we are also grateful to ambassador hubbard for joining us. and ambassador harris for joining us in person. i want to acknowledge the leadership of jack prichard. this was a much smaller version over the course of the past 15 years, we've added a lot of pages. we have a book editor who has done a masterful job of filling in the gaps and writing about the major issues in the history of the relationship that cannot be covered through personal narratives. last i want to acknowledge and thank our moderator and my namesake, the distinguished nonresident fellow dan snyder he is moderating our distinguished panel. i cannot tell you how many times i was asked when i first arrived in seoul in the late 1980's whether i was the ambassadors son and how tempting it was to say yes in anticipation of being treated to assumptions meal but then i started to worry about if i got found out. with that out of the way, i want to turn it over to the real ambassadors son, dan snyder. >> thank you. i also benefited -- we were together at stanford as visiting fellows a

were stuffed with packages and of categories. pills were meant to be smuggled out of the country. hubbard kept going on to the factories, previous owners as it was built to make potato chips before it was seized by the sides. associates in 2018 since then, the site appears to have turned out kept the gun pills, named after a stimulant, 1st made in germany in the 19 sixty's, but was later just continued nickname to the poor man's cocaine. the underground version became popular across the middle east. a highly addictive drug the staves of hunger and sleep. but can have harmful side effects. the cap, the gun pills. we're heading in all sorts of different packages. even annapolis trouble fighters said they are eliminating stockpiles of the substance. the we wasn't really, it's bad for people to be the origin of mobile, but kept a gun was good business for the sod. richie generated estimated more than $2000000000.00 in annual profits for damascus. syria's new leaders say they want to put an end to the trade for a quick reminder of our top story, the size of georgians turn. i've to show the red

i boom hubbard, out gilani has dropped to date number associated with his job. his past end is now using his real name. i'll shut off is trying to bolster his legitimacy by presenting a more moderate public image series pro a column. it says it supports the people's will to build a new feature. for the a minute. i'll save ottoman is the middle east analyst at the brookings institute in washington. he gave us his assessment of the 1st few days since the full of the syrian president saw. i am cautiously optimistic, it's been quite striking how smoothly the very early days of this transition have gone in in syria a h to us and its partners. and the operation that over through assets are making all the right noises about responsiveness to the concerns of minorities. they're moving to maintain public order in damascus and other major cities. they have offered assurances to the other we, minority to christians, that they are safe, secure, and that their lives will not be interfered with during this transition. so from everything we've seen the, the 1st few days or wha

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university of michigan board of regents member sarah hubbard joins us now.ou're all elected there in michigan to be board of regents to be revisiting dei. that that's a big deal. of michigan as has one of the biggest programs, has prided itself in the past as being at the forefront of dei. if. >> yeah. we have a very large bureaucracy that's impacting our students and our faculty across the board. we really are taking a critical look at the programs and the spending at the university of michigan right now and want to better understand what metrics are, what the results we are getting out of that because we're really not seeing the needle moving related to diversity of thought in particular on campus, let alone diversity in other ways. so i've been asking a lot of questions since i was first elected to this board and and really believe that we need to do something differently here or, you know, really be focusing on our programs that are good for everybody that have need but could get admitted to the university. will: you bring up diversity of thought and tha

tom was a long time resident of hubbard, ohio, and an air force veteran who constantly sent his grandkidseting cards, by the way, not just for birthdays, because we participate in the spelling bee, because we learned to ride our bikes. and after tom passed in 2019, kristen, courtney, and marcy here started a mission to honor their papa by creating project tom.org. essentially, they would take any requests from all over the world to send a handwritten card to anyone who needed one, or wanted to send one to someone else. those cards could also be for anything the amount of. >> just because cards that we get is the highest amount that we get out of everything. >> well, a year later, project tom is still going strong and has expanded their projects. how are your hands? >> we plan ahead. >> they've especially upped their game during specific holidays. on valentine's day, they sent 1200 valentines day cards to nursing home residents, each attached with a candy that was one of their grandparents favorites. in september, they raised money to buy school supplies for a district in youngstown, ohio,

hubbard's big day, 152 yards and two scores. panthers win it 36-30, and that eliminated arizona from the playoff race. >>> seattle lost to minnesota, so the rams now lead the division with two games left. they host the seahawks in week 18. that could determine the nfc west champ. let's go back to miami. let's hear from ricky pearsall. >> and any idea on what happened out there? >> those are both on me. i just had to communicate to my teammate better, to the ref better. but yeah, those were definitely both on me. i've got to fix it up, and just get better. >> do you feel like the chemistry is getting better? >> yeah, for sure. i think the more we practice together, the more we throw to each other more. the trust is going to continue to get built. and it will be way more. >> what is the most challenging part about being out there today? you guys had some good plays, but then you kind of stuttered? >> yeah, the most challenging part is trying to overcome the penalties. we just kind of kept killing ourselves with. i think those two

