despite my close connection with huawei, i would not say it is huawei, let it go. because elon musk says we will not send data to anyone, that is not good enough. they need to know what products and services of companies are worthy of trust and that is part of the challenge and opportunity we have good host: andy purdy is with huawei. gentle men, thank you for being on the communicators. >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. funded by these television companies and more, including buckeye broadband. ♪ buckeye broadband supports c-span as a public service, along with other television providers. giving you a front row seat to democracy. >> president biden met with the afghan president in the oval

it is huawei, let it go.hat is not good enough. there need to be objective means to know what products and services. that is part of our challenge and part of the opportunity we have. host: andy purdy is the chief security officer for huawei technologies in the u.s.. gopal ratnam is a reporter for cq roll call. gentlemen, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> c-span is brought to you as a public service. >> broadband is a forceful empowerment. that is why charter invested billions in infrastructure, upgrading technology, empowering community in communities big and small. >> charter communications supports c-span as a public service along with these other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. ♪ >> we take you live now to wellington, ohio, where former president trump is holding a rally to support max miller, the republican candidate in the race to represent ohio's 16th congressional district. this is live coverage on c-span. >> what i need you to do, i need you to g

>> guest: on chief security officer for. >> host: for huawei in the united states. >> host: what is huawei status currently? >> guest: we are hurt pretty badly terms of our ability to do business. we can't really sell our mobile phones because of the export controls limiting our ability to get the chips and the pressure by the government on the carriers. right now our major customers in terms of telecommunications,, 23 carriers, are basically being paid to rip and replace our equipment. things are not going very well in the united states. >> host: has a been a change in policy with the new biden administration toward huawei? >> guest: there's a lot of differences now and trends what the biden administration is doing, affected by geopolitics, domestic politics and important things in the area of cybersecurity and privacy but in terms of direct impact or is it really a direct impact on huawei right now. >> host: andy purdy, given the fact that the use of sanctions against huawei have spread to several european countries as well, where there's smoke there's often fire. is there something wron

is there something wrong with theis huawei product? >> there is a.s and microsoft exchange help demonstrate so-called trust isn't going to work. they can hack into everybody's and that's my present biden issued an order on cybersecurity, the bar needs to be raised in terms of cybersecurity defense, software, supply chain and we need much greater commitment to cybersecurity the rest and we need to start working harder on a rules -based order globally to hold government and companiesol accountable to do the right thing creating greater capability to know they are not doing it. >> to help us explore some of those issues you raised, cq roll call. >> thank you, peter. i want to ask you some questions trying to understand more where you are on the.you mentioned, it seems to me looking at the actions product biden demonstration and comments by secretary of commerce but the administration is basically following restrictions on huawei product previous administration, there really isn't a change then until now. is that your t understanding? >> i think you can

after donald trump put huawei on that us trade blacklist and blocked it from using google services, huawei reporters, would be completely different from android. now, the version of harmony0s running on this tablet looks a lot like android. the interactions are the same. the tablet also runs android apps, so i can stick the bbc news android app on here and it runs fine. the same goes for google maps. and if you run a diagnostic test app, it will report that this tablet is running android 10. now, the core of android is open source and there's nothing wrong with taking that and branching off to make your own software — that is what amazon has done with its fire 0s — and it clearly states that is a fork of android. now, it looks like this is what huawei's done here on the tablet, branching off and adding some of its own code, although it really didn't want to say it — it gave me some very vague answers — although it did say android apps are currently compatible with devices running harmony0s 2. this huawei watch 3 is running harmony0s, so it should work seamlessly with the tablet — although

maria: aware of the immense threat of huawei, the u.s. under president trump banned the company's products, while some european countries continue to work with the company, america intensified pressure by announcing it will share less information with countries that have huawei infrastructure employed. this pressure has had some success. in january of 2020, the european union announced that they will limit their use of huawei products. >> i think they now have become aware of the risk to their own people, not only directly from the technology, but the risk that america won't be able to work as closely with them, something they often count on and depend upon. maria: i have spoken with huawei's chief security officer on multiple occasions, where he has admitted to stealing trade secrets among other bizarre things. look, i understand that you are on this pr trip today, and you have this whole page ad in the journal and i agree that huawei needs to convince the world that we can actually trust the products of the company, but to say there hav

