s 2155 would also enhance hud's sufficient sufficiency program by expanding it to more hud assistant famts and participants to obtain job training, child care services as they save up to achieve financial dependence. can you talk about how this would help them to achieve economic stability and mobility? >> yes. this is the exactly what we need to be doing. obviously, by a mall ga mating the programs, sufficient sufficiency programs for both the public housing and the section 8 program, a lot of the efficiency and savings has occurred. and we can move people toward better education, jobs, decreasing debt, increasing savings, and really making them much more a part of the american dream. so that's why i'm such a strong supporter of self sufficiency acts. and in the past, one of the things that we have been guilty of, and i say we collectively as a government, is we tend to pull the support from people when they begin to climb the ladder of self sufficiency. and we are acutely aware of that. and we'll work with you all to make sure that we are not sending the wrong messages to people. >

to hud. so do you think delaying the 2015 hud rule for several more years has helped reduce housing discrimination? >> first of all, we were petition by dozens of cities and municipalities to infect to lead because the cost between $800,000 to follow the regulations put in place and they had to hire two or three people. >> let me remind you, this is a question about following the law. it clearly says affirmatively further fair housing. it doesn't say cut back because you're concerned about compliance costs. i'm very concerned about compliance costs. when you previously described your real concern is this was a failed socialist experiment the obama administration had housing vouchers about how it was calculated it was the fair read rule. the obama administration collected mountains of data. when you took over you had to delay this for another two years. did you think delaying the effective rule of this would delay housing discrimination? >> we didn't delay. we said those municipalities we had

the hud data is number of people in families. so when we do the point in time count, it's reported as the number of individuals who are in families, however, when we talk about placements, we're talking about a family unit that is being placed without regard for the number of individuals. the other thing to make this just a little more confusing, the school district has -- the u.s. department of education has a different definition of family homelessness than hud does. they count unsheltered families, families in shelter and that's what hud counts, but they also count families in sros and families doubled up not by choice. hurray, u.s. department of education. city of san francisco, when we look at the u.s. department of education, definition, the problem with this is until we have our data systems up and running, it will be another year before we have good data on this, we're forced to pull data together and look ott our point in time count and extrapolate what is going on and the issue is, when they count a family as homeless,

now, this data here is looking at the data that we get from hud. its jurisdictions are managed by the federal government in what is called continuums of care and these cross county boundaries. on the previous slide we looked just at cities. here we're looking at counties and the subpopulation. these exact percentages might differ slightly than what is in the san francisco point in time count, and that's because san francisco has a more rigorous counting method than required by hud. this gives comparison how we are with other cities in the four major categories. we're higher than some of our peer jurisdictions. when looking at services and strategies, this is something you're going to want to look at. for veterans, we're about the same as other jurisdictions. homeless people and families were a lot lower than our peer jurisdictions in this category. and traditional aged youth, we're about double of what our peers are. so just to generally take a step back. homelessness is one of the areas where the public and policymakers and departments are interes

hud built the ghettos of america. had been in, i mean, my ex-wife now, she grew up in public housing and i know a lot of great people who, physicians, attorneys, that came out of public housing. so the housing -- >> just so you know, i came out of public housing. >> i'm setting you up, bro. i know that. i know that. and i think because of that experience you have the empathy of what you need to turn the whole system around. hud, i'm looking at the regulations, and they talked about, fha regs, maintaining neighborhood stability, which are the black folk, okay? so it is an education. but, i'm convinced that secretary romney was probably, and i knew about half of the secretaries over the years. i worked with jack kemp was a good friend. jim lynn, we were on the city council together. excuse me. so, i'm sorry, everybody wanted to do the right thing but very few people did. secretary romney i think went way out, went as far as he could go and i respect his legacy but the rank-and-file people, they were committed to the sta

hud was a very agency and condition.t going to say it was a racist agency but culturally it was racist agency. [laughter] hud built the ghettos of america. i have been in -- i mean, my ex-wife grew up in public housing. i know a lot of great people physicians and attorneys that came out of public housing so the housing -- >> i came out of public housing. [laughter] >> i'm setting you up. >> i know that. [laughter] >> and because of that experience you have the of what you need to turn all system around. i'm looking at the regulations and they talk about the fha maintaining neighborhood stability which no black okay? it's an education but i'm convinced that secretary romney was probably and i knew about half of the secretaries over the years and i worked with jack kemper is a good friend and -- everybody wanted to do the right thing but very few people did. secretary romney, i think, went way out and as far as he could go and i respect his legacy but the people were committed to the status quo and hud is the top bureaucra

