air force,ern fellow at the hudson institute, and he, too, is a distinguished china expert. he is spent time as bomber pilot and has been inside of china as a defense at day shay and his most recent book is called stealth war, how china took over while america's elite slept. a little bit about myself. as i was messengered i'm a national security correspondent for the washington times, author of eight books. mow most book is deceiving the sky, inside communist china's drive for global supremacy, and it's kind of a followon to a book i wrote back in 2000, 20 years ago, called the china threat, and as a result of that, i gained quite a reputation. back in 2006, the chinese news

hudson institute. a distinguished defense and policy adviser, former high ranking government official and author of numerous books and reports on china. i know dish can tell you definitively that mike has really changed the u.s. military's thinking back a number of years ago he was sent to china to collect chinese military writeings and was the first american official who reveal what the chinese were telling themselves behind the scenes was quite different than what they were saying in public but how they wanted to be friend with the world, and it really had a tremendous impact on understanding the military's view of the people's republic of china. his book is a landmark book, most recent book is the hundred year marathon: china's secret strategy to replace america as global super power. this book is really a fascinating look and is probably one of the only places in public where you'll find information about chinese defectors, people from within the chinese communist party system who reveal what is go

currently senior fellow and director of the chinese strategy at the hands - - hudson institute. distinguish policy advisor. i can tell you definitively it has changed the us military's thinking only a number of years ago. the first american official that revealed what they were telling themselves militarily is quite different than how they wanted to be friends in the world. and then to have a tremendous impact on understanding the military his book is a landmark book the 100 year marathon. is one of the only places with the chinese defectors. and then reveal what is going on. and a senior fellow at the hudson institute and as a distinguished china expert to spend time as a bomber pilot and has been inside of china as a defense attachÉ to track down the inside story of china. his book is called stealth war. i'm national security correspondent for the washington times and author of eight books my most recent book is called deceiving the sky. it is a follow-on to a book i wrote 20 years ago called the china threat. and then i gained quite a reputation back in 2006 when the chinese

vice president penn's address this directly in his speech at hudson institute.the coming collapse of china brought for many months the number one book in america on china. the coming collapse of china. very popular author. i like him very much. his name is gordon chang. i said gordon, don't predict the year that china will collapse in your book. leave some flexibility. no, it's going to be 2012 pretty put 2012 in the book. the book came out into thousand one. vice president pence in his speech at hudson said since 2001 china's gdp their economic strength has grown by how much? ten times. was an economy collapse? no. so in 2012 foreign policy magazine asked gordon give us an article, when is china going to collapse? the feeling that china was going to collapse is very important that means it's not going to be a problem very long. so gordon wrote the article. they said give us when it will collapse. i would've said maybe general spalding could say 2050 or who knows. gordon wrote again 2013, one more year. this point of view infects a lot of thinking about china. b

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we hope to host her at the hudson institute in washington d.c.o the guardian where she made a number of very important points. one that 70% of the communist party of china -- that's about 60 million people -- want reforms, do not like the shu jinping dictatorship, do not like this president for life deal and having the chinese constitution ignored. so she also talked about xi jinping's role in the coronavirus and how it got away from him. so this is devastating, to have this kind of comment come from a real senior insider at the central committee party school. she sounds, frankly, a little bit like president trump or secretary pompeo in their criticism of the chinese communist party. lou: but let's turn to the issue of, as we've just been showing the uss ronald reagan in the south china sea with its strike group. this is, this is getting a little more serious. it's also a very impressive display of power and force in the region. what is your expectation? >> well, i think we've seen since june the duel of the carrier exercises. the chinese are not

michael pillsbury, director of the center for chinese strategy at the hudson institute.lways, for time. i want to go, first, to what you make of the increasing military activity by the pla in the south china sea. >> lou, i think it's a mistake for some people to dismiss the chinese activities as just bluff or rhetoric. china has a long history, about 50, 60 years of using force for psychological shock effect on their neighbors. if they try that on president trump and on american units, i think it could lead to really serious reactions. so i'm quite concerned about these increasing chinese exercises. lou: and i want to turn to also an important report that you produced for the hudson institute on president trump's china strategy. give us a sense of your findings and thoughts as well as where we can all go to read up on it. >> well, at the hudson web site, you just dial in guide to trump china strategy. what'll come up is 200 statements from the president himself to all of his administration on what i think is a very clear, coherent china policy. each department puts this