after donald trump put huawei on that us trade blacklist and blocked it from using google services, huaweieporters, would be completely different from android. now, the version of harmony0s running on this tablet looks a lot like android. the interactions are the same. the tablet also runs android apps, so i can stick the bbc news android app on here and it runs fine. the same goes for google maps. and if you run a diagnostic test app, it will report that this tablet is running android 10. now, the core of android is open source and there's nothing wrong with taking that and branching off to make your own software — that is what amazon has done with its fire 0s — and it clearly states that is a fork of android. now, it looks like this is what huawei's done here on the tablet, branching off and adding some of its own code, although it really didn't want to say it — it gave me some very vague answers — although it did say android apps are currently compatible with devices running harmony0s 2. this huawei watch 3 is running harmony0s, so it should work seamlessly with the tablet — although wh

policy with respect to cables to be built by china's huawei marine networks or even cables that would be built by trusted providers that would connect between the u.s. mainland and china, there are several three or four of these connections that are direct between the u.s. and china but the license was given by the fcc for a link in 2017 and since then you've seen several proposed projects that have not yet met with fcc because of cc has become completely unable to trust the cable that would land in shanghai or hong kong and would be free from chinese state subversion. another piece of the u.s. domestic policy mix has to do with technology controls and their it's a little more opec, how are we managing things like export controls to see the sophisticated fiber-optic technology needed to allow the chinese players to compete at the top-tier against the long-standing and more advanced democratic country players, are we preventing american institution and companies exporting that technology or are we seeing leakage of the damaging variety and some of that has to do with the u.s. companies

the ban on huawei is still in place.ee not just the economic dimensions, but the geopolitical dimensions as well. anchor: june dreyer, she was talking about the geopolitical divide, which leads me to ask, could this race to make up for the shortfall and not political tensions? june dreyer: i am not sure, because the chinese government is the reason for most of these political tensions. things were going fine until the chinese began to use computer chips and rare earths and all kinds of things is economic weapons, so the geopolitical tensions are already there. i don't think they will get worse because of this, but taiwan has the money. morris chang, i don't know who is the richest person in the world, but he is up there, not him personally, but his corporation does have the money and taiwan does have the talent. when i was in college, the top of the class at m.i.t. was always taiwanese. they were half a dozen in the top 10. they have the talent. they have the money. and they have the geopolitical impetus. if we don't sta

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usa on possible new opportunities for huawei and cybersecurity concerns in the u.s. >> we also have to look globally at what is necessary, what is possible to make for greater security, assurance, privacy, globally. we need to think outside the box and not go with the same old stuff that is not working. accountability and transparency are the key. germany is doing some important things to try and make sure that the operator and the equipment suppliers have good visibility and strong requirements. that is one of the things missing in the united states. a senator was on a recent show and he said the recent attacks are like a wake-up call but then america falls back asleep. the fact is that congress has dropped the ball and not exercise their oversight ever since that management attacks. there need to be requirements, objectives, funding, authorities and heads need to roll if we do not do what is necessary to make america safer. >> watch the communicators saturday on c-span. >> and now, u.s. attorney general garland and assistant to the

anna: what are the prospects of huawei getting with that?ink that is a huge priority. there are bigger fish to fry. the challenge of making america safer for cyberspace has been revealed in these executive orders. that is important. we hope we can talk to the u.s. government, we would like to collaborate. we have been active in global efforts. we are closer with our competitors. this is the kind of thing that takes presidents. the ability of american companies [indiscernible] there are american jobs on the line. hopefully there can be a compassionate focus on [inaudible] including semi conductor industry. anna: the u.s. has those views about backdoors that have allowed cyber attacks for nations to exploit. your smartphone business has faced challenges as a result. how much has the blacklist part the cell phone business? andy: our mobile phone business has been severely hurt by the controls that limit the sale of the semi conductors to huawei, we do not have full supply of the tips. plus, the u.s. has blocked the ability of google to work wit

