at the hsc were confident of the strength of the uk's pandemic preparations and a general view was thatdepartmental level. does it follow that at least at that stage, january, february, you were not worried about the priority that was all rather wasn't being given to covid? i was all rather wasn't being given to covid? ~ g . . , covid? i think in january, particularly _ covid? i think in january, particularly early - covid? i think in january, | particularly early january, covid? i think in january, i particularly early january, it covid? i think in january, - particularly early january, it felt like we were getting the balance right at the time. i think as we moved into late january and early february, it became clear that we didn't particularly have that balance but then i think it becomes, the focus, so yesterday was a lot on individuals, but the actual institutions and organisations within the cabinet office, department of health, the feedback was, we are well prepared to deal with this and things are in hand. the question of with a number ten should have been kicking the tires more

infrastructure or infrastructure that in these that people in these communities, was meant to communities, hsceant to benefit actually like benefit would actually like more. i think if he can show that that's what he's going to do feel like that's the do and i feel like that's the hints that that's what's coming. i think actually that has the potential be a very good potential to be a very good moment sunak and, you potential to be a very good momecould sunak and, you potential to be a very good momecould potentially: and, you potential to be a very good momecould potentially actuallyu know, could potentially actually overshadow of dithering overshadow some of the dithering and other problems and some of the other problems this conference uh, this conference has seen. uh, but will require but i think it will require something that to cut something big like that to cut through and to tell a positive story out it. we've seen a story out of it. we've seen a poll, i think today the labour lead back 19 points. poll, i think today the labour lea we'dk 19 points. poll, i think today the labour lea we