understood his investments better to know he did need to disclose them. >> has he been a critic of hud he been a critic of the foreclosure crisis that the country went through in the wake of the -- >> he was. he was a fierce critic of hud, obama, criticizing obama administration for the number and amount of foreclosures they presumably oversaw during that period while he was benefiting from that. so a lot of people pointing out that a contradiction as well it's a big number. $90 million. >> $90 million worth of investment properties. thank you. >>> the google parent alphabet gets ready to release earnings after the bell today the company making big changes in howity reports and we'll tell you everything you need to kw about that headline story coming right up . >>> google parent alphabet said to report first quarter earnings after closing bell class a shares trading lower about half a percent this afternoon, 1,072.30. over past 12 months the stock is up 25% analyst anthony clement ai maintaining outperform on the stock, $1300 price target. we welcome him now to "power lunch. anthony, g

before ben carson was the hud secretary. he should have disclosed it. i have a subset of $90 million worth of loans from hud and i'm interviewing ben carson. but i think it's relatively minor. >> i agree with you. >> you mentioned the kushner companies. i want to talk about the president's son-in-law, his family is struggling to stay afloat after the 666 fifth avenue deal now they are reportedly making a $250 million offer to buy a luxury park avenue building. where do you think all of this money is coming from? where is this money coming from. >> i wrote a book about new york real estate. i'm looking into kushner heavily now. my sources in that world tell me that we shun make too much of this. that you know, when you send -- fir of all, these kinds of letters go out all the time. and they don't mean anything. until actually a deal is closed, it really means nothing. and most of the time, these kind of letters go out in secret because the last thing you want is for competitors to come in and offer more. so i would, you know,

. >>> hud wants millions of low income households to pay more rent. hud secretary ben carson with changes to the assistance on wednesday. households pay 30% of gross income in rent. the new plan kicks it up to 35% and triples rent payments. the plan affects 2 million working americans who rely on rental assistance. it does not affect the elderly or disabled. carson says this proposal will stem the rising cost of housing assistance for taxpayers. advocates say many low income americans work and hud cannot overhaul the rules on its own. it requiring congressional approval. this keeps with the trump world view. push requirements on federal assistance. since then, the government expanded work requirements for those are medicaid and food stamps. >>> more than a dozen murders and more than 50 rapes and police sold a notorious cold case from the 1970s. >> for the 51 ladies who were brutally raped in those crime scenes. sleep better tonight. he isn't coming through the window. >> more on the golden state killer case and an arrest next. ♪ ♪ bring all your apps

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the idea is that he is getting some kind of special relationship with had you hud be is friends withriendly to the obama administration. so that is a little bit of an unfair characterization. i have studied this program for 30 years and it is one of the most corrupt programs. >> the hud loan program? >> you are not blaming hannity for it. >> here is my other point. i have known shawn for a long time. so i got to know him very well. he does have a lot of wealth. he has made a lot of money. but i do take his word for it that he believed that he was helping. what is the purpose of these programs, it is to bring redevelopment into these areas. >> i am not going to impugn sean hannity. the reality is that it is not just about the hud program, also the idea that he is criticizing the foreclosure rate. getting discounted price are for for closed property, and shaun han hannity rushes in. >> i don't understand how that is a problem. >> go ahead. >> i have never understood this argument that people like donald trump who bought foreclosed property. that is a good businessman. you buy low. >> n

list and the housing story, and he just came up with the idea about who was the sean donovan and the hud folks, and i can talk more about that. but let me tell you. it does take 2 persynergy. let me tell you -- raise your hand if you're on staff for ccdc. i know joanna is the project manager, and she'll get to speak at the end. but i know the residents, they had faith. they trusted us. without the residents, you can't do nothing in this city. so it's a trust and the collaboration, that they did all the work. joanna led, our project manager, you get special kudos. i know eric wong wants it, too. special contractor. so much love and energy, and san francisco's leading the way for the whole country, i think. and what are we going to do with the public housing? but for now, i know the mayor's in a rush, and we are so thankful that he's present here, and i'm sure -- oh, the mic doesn't go that high. let's see. give it up for mayor farrell, come on! >> all right. thanks, everyone. see, we can get it high enough. you know, they were just showing me -- take a look at that brochure and take a loo

if i told you all even two years ago that we had the opportunity to have a physician as head of hud, you all would say that would be fantastic, but we are not taking advantage of it. we are not engaging hud on a national level and on a local level as public health advocates to the degree that we could. dr. carson believes in it. he's got initiative out there trying to promote housing as health but we need to help folks understand again how to actually make that happen, how to create healthy housing. because individuals just are asked me with that. when i was in indiana we had a lead situation where it was a hud housing complex, and once upon a time someone thought it was a good idea to build a housing complex on top of an old lead smelting facility. if we had engaged hud and it engaged public health, because again is both ways, if we've done a better job with that the maybe we could have avoided some of these unfortunate situations. .. and again we've got to be at the table and also, engaging folks from a business point of view. one of the things i want to do as attorney general is c