. >> monday night on "the communicators," andy purdy, chief security officer of huawei's usa on a newpportunities for huawei in the u.s. >> we have to look globally, what is possible to make for greater security, greater assurance, greater privacy globally, and we need to look outside the office instead of going with the same old stuff that is not working. accountability and transparency are the key. . germany is doing important things to make sure the operators and the equipment suppliers have good visibility and very strong requirements. that is another thing that has been missing in the united states. senator king said recently that the recent attacks are kind of like a wake-up call, but america falls back to sleep. absolutely. congress has not exercised the oversight, ever since the office attack. there need to be objectives, there need to be things done. >> watch "the communicators," monday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span2. >> they senate appropriations subcommittee had fbi director christopher wray testify on the president's 2022 budget request for his agency. he also spoke abou

on possible new opportunities for huawei and cybersecurity concerns in the u.s. >> we've also got toook globally at what is necessary, what is possible to make for greater security, greater assurance, greater privacy globally. and we need to think outside the box and not just go with the same old stuff that's not working. and frankly, accountability and transparency are the key. as i said, germany's doing some important things to try to make sure that the operators and the equipment suppliers have good visibility and very strong requirements. that's one of the things that's been missing in the united states. senator king of maine was on a recent sunday show and he said, well, the recent attacks are like a wakeup call but america falls back asleep. absolutely. the fact is congress has dropped the ball and has not exercised their oversight. ever since the office of personnel management attacks, through to the president. there needs to be requirements and objectives. there needs to be funding and authorities and heads need to roll if we don't do what's necessary to make america safer. >

the sec seeks to ban products from the likes of huawei. more details next. this is bloomberg. ♪ bloomberg. ♪ haidi: president biden's diplomatic tour may take him to the east next for a dialogue with xi jinping. talks between them will be planned soon. that news comes as u.s. regulators propose a ban on chinese surveillance cameras and other products linked to oppression in china. we do have breaking news now just crossing the bloomberg. according to a reuters report, the chinese apps could face subpoenas and bans under the biden executive order, aimed at safeguarding american sensitive data. it could cause some chinese apps to take tougher measures when it comes to data privacy if they want to remain any chinese -- in the u.s. market. that is according to people familiar with the matter. the goal is to keep adversaries like china and russia from gaining access to this kind of information. the commerce department could issue subpoenas to collect information about certain smartphone, pc, and tablet software applications, then potentially negotiate for the con

customers will need to replace their camera systems p had huawei said these actions were misguided and unnecessarily punitive. this is something developing and we are definitely going to continue to follow it as these regulations are rolled out. kathleen: as this progresses, what is the role of congress here? emily: congress definitely has a role. one of the big pieces of bipartisan legislation that is moving through congress right now is a bill that is meant to bolster u.s. research and development and that is with the idea of keeping the u.s. competitive against china and this is something, particularly with the fcc, with a ban on electronics, it is something that congress is looking into, seeing what their role needs to be, what more they might be able to do that the fcc does not have the power to do. this is one of the few things in washington that is very bipartisan and we are expecting to see more regulations come out as the year continues. kathleen: emily wilkins, thank you very much, our government reporter joining us from washington. xi jinping is tapping a top deputy to help

after donald trump put huawei on that us trade blacklist and blocked it from using google services, huawei that is a fork of android. now, it looks like this is what huawei's done here on the tablet, branching off and adding some of its own code, although it really didn't want to say it — it gave me some very vague answers — although it did say android apps are currently compatible with some devices running harmony0s 2. this huawei watch 3 is running harmony0s, so it should work seamlessly with the tablet — although, when i tried to use the watch as a camera viewfinder for the tablet, i couldn't get it to work. what is this experience like for a uk consumer? obviously, there are no google services but huawei has been working to develop its own replacement such as petal maps, which comes pre—installed. it's powered by tomtom and has most of the features you'd expect. there's a movie store with popular films, and huawei music — a streaming app that had every hit artist i searched forfrom major labels, although there were a few anomalies. this definitely isn't steps. i tried to reverse image