nathan hubbard, nora franciotti. thank you so much to both of you. we're going to be watching.re going to have some conspiracy theories just like you, nora. thank you thank you. and the lead with jake tapper starts right now

who is also the commander of the nation's defense forces is now important of students to join in on hubbard. so house the elected parliament, the brutality of the fees is estimated to such an extent that protests is launching file was. i'm other project files directly. i police of the evening and i'm going to give you a good view of the fireworks that have been shown towards the police coming towards us running away you from coming to us. and we're gonna have to move as well, because you've already seen, you know, i was just following up on now the thing is we know we're going to need to okay, well we just got caught up completely and not to just to we've had to run down to it. so lots of people in the groups of protest is trying to help those who are u shaped by the 2 guys coming lined up for a special and a quick over our eyes to detroit, an aide with the branding. but my goodness, me getting cool back in not really reminds me of today's bucket power steering the other of us would. this was a pretty much an everyday events, but the moment we just got to say, so we shall see down here a lo

i said earlier this week, she hubbard, town c, reports us secretary of state met with protective presidents in ankara, a delicate moments on wednesday, us back kurdish forces. so they'd agreed to a cease fire with tuck is your back fights in syria could sofas and it's a region in the countries northeast have come under attack in the region. often most of the sides will oh, the helpful and chokes with the jordanian king. in october, lincoln said the goal of his trip to the region was to calm the different factions who now seek to benefit from the full of the serial regime. i think across the board when it comes to any actors who have real interest in syria. it's also really important that this time that we all try to make sure that we're not sparking any additional templates. however, blinking play down the on doing is really invasion and amex ation of portions of syria currently on the way when it comes to actions. that is real estate in the state of purpose of those actions really is, is to try to make sure that equipment is been abandoned by terrace extremes, etc. but we'll be talking and

will see hubbard, tennessee joins us now from washington. d. c. c. have. what can we make then on this latest occupation of the chinese state sponsored a cyber attack? and it's true. we do get them pretty regularly and because we can never really necessarily verify the veracity of all these these obligations. but obviously this one is making headlines today, monday in the us because the treasury center that is of the leadership of the senate banking committee. as it was in house to, in the sort of an occasion saying that based on the available indicators, the incidence is of an extreme intent to a china state sponsored advanced system press, abt act so, but in fact from the let's say what we understand is the treasury was notified on december the 8th, the 3rd party vendor, to the treasury, and somehow managed to get hacked itself. so that the leap, the proper security key about vendor use in order to have remote access to treasury work stations at was somehow got the heck is going to hold hold of that. i'll definitely stay with that. a available to access

she hubbard tons. the reports, the us secretary of state met with the target presidents in ankara at a delicate moment on wednesday, us back kurdish forces. so they'd agreed to assist 5 with truck is you back. flags is in syria, could sofas minutes of region in the countries northeast have come under attack in the immediate officer mazda, besides full o, be helpful, and talks with the jordanian king and uncle blinking set. the goal of his trip to the region was to calm the different factions who now seek to benefit from the full of the serial regime. i think across the board when it comes to any actors who have real interest in syria. it's also really important that this time that we all try to make sure that we're not sparking any additional templates. however, lincoln play down the on doing is really invasion and amec sation of portions of syria currently on the way when it comes to actions that is real estate. and the stated purpose of those actions really is to try to make sure that equipment is go

>> hubbard. into the end zone and a panthers victory with a touchdown in overtime. >> first and 10. another big run. there he goes! he's got wide open space. >> number 70. doing a nice job as an extra blocker. >> on the ground. still going. james cook takes it the distance! >> play action. stepping up. launching down field. and it is caught! >> kwik stop. daniels has an open man. coverage. touchdown! tie game! >> those were some of the biggest touchdowns from across the nfl yesterday. including one of 5 thrown by rookie quarterback daniels as he led the washington commanders to a comeback win over the philadelphia eagles. the eagles failing to clinch the nfc east after falling for the first time in 10 games as they played without quarterback jaelyn hurts for the majority of the matchup. hertz was injured on a run midway through the first quarter and later ruled out with a concussion. let's go to dallas now. the cowboys are hosting the tampa bay buccaneers on sunday night football. the cowboys are

