i'm huell howser. get ready for an adventure. right now, we're right off highway 14 in kern county and look at all of this behind me. i've been hearin' about this place, readin' about this place, seein' pictures of this place for years now, but this is my first opportunity to actually spend some time here and it is overwhelming. and if you think this is beautiful, look over here. this is otherworldly. it's spectacular. it's magnificent. and ron, you're the superintendent of this place. where are we right now? >> we are at red cliffs natural preserve in red rock canyon state park, and this red rock canyon state park is 27,000 acres of beautiful cliffs that you see here in the background. >> well, now, when you say "beautiful cliffs," that's the understatement. what are we lookin' at? why is it this color? and i assume this is why red rock canyon got its name. >> that is correct, huell. the area here has a transverse fault called the garlock fault that comes off the sierra nevadas and tehachapi mountains, and this area was covered

americans for democratic action, our communications director karen trader, ben wise and mary von u hueller. how to make the tax system fair has been and will be a hotly debated topic this whole election year. with the nation facing record budget deficits at the same time as slow economic growth the question of how to raise the revenue to address those is an extremely urgent one. next monday the senate is going to be considering the so-called buffet will which would raise taxes on wealthy people who have a lot of investment income. earlier this year the house voted on a budget, the ryan budget that moves in the opposite direction. spurred by a phenomenon as divergent as the occupy movement and warren buffett's secretary tax rates the question do should pay how much has come to the floor of the public discussion. that is why we are here today. we will address this issue with an all-star cast, dream team or any other team you want to use for people who know what they're talking about. assembled here. at the end of their discussion we will accept questions from the audience. we have a handle