came around, basically restricting huawei, france came around to doing that.opean nations did. as people look at the facts there will be more of a convergence interviews. it does not mean hostility, but it does mean we have to be careful and judicious about the impacts of our national security. guy: let's turn her attention to the meeting with vladimir putin -- let's turn our attention to the meeting with vladimir putin. how does president biden rollback what russia is doing right now? what needs to be achieved in the meeting? michael: we have seen russia be very aggressive. we have seen russian intelligence behind a massive pack of solar winds which found vulnerabilities in thousands of networks that were using solar winds. the other thing the russians have done is allowed criminal organizations to operate inside russia as long as the victims are outside russia. the russians do this to have a reservoir of reservists. they want to use them for national purposes. we need to push back against that. we have used sanctions and criminal indictments. they have not b

that's everything huawei is targeted, but, yes, it is part of their shift.n the internet of things space, they do have competition from the likes of xaomi, so it may not be plain sailing for the company, but this is important -- this is an important strategy for them. haidi: up next, we speak to panama's minister of foreign affairs about the plan to turn mining into a key economic driver. this is bloomberg. ♪ haidi: we do have an update when it comes to president biden's meeting with republicans when it comes to infrastructure. talks to continue. we are hearing from republican senator shall be more -- shelby moore that there were frank discussions. they will be talking again on friday. no breakthrough yet when it comes to a bipartisan compromise, but plans to speak again on friday. that oval office session lasted more than an hour. we are seeing, i guess, some movement toward incremental progress on infrastructure talks. shery: the prime minister of panama says he expects a strong economic recovery from the covid-19 pandemic, but that any plan depends on a s

i am doing my best to avoid saying huawei, i do not know why. you know the huawei challenge, vte. they have very good equipment and you think it is inferior, it is because the supply is there. for a while we have been polite about avoiding these conversations but now they are front and center as to what we are doing. going back to disinformation, you get the question in a lot of policy areas, what is your proof point? my priest point is i have a long history of not trusting them -- my proof point is that i have a long history of not trusting them. [laughter] a lot of people start to get that. hopefully, this will be area we will not only test a policy area but the global area. the u.n., always a challenge, their ability to get people in from chinese entities to their working groups, especially technical working groups, is a concern a lot of us have had all lot of long-term concern about. but we have not had politicians understanding it yet and i think we are getting there. so i appreciate all the work you guys are doing in that space. klon: can i foot stop one thing on that proof

while way is a big -- huawei is a big holder. >> we have seen data be rerouted to china.ve also seen what happened with the african union, so it is clear that huawei has a pattern of behavior that shows data being moved to china. >> internet giants like google and facebook already said they will not use the piece, officially, because they have enough transfer capacity, however, last year, google and facebook suspended part of another cable they were supposed to build between l.a. and hong kong between -- over data security concerns. while the u.s. has taken a harder stance against chinese telecom technology, french president emmanuel macron and german chancellor angela merkel says despite these curative risks, they will not isolate china. >> you don't take unnecessary risks, but there are many risks associated with taking an only nationalistic view to technology. it can intentionally break the architecture of the internet. >> and whether or not the u.s. is happy about it, the portion of chinese-built undersea infrastructure is projected to grow from 11% in 2019 to 20% in

the white house says it includes huawei and the country's three biggest telcos.tors have one year to slowly divest. -- to fully divest. president biden is proposing a 15% minimum tax rate on corporations as a way to fund the bipartisan infrastructure package. the plan would increase tax revenues by conducting more audits of rich taxpayers. the white house sees the offer as raising money without rolling back resident trump's 2017 tax cut, something republicans say is a redline. russia says it is illuminating the u.s. dollar from its national wealth fund to reduce exposure from sanctions. they will shift to the yuan, the euro, and gold. the transfer will happen and affect hundred 19 billion dollars in liquid assets. the move comes less than two weeks before a biden summit in geneva. -- a biden-putin summit in geneva. spacex has launched three tons of supplies to the international space station, including fresh avocados and lemons. it should arrive saturday. the cargo includes thousands of tiny frozen sea creatures that will be thawed and revived for studies on the