100% are college educated, so well read, and really not what you think of some uneducated, mother hubbardll her kids. these are women like me, and like you who have made the decision, maybe because they are educated and because they have read widely, and they understand, like, what is actually the meaning of life and what can make you happy. >> i think people are looking for things that are hard, but soul nourishing, and motherhood certainly fits into that category. peachy kienan, thank you for joining us. >> thank you rachel. >> that's all we have for tonight, be sure to tune in to fox and friends we could, saturday and sunday at 6 a.m., hannity is up next. thank you for joining us. >> welcome to this special

you think of some uneducated, mother hubbard living in a barn with all her kids. these are women like me, and like you who have made the decision, maybe because they are educated and because they have read widely, and they understand, like, what is actually the meaning of life and what can make you happy. >> i think people are looking for things that are hard, but soul nourishing, and motherhood certainly fits into that category. peachy kienan, thank you for joining us. >> thank you rachel. >> that's all we have for tonight, be sure to tune in to fox and friends we could, saturday and sunday at 6 a.m., hannity is up next. thank you for joining us. >> welcome to this special edition of hannity. i'm kelly anne conway in for sean. i'd like to express my condolences to the family of former president jimmy carter, a.tonight coming up on the show, we'll check in with president biden who took precious time away from his last taxpayer funded vacation to commemorate the passing of president jimmy carter. we'll play biden's confusing and politically charged remarks straight

today, hubbard refused to answer questions about her stance on syria as she met with senators head of primary adversary? >> michael weiss, who has covered the war in syria, editor of the insider, a russia focused independent media outlet. it's good to have you here to make sense of all of this. we talk about who will acknowledge the brutality of the assad resume. this has not been a subtle resume. for folks who have not, since the use of weapons on his own people, in the intervening years can you elaborate on the darkness that has befallen the syrian puppy population under assad's rule? >> it is a totality it is a totalitarian regime-- upmost brutality. one of the nazi sadist, burner, on methods of torture, how to extract false confessions, how to brutalize a population, kill them, etc. etc. i started covering this when it was a protest movement in 2011, and the stories i was hearing at that time sort of defied belief. you wondered if people were perhaps inventing them, they were so atrocious. there was a story of a 13-year- old boy who was kidnapped by the syrian police, this is a 13

the merger of two adelante academies into one, but at a different physical campus and aptitude and hubbard elementaries or other academies will be redesigned. and then the cesar chavez early learning center will only serve pre-k students. going forward, the superintendent did say that the district wil also provide mental health and transportation resources for students who are changing schools. but still, this is a very emotional time for families. laura. yeah, definitely. and they've had to wait so long to find out. tough times. thank you chris. well, later today, san mateo county leaders are expected to take another significant step in their push to oust the embattled sheriff. today in the bay's barbara dale joins us live outside the government center in redwood city this morning. so bob, tell us what's expected to happen today. well, later today, the san mateo county board of supervisors will meet at the county building here in redwood city. this is part of their planned meeting for a second vote to try to plan for an ouster of e san mateo county sheriff, christina corpus. you might rec

that's sidney hubbard. on joanna guys. real sco with the sports is 20 full time grand slam champion, no bike joke of which brings in the new yet i'm the new tennis season with the winning presence of the chains up for the 1st from simon, australia will have some pain in the next hour the palestinians in garza are freezing to death. at least 6 babies and one adults have died of hypothermia in the past week. that includes a 20 jailed, newborn plummeting, temperature is and heavy rains are worsening. the crisis goes. as civil defense says it's received hundreds of distrust. schools from helpless palestinians is tense, have flooded, hadn't been damaged. we would displace from beta here north of the gaza strip. we will give an attempt, but it's not up to the task. it can protect us from the freezing winter cold or the rain every now and then the 10th floods with water. no one is helping us or is even bothering to think of our plight. good. looking on lives, how we're living. my son was injured, his belly was ripped open. we don

aptitude and hubbard academies will be redesigned, and cesar chavez early learning will serve now just pre-k students only. that's year after next. now, the superintendent did say that the district will provide mental health and transportation resources for students who are changing schools. laura. big changes for those families. thank you. chris. well, just into our newsroom, three mountain climbers, including one from the bay area, are missing after never returning from a climb in new zealand. two of the missing hikers are american, including 50 year old carlos romero. he is listed as a certified guide from livermore by the american mountain guides association. also missing. a 56 year old man from colorado and an unidentified canadian hiker. the three arrived on saturday to climb aoraki, the nation's tallest peak and a popular destination for advanced climbers. they never arrived for their flight home yesterday, and the search has been temporarily halted due to severe weather. later today, san mateo county leaders are expected to take another significant step in their push to oust an