secretary of housing and urban development better known as hud he made the proposal not long after being taken to task by congress for ordering a thirty one thousand dollars dining set for his office he says the changes will simplify rent calculations and help control costs by raising the family monthly rent contribution from thirty percent of income to thirty five percent of income before tax the cap for the poorest families would rise from fifty dollars a month to about one hundred fifty three times higher according to hud that will affect around seven hundred twelve thousand households the changes will impact tenants not only in public housing complexes like this one but also those who receive subsidies for privately owned apartments the trump administration says their goal is to give people an incentive to get higher paying jobs but housing advocates say it's the higher paying jobs that are lacking not the incentive to work. our public housing residents here in new york city the majority of households have a working member this is not the problem the problem is that with work or stat

hud helped him get two mortgages worth $18 million. and insured national housing act program. in the e-mail to the newspaper, hannity's lawyer said most people keep personal financial issues private. fox news did not respond to a request for comment. >>> michael bloomberg is writing a $4.5 million check. president trump pulled out of the paris climate accord. the former new york city mayor and billionaire tells cbs he will take america's share of the deal. >> america made a commitment and as an american and if the government is not going to do it, we have a responsibility. i'm able to do it. yes, i'll send a check. >> bloomberg hopes the president will change his mind and until then, he will fund the deal in the government's place. >> he called president trump a reasonably successful real estate developer. he was quick to point out this is a different profession. he is not a business person. he doesn't know how to manage big organizations. >> he is not the first person who said he's a real estate developer. that is different. >>> "early start" continues now with the latest on

if i told you all, even two years ago that we had the opportunity to have a physician as head of hud, you all would say, that would be fantastic! but we aren't taking advantage of it. we aren't engaging hud on a national level and on a local level as public health advocates to the degree that we could. dr. carson believes in it. he has got initiatives out there trying to promote housing as health but we need to help folks understand again, how to actually make that happen. how to create healthy housing. individuals are just not familiar with that. we had a lead situation where it was a hud housing comex and once upon a time someone thought it was a good idea to build a housing complex on top of a old lead smelting facility. if we had engaged hud and they had engaged public health, because again it is both ways, if we had done a better job of that maybe we could have avoided some of these unfortunate situations. really taking advantage of that. the other thing, i talked about riding the wave of the opioid epidemic. we know the number one predictor whether you have recovery is permanent

i told you all even two years ago that we had the opportunity to have a physician as the head of hud, you'd say that's fantastic that we aren't taking advantage of it. we aren't engaging hud on a national and local level as public advocates to the degree that we could. doctor carson believes in it, we've got initiatives out there trying to promote housing and health but we need to help folks understand how to make that happen, how to create healthy housing because individuals just aren't familiar with that. when i was in indiana we had a situation where it was a hud housing complex and once upon a time someone thought it was a good idea to build a housing complex on top of an old lead facility. it we had engaged hud and they had engaged public health, we've done a better job of that then maybe we could have avoided some of these unfortunate situations so really taking advantage of that. the other thing, i thought about riding the wave of the opioid. we know the number one predictor two whether or not you're going to be successful is having permanent housing. folks understand that. we

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, we have 24 of our existing residents in that program, and a number of our existing households are hud vash households, so they already have va case management, but we will be bringing more services to the property, and we're still working on that. but there is a 25:1 case manager to resident ratio in the hut vas 1h, at least initially, and we have a 25:1 ratio for the work that we do ourselves. >> okay. and it sounds like the va related services are provided by sources to plow share. are there other services that would be provided by other entities? >> no, not at this site. there will be hud vash case workers. we have space for them to meet with residents on-site. we provide -- we sort of hold the clinical envelope for the island. we have the program manager -- we're there 24-7, our staff are on call 24-7. the va is there during business hours. it works well together the partnership. >> that sounds great. i'm certainly very supportive of any supportive services that you can build into the program. it's critically important to the success of this development to have on-site services an