. >> tonight on the communicators, the key -- chief security officer rader -- operator of huawei on cyberecurity concerns in the u.s.. >> we have to look globally at what is necessary and possible to make for greater assurance and privacy globally. frankly, accountability and transparency are the key. germany is doing important things to try to make sure the operators and equipment suppliers have good visibility and strong requirements. recent attacks are a wake up calls. kind was has dropped the ball and has not exercised oversights. there need to be requirements and objectives, funding, authorities, and heads need to roll if we don't do what is necessary to america safe. >> watch on c-span two. >> c-span landmark cases explores the stories and constitutional drama behind significant supreme court decisions. sunday, a landmark case, a man arrested for suspicion of kidnapping and rape. he signed a written confession. the supreme court ruled the confession was inadmissible because he was not notified before being questioned of his fifth and sixth amendment rights against self termination a

the huawei, they had very good equipment. you think it's interior and you are, like, no, it's because of why w it's there.n for a while we have been maybe polite about avoiding these conversations andrm now they ar front and center into what we areas doing. and going back to the disinformation, and you get a lot of n questions on the polic issues, and it's like, what is proof point? i have a long history of not trusting them, and sometimes that's not enough and a lot of people start to get that and hopefully that will be a continued area that we will not only test in the policy arena but in the global area. you know, u.n.in always is a challenge, right? theirr ability to get the chinee into entities to their working groups and especially technical working groups is a concern that a lot of us on the ee side have had a long-term concern about, and we have not had the long-term politicians understanding that and we are gettingop there. i appreciate all you are doing in that space. >> can i put one point on the proof point notion

new opportunities for huawei and cybersecurity concerns in the u.s. >> we've got to look globally at what is necessary, what is possible to make for greater security, greater assurance, greater privacy globally. and we need to think outside the box and not just go with the same old stuff that's not working and, frankly, accountability and transparency are the key. as the said germany is doing some important things to try to make sure that the operators and equipment suppliers have good visibility and very strong requirements and that's one of the things that's been missing. senator king of maine was on a recent sunday show and he said the recent attacks are wild like a wake-up call but america falls back asleep. .. >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government funded by these television companies and more including podcasts. >> to think this is just a community center, now it's way more than that my comcast is partnering with a thousand community centers to create wi-fi enabled listing so students are low-income families can get the tools they need to be ready for anything. comcast

after that, the communicators with andy berti, chief security officer of huawei technologies

it was the week that huawei wants this self developed operating system harmony os in an attempt to challenge dominance in smartphone software. bill gates announced a push for $1 billion to accelerate green tech and ebay updated its terms of service meaning that sellers can no longer use paypal. and a cyber attack hit the world's largest meat supplier. computer networks at gbs were hacked, temporarily shutting down operations in australia, canada and the us. the ransomware attack could lead to shortages of meat or raise prices for consumers. adrian has found itself crashing into the lava flow of a volcano. it happened in the south—west of iceland were drone by the gerry adams tried capturing the volcano which has been erupting since march. and finally i'm not at all creepy robot which copies you. scientist at columbia university in new york used deep learning to teach the robot, a there, to mimic the expressions are people around it, it can express anger, disgust, fear, joy, sadness and surprise and the aim of the technology is to build trust between humans and robotic workers and caregivers

