hubert ivory and we were married in fresno and. >> your dad did it? >> my dad did it.so many ministers in the wedding. everything possible but that was wonderful. >> let's see the family. there's your two daughters. >> that's with rocking lost with my youngest daughter and that's the first time i shared my painting publicly. >> wonderful. how old are they now? >> 30 and 26. . >> wow. [laughter]. >> they're not little girls anymore. [laughter]. >> i remember when they were little girls. look at that. >> that's right. >> that's amazing. thank you. we'll have another segment and we'll look forward to one more form she has for us and one more picture that i think is important for us to see. ♪ [ music ] >> reverend donna ivory we talk about creating a new in the segment of her book and i wanted her to read the form that i think would be so important to this christmas season which we look for the new, the christ child and dancing with pain and the story also. this poem expresses that. share with us. >> thank you and this poem goes with the painting dancing with pain that has