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michael pillsbury, director of the center for chinese strategy at the hudson institute., it's great to see you. and the president responding to my question about the complexity of the relationship between the united states and china now. it's clear that he has a personal and profound disappointment that he carries as a result of what the chinese government and marley xi jinping -- particularly xi jinping did in january. >> i think that's right, lou. i think he knows are well that the 150,000 dead americans cannot be brought back by anything china does. but china can help us in the economic recovery if they would comply with this trade deal and make the massive purchases that they promised. that's probably a very important thing the president's done to improve this video -- approve this video conversation august 15th between the highest levels of the two sides. that's where we'll find out whether the president has to terminate the trade deal and really condemn china as a negotiating party, or the chinese make their purchases, will they help our recovery. i think that's wh

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there are just 15 countries that recognize taiwan was dying when on wednesday was addressing the hudson institute that's a conservative think tank in washington and she had many themes to her through her addressed but i think the central one were her comments about hong kong she said that the world had been saddened to see that the beacon of freedom of being extinguished in hong kong she said that the ties between hong kong and taiwan go back many years and she also said and this was her only real reference to china without naming china she said that while some countries while the world has been distracted by covert 19 other countries have been targeting democracies around the world now why does all this matter well you know at the moment taiwan is a country which is basically regarded by china as a breakaway province to be taken back from by force if necessary president xi jinping had warned just a year ago that the people of taiwan had better accept that one day sooner rather than later they will be reunified with the motherland and the premier of china leak a chunk addressed the national peopl

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joining us now is michael pillsbury who is the head of the china institute at the hudson institute.have you with us. and let's kind of figure out what's going on here. we've got -- we're running over $100 billion deficit with china in the first six months of the year. if that were to be doubled over, it'd be an improvement on the previous year, but not what we were looking for. what's going on? >> well, that's right, lou. and as you recall, there's a mandatory six month review after the deal was signed. the president has pointed out the virus and the death of the americans and our economy has eclipsed the trade deal. so this seems to be a success. the chinese are still making purchases. they haven't walked out, they haven't violated rules. but the president has really changed -- lou: they just, they just killed 175,000 americans, as you alluded to. i mean, i'm talking about the fact they haven't cut their deals, today continue to disrupt -- they continue to disrupt the united states at every turn. this is an all-out, this is a war. this is no longer a cold war. we have been attacked

i want to bring in hudson institute senior fellow rebecca heinrichs. you and i exchanged emails. was an interesting article in the japan times about a more collaborative effort. it is clear china is lashing out. they're using their waste and really pressing europeans, another warning today to nokia and ericsson, if you don't, if you do anything against huawei we'll stop you from doing other business as well. what is the solution here? >> yeah that, article you referenced by eric sayers, an analyst talking about what the united states needs to continue to do to push back on china. this is not going to be a short-term thing we can do. we are in this for the long haul. he was talking about having collectively resiliency. economic resiliency between the united states and like-minded allies and partners so we can bolster our economies to make sure we are not going to be exploited and vulnerable to economic coercion which is something that the chinese communist party is increasingly inclined to do. now the trump administration i think, there is enormous credit for ushering in a seismic

mike pillsbury, director of the center for chinese strategy at the hudson institute..u. not to get caught up in a cold war with the united states, between the united states and china. two missiles fired by the pla in the south china sea. who do they think they are and what are they playing at? >> well, they're still desperate to stop president trump's program to prevent china from dominating the world. the president has been succeeding. in europe he got the british and others to not buy huawei. in the south china sea, pompeo issued the charge that china's activities are unlawful. so china is now desperate to strike back somehow. i call it bluster. these are not effective measures, these are signs the president's strategy is working quite well. lou: the strategy does not include retribution, it does not include in any way punishment for what they, xi jinping decided to do to this cup. the list -- to this country. the list goes on. and the idea that firm rhetoric is somehow i counterpoint to a lethal, deadly virus unking -- unleashed by the chinese communist party on th