they include huawei in the semi conductor manufacturing corporation. it cites alleged ties to china's military, which could pose a national security threat. let's check in on the trading action. wall street closed in the red. nasdaq was down about 1% of the closing bell. shares of amc entertainment compared their wild ride, making up the gains and finally closing 18% lower. trading of those shares was suspended several times in what appears to be more volatility driven by retail investors. two sets of data have raised hopes about tomorrow's labor report. first-time claims for unemployment benefits dropped below 400,000 for the first time since the pandemic -- early days of the pandemic. the private sector added nearly one million jobs according to adp. french businesses are preparing for covid restrictions to be further eased next week. amusement parks are among those that expect to reopen and they are hoping for a busy summer season. >> this theme park outside paris may seem like a ghost town, but behind the scenes it is a hive of activity. employees

in all areas but we will need to make similar investments in 5g to counter china's efforts around huawei, and have an alliance around democracies as we do with artificial intelligence, and many areas around biotech, literally, hundreds of billions of dollars, combined with a very organized and well executed plan, and you have an economic challenge, especially in technology areas that we have never seen in this country before and candidly, again, we will need to do this not just in america but with an alliance of democracy. whether it is cyber that we need international standards, whether it is around technology development, whether it is around standard and rules setting for each of these new technologies, these are all areas where america needs to be back and take the lead. karen: why do you think that g7 was not as aggressive or as explicit as you would have liked to have seen them, given that you have characterized this as basically the biggest international challenge that we and our allies are facing and 2021? sen. warner: karen, i think as i talk to the intelligence services of most

it was the week that huawei launched its self—developed operating system harmony0s in an attempt to challengesoftware. the eu and bill gates announced a push for $1 billion to accelerate clean tech. and big news — ebay updated its terms of service, meaning that sellers can no longer use paypal. also this week, a cyberattack hit the world's largest meat supplier. computer networks atjbs were hacked, temporarily shutting down some operations in australia, canada and the us. the ransomware attack could lead to shortages of meat or raise prices for consumers. a drone has filmed itself crashing into the lava flow of a volcano. it happened in the south—west of iceland, where youtube and drone pilotjoey helms tried capturing the fagradalsfjall volcano, which has been erupting since march. and finally, a not—at—all creepy robot which copies you. scientists at columbia university in new york used deep learning to teach robot ava to mimic the expressions of people around it. ava can express six basic emotions — anger, disgust, fear, joy, sadness and surprise. the aim of the technology is to build trust

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canberra's decision in 2018 to band chinese firm huawei from its 5g network did not go down well, butof covid—19 that really infuriated beijing. it imposed a range of tariffs on australian exports, including barley and wine, with shipments of iron ore, that key ingredient for chinese steelmakers, are so far unaffected. australia believes it's the victim of economic coercion. china's commerce ministry has come however, said that canberra needs to rectify its wrongdoings. and as china celebrates 100 years of communist party rule cub australia is wondering where this vital trading relationship heads to next. phil this vital trading relationship heads to next.— donald rumsfeld, one of the principal architects of the invasion of iraq in 2003, has died at the age of 88. he served as secretary of defence under president george w bush, and he played a leading role in promoting the bush administration's so—called "war on terror". 0ur north america editor jon sopel has more. military band plays donald rumsfeld served four presidents over five decades. hawkish in outlook, and a waspish personali

reunification park built by the young men and women of hanoi and dedicated to the idea that hanoi huawei and saigon were once the three centers of a single country and someday will again be part of a single vietnam. it's a fitting symbol of the love these people have for their land and culture. we leave tonight by car for high-fong in the surrounding area after a 24-hour stay. we'll leave tomorrow night for namdin the country's third largest city. like the vietnamese we must travel at night to avoid the bombers. quad set our schedule will be rushed because of the danger but that we will have an opportunity to see the countryside in wartime conditions. we drove across the wide flat area of the red river delta. past long straight dikes in canals and endless rice patties to the village of fuklok the village was small a square about a half mile on each side. there was that true adobe huts. in a village threshing floor full of rice on april 16th at 2:30 am fu clock was bombed by b-52 bombers. carpet bombing means that the bombs are dropped. so close together that the craters left by them are

