the hud data is number of people in families. so when we do the point in time count, it's reported as the number of individuals who are in families, however, when we talk about placements, we're talking about a family unit that is being placed without regard for the number of individuals. the other thing to make this just a little more confusing, the school district has -- the u.s. department of education has a different definition of family homelessness than hud does. they count unsheltered families, families in shelter and that's what hud counts, but they also count families in sros and families doubled up not by choice. hurray, u.s. department of education. city of san francisco, when we look at the u.s. department of education, definition, the problem with this is until we have our data systems up and running, it will be another year before we have good data on this, we're forced to pull data together and look ott our point in time count and extrapolate what is going on and the issue is, when they count a family as homeless,

now, this data here is looking at the data that we get from hud. its jurisdictions are managed by the federal government in what is called continuums of care and these cross county boundaries. on the previous slide we looked just at cities. here we're looking at counties and the subpopulation. these exact percentages might differ slightly than what is in the san francisco point in time count, and that's because san francisco has a more rigorous counting method than required by hud. this gives comparison how we are with other cities in the four major categories. we're higher than some of our peer jurisdictions. when looking at services and strategies, this is something you're going to want to look at. for veterans, we're about the same as other jurisdictions. homeless people and families were a lot lower than our peer jurisdictions in this category. and traditional aged youth, we're about double of what our peers are. so just to generally take a step back. homelessness is one of the areas where the public and policymakers and departments are interes

now, this data here is looking at the data that we get from hud. its jurisdictions are managed by the federal government in what is called continuums of care and these cross county boundaries. on the previous slide we looked just at cities. here we're looking at counties and the subpopulation. these exact percentages might differ slightly than what is in the san francisco pointn

. >> you won't even look at the data that's come into hud. that's not a commitment to ending housing discrimination. >> senator reed. >> thank you. mr. chairman, mr. secretary, in our several conversations before your nomination and otherwise you made the point about homelessness. we owe a great deal to our veterans, and i think it's discouraging to all of us when we see them without adequate housing, and too many of them are in that situation. the counsel on homelessness is completing a report soon which we've requested and would you update the committee on your efforts you've taken directly to address this issue of veteran homelessness? >> one percent of our population protect the other 99% of us. i think we owe a great deal to our veterans, and the hud veterans program has been responsible for 47% reduction in homelessness for veterans. we will continue to support that program, and enhance it. also many of our other homeless programs effect veterans. we've asked for a record amount of money for homeless programs this year including a conti