discussion is a brilliant scholar and doctor, visiting fellow here at hoover senior fellow at the hudson institute. and as deputy national security adviser for strategy and trump administration, nadia was instrumental in effecting when i think is the most significant shift in american foreign policy since the end of the cold war. that is the recognition that china is a strategic rival in the policies of the chinese communist party also very significant threat not just to the united states or interest in the region and globally. but all three in an open society. quite to have you here to facilitate this discussion. and he kicked it all off, we have a congressman mike gallagher who has done a wonderful job serving his country from the eighth district of wisconsin. buyer to be a congressman which his duties there on capitol hill in 2016. he served this country is distinction is that united states marine corps officer. and a distinguished equitable scholar as well as a graduate of princeton. masters and phd in international relations of georgetown university. michael ball just say, i fond memories of

there are just 15 countries that recognize taiwan was dying when on wednesday was addressing the hudson institute that's a conservative think tank in washington and she had many themes to her addressed but i think the central one were her comments about hong kong she said that the world had been saddened to see that the beacon of freedom of being extinguished in hong kong she said that the ties between hong kong and taiwan go back many years and she also said and this was their only real reference to china without naming china she said that while some countries well the world has been distracted by co that 19 other countries have been targeting democracies around the world now why does all this matter well you know at the moment taiwan is a country which is basically regarded by china as a breakaway province to be taken back from by force if necessary president xi jinping had warned just a year ago that the people of taiwan had better accept that one day sooner rather than later they will be reunified with the motherland and the premier of china leak a chunk addressed the national people's congre

on all of that now on monday sorry later today on wednesday she's going to be addressing the hudson institute in washington that is a conservative think tank and she's going to be explaining more about how she's going to deal with the challenges the many challenges that taiwan now faces because like hong kong taiwan 5 finds itself in a sense in the middle of a deepening cold war between china and the united states of course very much with the united states hong kong of course ideologically now very much with china so zion when is a leader who wants to keep the spotlight shining on why well of course we have the presidential election in the united states in just a few months time and she wants to ensure the taiwan remains a sort of foreign policy priority no matter which candidate is successful in that election and the reason is that of course the united states has a defense pact with taiwan it's obligated to come to taiwan's defense if it's attacked by china and she. wants to make sure that no matter who wins will stick to that pledge how much impact have events in hong kong had in taiwan giv

as a senior fellow at the hudson institute. his deputy national security advisor for strategy the trump administration, nadia was instrumental in what i think was probably the most significant shift in foreign-policy since the end of the cold war. and that is the recognition that china is a strategic rival and that the policies of the chinese commonest party pose a significant threat not just to the united states and our region globally but really all three into open society. nadia's great to have you to facilitate this discussion. and to kick it all off, we have congressman mike at gallagher. he was just done a wonderful job serving his country as a congressman from the eighth district of congress prior to being a congressman which he began his duties there on capitol hill in 2016, he served his country with distinction as united states marine corps officer. mike has a distinguished background as a scholar. he is a graduate of princeton, he has a masters and phd in international relations in georgetown university. mike i will

>> welcome to the hudson institute were here to talk about the kill chain. chris is a former staff director for the senate armed services committee and the senior policy advisor for senator john mccain and held other positions in the government and right now working privately for those companies that build for homeland security thank you for being with us today. >> it's great to be here. what led you to do this book? on the armed services committee as a policy advisor. and that that genesis. >> it's a great question. but it was two things. these were a product of the many years working on these issues thinking of this stuff on a day-to-day basis but the first was the growing realization that we had a problem and that they didn't appreciate to lose competitive advantage and from the operational standpoint but it was mostly the sense there wasn't the urgency to get after that problem and in some respects how far behind the problem we are. so the thinking i had been doing what are we doing about this? and those that are presented by a competitor like china with