in putting off technology to companies like huawei has accelerated focused on spending on those areas. haidi: speaking of global implications, we are awaiting this ppi from beijing. what are you watching out for? tom: 8.5%, as you say, the highest print in a long time. cpi will be more modest. 1.6%. what we are focused on is the run-up in commodity prices. officials have tried to use the rhetoric to kind of ease these price rises with some modest success in the last few weeks. goldman sachs, citibank, citigroup, saying that longer-term, that will not work. we will see to what extent the consumer price rise plays out in the its factory date prices and then it is a question of downstream versus upstream. upstream, be price rises have been felt strongly indeed. he saw in april a tick up. they have had to absorb the costs simply because the consumer here is not strong enough. there is not strong enough demand. they have not been able to pass those costs on. core cpi, if you strip out energy prices, that is going to be of interest as well to get a closer look and a closer gauge of the heal

. >> for the past nine years andy , purdy has been with huawei usa, chief technology officer, he is adepartment of la

now this new list has 59 companies, including existing names like huawei in china, but also adding someower corporation as well as another group have been added to that list. they are alleged to have military ties, according to washington. american ambassadors will be banned from buying or selling a publicly traded securities of them. the latest list comes into effect on the 2nd of august, as you said. china has said that it would retaliate, so as you say, tensions between the two economies not easing at all. ., , . finally — the future of finance, ora mad bubble about to burst spectacularly? whatever your views on bitcoin and its rivals — it's clear that cryptocurrencies are one of the most controversial subjects in the financial world at the moment. later today over 50,000 people will gather in miami for bitcoin 2021 — the biggest ever crypto conference — to be attended by the likes of twitter boss jack dorsey. regulation — crime — and the environmental impact of bitcoin mining are all going to be high on the agenda. david gerard is author of the book attack of the 50 foot blockchain'

we have heard the likes of huawei are getting into the farming.gi also has its own ag drone as well. how do you stand out among some of these big players now? justin: i think it is just the beginning. as we are trying to connect to the digital world, it is a very, very big market. i can say it is just the very beginning. we welcome all the players coming to the farmland to help farmers doing better farm work. as to competition, i think xag has spent seven years in the area. we have enough knowledge to turn ourselves not from drugmaker, to agricultural technology company. haslinda: justin, update us on your ipo plans. we hear that you are preparing for that and that may happen on china's stock market. justin: i can't say much about that. we are paring to raise more funds in the future. the market is growing very fast. also, a lot of challenges such as the global shortage for supply chain, also the pandemic. we need to prepare for the worst case scenario. haslinda: how much funds might you need for your expansion plan? justin: for the next two years

if you take a look at huawei, it made inroads in two infrastructure in europe.ake a look at costco, it bought a majority stake in a major port in greece. so it begs the question, how much nato can really do? >> united states had this problem around the world. and had many assets, and the solution was nationalization. the nation took away those assets are redefined them or text them. when you have an investment in europe -- or taxed them. when you have an investment in europe, you're vulnerable to european politics. the chinese are learning a lesson americans learned, having an asset does not mean you will be able to hold it, and that is the european option. they are not quick to use it and they're knocking to use it soon, but it is there. >> you wrote a note recently, george, about how nato or chinese competition, could strengthen nato, i was reading headlines about how they are seeking a toughened response to new high-tech threats. how do you see that all playing out? >> nobody wants to see china expand as a military power. united states is carrying a major bur

we updated our export controls to restrict the flow of technology for threats like huawei and there's always more to be done on the defensive side. at the center of gravity moves this congress to the offense of side where we have a host of bills making their way through congress all trying to address this national security supply chain vulnerability in one way or another from the chip funding to the usa telecommunications act, there's a lot of low hanging fruit that i'm hopeful will become law soon. we are off to a good start but there is more that needs to be done holistically about critical supply chains on the armed services committee, along with my co-chair, our task force is working in a bipartisan manner to look at the defense of the supply chain. the biden administration is this -- is conducting its own supply chain review. clearly we have reached peak supply chain and i don't think anyone has a silver bullet solution, but ideally we are all contribute in a small piece to the puzzle. i think that fact we are having this discussion -- col. venable: looks like we are having some