so worried about the department of veteran affairs and hud raising rent on poor families, i think as far as his style this is going to help him. >> there were a lot of politics -- >> you're being find. that's where he feels comfortable talking about politics. he rarely likes to dig into policy because he's wrong about them and those are got ya moments. but we're playing a different game. >> that's an acute observe evaluation. thank you both for being with us. >>> coming up, first china, then south korea, how likely is it that donald trump is going to be the next foreign official to meet with the leader that he called little rocketman? this is the ocean. just listen. (vo) there's so much we want to show her. we needed a car that would last long enough to see it all. (avo) subaru outback. ninety eight percent are still on the road after 10 years. come on mom, let's go! fthere's flonase sensimist.f up around pets. it relieves all your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist. with expedia, you ca

our hud secretary, for example, had zero experience in public housing.might be a good brain surgeon, but he had no relevant experience. we just had an appropriations hearing for him that highlighted his lack of relevant experience. >> the president says heights your fault, you democrats are the obstructionists. that's why his nominees -- the open slots aren't being filled faster. >> i will remind you, alisyn, the last nominee for v.a. secretary under this administration got a 100-0 vote in the senate. he had is significant experience running a very large health care system before. he had experience in the v.a. as well. it's not that we're obstructionists. i think we are insisting when people who have no relevant qualifications are nominated for senior positions like secretary of education, secretary of hud, we would like there to be a full confirmation process so we know what we're taking up. it is part of our advise. >> do you think dr. jackson should withdraw his nomination? >> ihink that is something he's going to have to decide. thorough aressive con

so worried about the department of veteran affairs and hud raising rent on poor families, i think as as his style this is going to help him. >> there were a lot of politics -- >> you're being find. that's where he feels comfortable talking about politics. he rarely likes to dig into policy because he's wrong about them and those are got ya moments. but we're playing a different game. >> that's an acute observe evaluation. thank you both for being with us. >>> coming up, fst china, then south korea, how likely is it that donald trumis going to be the next foreign official to meet with the leader that he called little rocketman? ♪ over... hey, want to try it? ok here you go... over... under... hey whoa, pop, pop... your shoe's untied. ♪ ensure he's well taken care of, even as you build your own plans for retirement. see how lincoln can help protect your savings from the impact of long-term care expenses at lincolnfinancial.com. ♪ with expedia you could book a flight, hotel, car and activity all in one place. ♪ sometimes you need an expert. i got it. and sometimes those experts need exp

excellent job of evaluating their own success and responding to reports that we require of them, or hud requires, but i don't think the city has done a good job of creating a culture of accountability or a system in which we're able to understand what is happening with each individual, each provider and program. this is not the fault of the nonprofit organizations, this is the fault of the city. and this is one of the reasons why mayor lee created a single department, so we can have a sing database, set specific goals we want to achieve. and also to make it easier for the nonprofit partners asking to use our data system, rather than filling out reports for us and just distracting them from doing the important work. we should be able to run the reports ourselves. we don't need to ask them for information we have in the system. we're years out from doing that, but it is important part of the strategy. >> supervisor cohen: when they submit an rfp, they're responding to a request for proposal, i'm sure there is some tool you're using to evaluate the organization? >> absolutely and i think t

secretary of housing and urban development better known as hud he made the proposal not long after being taken to task by congress for ordering a thirty one thousand dollars dining set for his office but he says the changes will simplify rent calculations and help control costs by raising the family monthly rent contribution from thirty percent of income to thirty five percent of income before tax the cap for the poorest families would rise from fifty dollars a month to about one hundred fifty three times higher according to hud that will affect around seven hundred twelve thousand households the changes will impact tenants not only in public housing complexes like this one but also those who receive subsidies for privately owned apartments the trumpet ministration says their goal is to give people an incentive to get higher paying jobs but housing advocates say it's the higher paying jobs that are lacking not the incentive to work. our public housing residents here in new york city the majority of households have a working member this is not the problem the problem is that with work com

. >>> the "washington post" reports hud secretary ben carson is proposing raising the lowe housing incomean would increase the rent paid by public housing residents to 35% of household income up from 30%. it would also make it easier for housing authorities to impose work requirements. elderly and disabled tenants would be exempt. the plan has to be approved by congress. >>> the "atlanta journal-constitution" reports a passenger with multiple sclerosis reports employees tied the woman to her wheelchair. when she arrived earlier this month, delta didn't have the proper straps to help her sit up. her son says employees tied her to a regular wheelchair with a dirty blanket. he said it caused bruises and left his mother crying. delta says it regretd regretds perception its service left on the customers. >>> well, still to come, stepping into the future. a new generation of walking robots and what they are doing to help humans. strong chemo can put you at risk of serious infection, which could lead to hospitalizations. in a key study, neulasta reduced the risk of infection from 17% to 1%, a 94