nathan hubbard, nora franciotti. thank you so much to both of you. we're going to be watching. we're going to have some conspiracy theories just like you, nora. thank you thank you. and the lead with jake tapper starts right now this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to the lead. i'm jake tapper, and we do have some breaking news for you in our national lead right now. that manhunt for the murderer who could be anywhere. the new york police department's top brass just told cnn shimon prokupecz moments ago that the suspect in the murder of the ceo of unitedhealthcare has likely left new york city. they cited video of the alleged suspected shooter entering a port authority bus terminal after the wednesday morning shooting and not leaving the terminal. take a listen eventually, we have him on 86th street and columbus avenue walking. >> he loses the bike and then from there we have him in a taxi cab, and the taxi cab takes him up to 178th street and broadway which, as we know, is a port authority bus center. those busses are interstate busses. that's why we believe he left. he may h

the sovereignty of independents of our country are not negotiable, not to see hubbard's hands. he has more from washington, a raft through us, the reception in phoenix, arizona of donald trump, once again vowed to make america great again for a combination of mass people, patients tax cuts, drilling as much oil as possible. i'm stuffing was that he says would never over gone where he presidents over the last 4 years. as far as his economic message is concerned, we have seen a new element. he is still plunging to play economic hardball with us to allies the u. canada, mexico. but over the last few days and you element has emerged and has truth, social and social media, post iron mountain to speech. he has complaining about how much power was charging us commercial of naval shipping from transiting through the panama canal between the atlantic and pacific oceans and violent america will take it back. if things don't change, you've got to treat us fairly and they haven't treated those fairly as the principles, both moral and legal of this. my dad them is gesture of giving or not f

really not what you think of some like uneducated, you know, living in with, you know, mother hubbard, living in like a barn with all her kids. these are these are women like me and like you who have made the decision, maybe because there are educated and because they have read widely and they understand, like what is actually the meaning of life and what can make you happy. >> yeah. >> i think people are looking for things that are hard but soul nourishing. and motherhood certainly fits into that category. peachy keen. thanks for joining us. >> thank you rachel. >> that's all we have for tonight. be sure to tune in to fox and friends weekend, saturday and sunday at 6 a.m. hannity is up next. thanks for joining us. >> welcome to this special edition of hannity. i'm kellyanne conway in for sean. i'd like to express my condolences to the family of former president jimmy carter on his passing. and i'd like to tell my friend of decades, sean hannity, happy birthday. congratulations and best wishes on your new engagement to ainsley earhart. tonight, coming up on the show, we'll check in wi

in october, 72 year old stephen hubbard was sentenced to almost seven years for allegedly fighting as mercenary for ukraine, and in july, robert woodland was sentenced to more than 12 years for drug related charges. >> meanwhile, in turkey, local authorities have ruled out sabotage after a deadly blast at an explosives and ammunition factory in the northwestern part of the country. at least 11 people were killed and seven others injured, but that number could go up. officials say they're still trying to work out how many people were inside of the factory at the time of the accident. also, in a break from tradition, buckingham palace says king charles will not record his annual christmas message from the royal residence. instead, the king will deliver tomorrow's message from a church with links to the medical community. the change comes as the 76 year old monarch continues to battle cancer. last week, a palace source told cnn the king's treatment has, quote, been moving in a positive direction and will continue in the new year. and just moments ago, we actually saw the kickoff of a rel

all of this explains why former bush economist glenn hubbard said it's just mathematically impossible to find $2 trillion. so again investors think spending comes down. but probably not to the degree that musk has suggested yeah, we'll have to see what they come up with. >> also, how they explain the accounting, because you can do a lot of tricks in smoking. you can add things and claim things. we'll have to wait and see betty, thank you very much. all right. party girls and non party girls revealing new allegations against trump nominee pete hegseth we've got new details on how senators in charge of his confirmation are reacting and this morning, 70% of the country seeing extremely cold temperatures, new reporting on who is most at risk as a new snowstorm begins to take shape can't fool myself it was the most exciting time in the world. >> his life has extremely joyful moments and some really difficult moments. >> you only come across an artist like luther vandross once in a lifetime. >> luther never too much new year's day on still congested nope. >> uh-oh. >> new mucinex two. in on

