the federal government, as you remember. i was housing and urban development secretary. i am a big believer, and hudid exactly this, disaster recovery with fema. the federal government does this very well. i was there for the clinton administration, and we did do this very well. that's where the resources are. that's where you have the military, the workforce, the supplies. you have the purchasing power. fema doing it, if the federal government really empowers them, that is a game changer. but then they have to do it, and we've seen it done well. and we've seen it done poorly. but i can't tell a company you must manufacture ventilators. if i could, i would have. >> but fema can, right? >> i can't do that as a governor. >> but the president's power -- with the power of the presidency can order a company to do this? >> yes. and they should. they should. yesterday. >> all right. well, i will leave you and leave the end of the interview with that. governor cuomo, thanks for your blunt talk with us. you're right. that's all people want right now. straightforward truth no matter how bad it is. thank you,