for example, hud funding. cgdbr funding is a fantastic piece of funding that is much needed by a community. but what happens is from the announcement, then there's got to be a six-month period to write the federal register. there is a three-month period to write the action plan on how you're going to use that funding. and then there is another month on top of that to make sure that we all agree, and then the money doesn't hit for a year. >> wow. two years later. >> so it makes it very difficult for a governor to understand, well, i got to use fema money for this and these projects based on cash flow. here is what i think i can hit on my recovery priorities. and i got to wait for this hud funding to hit. and then there is federal highway funding. there is sba funding. >> so where do we go to get the overview of that? how do we get that? >> well, we start with my agency and let me point you in the right direction. >> great that would be helpful to be able to get. again, there is a big fight here typically on com

hud makes an announcement. one of the largest grant that is the agency's proactively pupt putt down, but it's confuse tog a governor on how to thut youth liz fema, hud and funding that comes from these others to do the graeltest good. we've got a will the of work to do the greatest good and build more mitigation and recovery efforts as well. we also, i'm asking for authorities to increase state management costs. so it's not just the grants that we need to provide to state and local governments to kick start programs. but the management costs is probably the most beneficial tool they can have. right now, for example, on a disaster, we provide 3.4% in management costs. based on the total of public stance dollars that we obligate. ed. that needs to rise to 12%. that gives a state an account to hire labor or firms to help with staff augmentation or expertise they don't have. because i believe that prepa preparedness is efb's responsibility from the citizens to the governor's to the state's. as threats change, we ca

something they believed to be legal because it had been legal for a long time under guide issued by hud. without notice cf popped in what they consider to be violation. i happen to think that is wrong and that enforcement by regulation that i talk about. you should be allowed to the law is for your accused of breaking. >> and there was only a few dozen press releases "after words". >> again, i didn't follow -- >> i know that they certainly were eager after they would get these consent to go out and use those two pleasant things. i do want to also take a minute to allow you to talk about the affected researchers in the economic departments of what you have been dealing with over at the bureau. >> it was a practice that i was made aware of in the last couple of these and economist are allowed to take up the% of the time. >> did you just a half of their time? half of their taxpayer sponsored time. >> yes, sir to do research which on its face isn't that objectionable i guess but if you realize there is no requirement that the research be connected to the actual job that the bureau the. >> s

you know -- are gf12, heart attack ss or hud this . is a former director they are not political act office calling balls or stieks. am he if he? had >> why department he come out and say, you know, this is how it went down and i want to, in the he went through his pal to go to the reporter he did not want to be known. now, lock at you, he had to defendant if under dog star anyoning. he was caught. he is not a great humanitarian. . ical in almost key leadership of this endeavour he contradicted himself. there is stuff in the record. it is a mess. he is an absolutely mess. it is hurtful and cannot be more damaging. ment coming out at this time it demeans the office of the director to issue a book that talks about the size of the president's hands and prostitutes in moscow. he is drag trg metropolitan and women become to the political mail strung that don't combefsh. he put them well and rack them >> i don't know the three of you limp i know you a little bit. i can't imagine any of the three of you. we will. may the sdripgsz of the meetin

unfortunately what a lot of these programs do and i can't speak for all the details of the hud program if you look at the details it seems like there's a potential for that. of able-bodied people who are getting practically free housing for so for some folks there may not be a motivation to get out of that situation. i think what secretary carson is trying to do is not pulled the ride out many one that is trying to encourage people to say listen you need to be in the workforce. something that's good for you and good for the country and that's the right approach. unfortunately i've seen it first-hand. welfare can pull people in a keep them down rather than being what it should be a trampoline backing -- jumping people back into the workforce. >> it's a grave trap for so many folks. want to share a statement from the housing coalition. they say this proposal would make it harder for struggling families to get ahead by cutting them off from the housing services that make it possible for them to maintain jobs. what are your thoughts on this hadley? >> within the broader context i agree wit

hud makes an announcement the other day it's one of the largest, you know, grants that the agency is proactively put down, but it's confusing to a governor on how they utilize fema fund, hud funding and funding that comes from these others to do the greatest good. i think we have a lot of work to do to streamline our efforts to do the greatest good and ultimately build more mitigation and recovery efforts as well. we also -- i'm asking for authorities to increase state management cost. so it's not just the grants that we need to provide to state and local governments to kick start programs, but the management cost is probably the most beneficial tool that they can have. right now, for example, on a disaster we provide them 3.34% in management cost based on the total of public assistance dollars that we obligated. that number needs to rise to 12% and that gives a state the ability to hire their own force account labor or hire consulting firms to help them with staff augmentation or technical expertise they don't currently have because i believe that preparedness is everybody's respons