katherine hubbard, as early as preschool, just adored animals, and she knew, even when she was 6 yearsher purpose in life was to protect animals. she would catch butterflies and put them in her hand, and whisper to them, tell your friends that i am kind, then she'd let them go. she made business cards -- she's 6 -- she made business cards for katherine's animal shelter, because she knew that's what they was going to do. she was going to save animals as an adult. chase gowalski was a jock. he loved to run, swim, bike. so much that that year that he died, when he was 6 years old, he asked his parents to find him a triathlon to compete in. he's 6. you wonder -- he wanted to train for a triathlon. he ran in that triathlon, swam and biked in it, and he won that age group. that kind of indomitable spirit, the willingness to tackle challenges so big, that's a recipe for success in life. what would chase gowalski be getting ready to do right now? what big challenges would he see as an opportunity to confront what a difference might he be making in the world, having displayed those really rare

tyler hubbard has got an incredible story.ust that. >> yeah. >> where were you, by the way? >> we were in austin, texas. yeah. >> well, if you guys want to listen to the podcast, search for "making space with hoda kotb" wherever you get your podcasts. >> all right. well-done. >> let's check it out. the fab five are in the house. those on "queer eye." they will take us and their makeover magic all the way to vegas. what happens in vegas -- no. >> stays in vegas. i guess it doesn't. >>> every morning "today" is your home for the holidays. tomorrow it's lisa kudrow and jamie lee curtis. >> we're ready for it. >> tomorrow, only on "today." ♪ >>> ♪ >>> we are back! 8:30 on a wednesday morning. some well-deserved camera time to our crowd. a little rainy this morning at times. but they stuck it out. thank y'all for being re. by the way, a friendly reminder, christmas is two weeks away. if you would like to help, you can find all of the details by scanning that qr code. you can head to today.com. how is the crowd doing? are we good? [

. >> hubbard, dancing into the end zone.s victory with a touchdown in overtime. >> first and ten. another big run. there he goes. he's got wide open space. achane. >> on the ground, cook has a hole, still going. james cook takes it the distance. >> play action, stepping up. launching downfield. and it is caught! >> quick snap, flag is in the secondary. daniels had an open man. blown coverage. zacchaeus, touchdown. tie game! >> pressure, showing the pressure. here it comes in the back. jordan lewis got there. mayfield pitches it forward. a gain out of that. the ball taken away. >> those were some of the biggest plays from across the nfl yesterday, including the dallas cowboys' game-sealing turnover to beat the buccaneers on sunday night football over on nbc. >>> let's now bring in the host of "pablo torre finds out" on meadowlark media, pablo torre, and his sweater. >> that's right. >> and espn commentator paul finebaum joins us as well. let's start with the nfl. we'll get to the underwhelming college football playoff in a mi

nathan hubbard says her three and a half hour concert raises expectations of a show pushing artists toas. theater chains are looking to the concert film released by amc and grossed $261 million worldwide. sources tell me that studio marketing chiefs are striving for the blockbuster performance that comes when fans dress up for barbie and wicked. the payoff for a watercooler moment is one reason that disney is focusing on making fewer, but having bigger releases. also, becky, the eras tour shows the undeniable value of female consumers. >> yes. that is the take away. i gotten into this. i didn't consider the idea how this changed concerts for every artist out there rethinking how you do things. with the industry, the media industry fragmented right now, does it make it harder to have a global superstar like taylor swift? >> reporter: it does and doesn't. on the one hand, there is a fragmented media dry, but artists pop up ver the world. one thing i was hearing from sources as i talked to yesterday, is taylor swift is a bigger global phenomenon than madonna. she is touring in more countr

housing with the vantage point is katie hubbard, executive vice president of capital markets for the. they have roughly $1.4 billion worth of land under management. the operate in retail come industrial and commercial sent there is. so good to have you here. how are you, and how is the u.s. housing market doing, and what indication do you have a what is to come in 2025? katie: thank you so much for having me. i am doing well, happy new year. we are definitely seeing a positive outlook for the housing market in spite of some challenges, as your previous guest spoke about. there is geopolitical uncertainty also affecting the housing market but still a positive outlook both on new-home sales and existing home sales in 2025. vonnie: give us some of those bright spots pretty even though the data has been coming in sort of mixed to good, it is difficult to know why housing is holding up so well in the face of such high mortgage rates. katie: thank you so much. i would say the demand is there. in spite of the affordability challenges and elevated mortgage rates that continue to stay in the