joining us for more is dan o'brien from htc.uys have to develop hardware that is going to feed into what people actually want whether it's the consumer or the business case. what is really driving activity right now? >> we see tremendous growth with enterprise business use cases, we are seeing massive growth in health care in the public sector , automotive and aerospace, architecture and engineering construction. you name it, we are seeing massive growth and great opportunities with different companies to provide value with headsets and technology. matt: this is technology that we are expecting to see from apple later this year. facebook change their name to meta in order to prepare us but we haven't really gotten it. it's also a very -- a varied landscape. it's not just one imaginary metaverse out there for everybody. there are many different ways to use it so tell us how htc approaches it. >> our brand stands for innovationnd we work in the health-care space we theater ane hospital at nyu training brain surgeons and how to pre

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. >> for people who don't have goggles, this is the vive from htc. it's the latest models. if you don't have goings, go to our website. you can watch it on your phone. it's an incredible experience. you pull out your phone and it's like a portal into another world. the idea is you are the editor of this piece. usually we tell people where to look by our editing. we do a close-up of your face and hands. here you're in the middle of the story. you edit the piece. you look wherever you want and every time you watch it it's a different story because you catch things you didn't catch before. >> thank you very much. >>> i'm going to put on my other goggles here, my glasses. thank you very much. >>> the supreme court has cut back on the epa's ability to regulate certain wetlands under the clean water act, the ruling in a long running dispute with a couple who purchased a vacant lot near idaho's priest lake and wanted to build a home. they soon ran into a fight with the epa over permits. a unanimous court found favor of the land owners but split on how the ruling should be interpre

meta is there an htc is a big player and sony but it's super nascent, fewer than 10 million units goingis. apple will have to come in here and shake it up from the bottom. they are coming in with a device that's a little bit experimental and it will be very expensive. it's anywhere from $2800-30 $200. it will have some pretty intense technology, over a dozen sensors on the outside where you control it with your high -- with your eyes and hands and you can use it for virtual reality and facetime interested to see how apple positions it. i'm told they will push it towards creative's if people use it for productivity. if the future of the computer they say. i think this will be exciting for consumers but there is a very big risk for the company. it's either going to be a huge flop or huge success and for apple, there is nothing in between. alex: quite the binary call. thank you for joining us. that does it for this edition of bloomberg technology. make sure to tune in tomorrow as we have an exclusive interview with the tiktok ceo q from theatar economic forum and check out our podcast. thi

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