to enslave ukraine, it will not work, ukraine will win, but aliyev is doing the same here, there is no difference, authoritarian leaders use the same methods, lies and force, but the main point here is still the same, and what interest was there in expulsion of the armenians of nagorno -karabakh, what was russia's interest, if aliyev's interest was understandable, he expelled the population, there are no people, there are no problems. in the case of putin the expulsion of the armenians was definitely connected with the fact that this large flow of refugees from nagorno-karabakh to armenia could