but the poll on cnn showed huckaby and -- donald trump leading, and what -- >> romney is at 11, huckaby and trump at 19. is romney is the front-runner, he's the weakest republican front-runner we've ever seen, even weaker than john mccain. this health care thing is an albatross. there's no good way to explain it. has all the same aspects every obama care, mandate, subsidies, exchange. he has to work himself up to saying it's an experiment that failed, without being too explicit about it. [everyone talking at once] >> holds on, please! what about the birth of this. >> totally ridiculous. but he is speaking to a segment of the conservative id out there. he's taking things that conservatives believe and stating them in an an inflammatory way that connects in a certain manner. but i don't believe he'll run. >> if people -- there's no certificate, but there is a record and the record is in the dependths of some city hall and they photograph it, where does it go from there? [everyone talking at once] >> it goes economic nationalism, john. one thing trump has going for him, he's an american fi