we'll get an answer from representative huelskamp. beverly is a -- guest: it's illegal to say merry christmas in congress. i will take that -- the football that lucy holds is usually spending cuts. i'm afraid we are going to take a swing at this fiscal cliff and the football sitting there and we're not going to make any spending cuts. we have a spending problem in washington, d.c., not rieff knew problem. republican today are going to be -- we are never going to get our deficit under control. and we're going to never get our debt under control. and that's clearly the facts of the matter. again, you're right on jobs. why we're not talking about jobs. what i believe and what most americans believe is it's not washington that creates job. they actually get in the way. small business men and women who are being harmed by these tax increases are the ones that create most of the jobs in a growing economy. host: this tweet for you, congressman. guest: i think every candidate running for office said i am not going to washington to get along.

congressman huelskamp, let me start with you. you were quoted saying, in fact, you believe this was directly related to votes you had given. you brought this up in conference yesterday. what were you told in conference? >> well, we were ignored. i asked for a list of the votes by which they used to make this decision and indeed it a list, a litmus test. and it wasn't provided yet. i think many of my colleagues are outraged because the vote is say democrat. i mean, we don't turn that over to anybody in washington and clearly i noted against the debt deal. i voted against a none of these budgets, i voted against these bills that didn't solve our spending problem. and that's where i've been most critical, where we are headed in washington. but that's why i ran. my folks sent me up to change washington before it changes me and now we get punished by getting taken off committees important to kansas. >> you are saying this is a result of your conservatism and this is only happening. i also read tonight the speaker said, hey, there migh

let me play again congressman tim huelskamp on the fiscal cliff.e was on talking about fiscal cliff and gun control which was meant of a single reaction of no. let's play it. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point. please answer sir, yes or no. >> no. >> then how do you negotiate with somebody who comes from your point of view. it's purely entitlements. >> mr. buffet is not going to pay a dime in taxes. >> i'm not talking about mr. buffet. >> how do we solve this fiscal crisis without taking revenue. >> taxes doesn't solve the crisis. that's the misleading statement. >> how do the democrats and the president negotiate with that part of the republican party that seems to have a great amount of influence over spoker boehner so much so they humiliated him last night. >> they don't. they can't negotiate. they are so far apart. their plans don't look alike. not even shared bullet points. what they have to do and this is a long shot especially given the holidays coming up, you have to bring members back from spending christmas and hanukkah wit

he tried to punish members like tim huelskamp and one skill that a sometimes a speaker has and we saws with nancy pelosi and we saw this in 2009 and 2010 is actually fear. they don't fear congressman boehner. they don't fear him at all if they go break their own way and that is one of the reasons why you end up having people who seem to be revolting like congressman huelskamp. >> one other thing that a speaker does not have or even a minority leader anymore is earmarks which were these targeted spending gifts in effect to a house number that could be persuasive. >> right. the carrots and the sticks. >> yes. >> thank you very much. lynn and mark. we'll talk to you later this hour. stick around. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up, it's election day in egypt and we'll get a live report from cairo and how the constitution has polarized that nation. plus ben affleck on capitol hill for good and what the actor is saying for now and not saying about a possible run for senate. ♪ ♪ ♪ copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. a

representative tim huelskamp.ost of our talk this morning has been on newtown and potential changes to a gun laws. before we move into the fiscal issues, what is your take on the current mood in the country and the potential mood in congress on changing the gun laws? guest: peter, it's a tragic situation. i have a for our children 17 and under, including a 6-year-old -- four children. so it's pretty close to home. the mood i see in congress, i hope that we don't move in haste and do things we might regret. i hope we let folks mourn and we will look at that. i think it's an individual problem. we have mental illness issues tied into this that are separate, but do impact the situation, obviously. most of my constituents, i don't think i have had anyone to call into my office to say that we should get changes in federal gun laws. host: what is your rating? guest: i have a 100% rating. and i'm a gun owner. i have an 11-year-old and 6- year-old son. we went hunting during pheasant season. it's important that parents tr

congressman huelskamp, mulvaney and kucinich.r your presence on the show. >> thank you. liz: while the world is watching the clock closely while we face the fiscal cliff deadline, wilbur ross says there is looming deadline that could cause the u.s. to face a greek-style debt crisis. he joins us next liz: let's face it. we're down to the wire. just hours from falling off the fiscal cliff if no deal is reached. right now a deal does not seem likely. even if they came out said, hey, news flash, it is here. not enough time to vote on it. will u.s. economy fall back into recession? either way what is the smart money doing? where are they investing? joining me now, billionaire investor wilbur ross. ceo and investor. >> you're welcome. >> will there be a deal of any kind and what does it really mean for the markets? >> what i'm worried about they make a deal but won't be a sensible deal. that it will kind of put some sort of a permanent cap as to the level at which the bush tax cuts are repealed, extend for some short period unemploymen

phrase from "catcher in the rye." [ speaking in other language ] after watching that interview with huelskamp nothing has changed. >> i didn't realize there were people in congress who went there with completely fixed ideas and totally unwilling to compromise. >> well, we are in a divided government, in a constitutional republic. james madison, our founding fathers gave it to us. that's what you work in. >> yay, pensacola. >> one more reason why you need to come to pensacola, to florida right now. this weather is horrible. >> go to pensacola. you'll be glad you did. mika? >> it's been a wonderful year. chris cillizza is on the rundown. >> i need the fix. the fix is next. the fix is in for chuck todd straight ahead. have a great one. >>> house of blues. speaker boehner's plan b gets busted by his own members. now everyone is leaving town for christmas. will there be a big new year's resolution for congress? jersey sure. one of the nation's most high profile mayors says he wants to go to washington. is cory booker a shoe-in to be the next senator from new jersey? and one week after the tragedy

what does the party's response need to be when you have extremist like republican congressman tim huelskamp around and accusing the president of politicizing the tragedy like he did on "morning joe." >> i think that and wayne lapier lapierre's reaction saying this countries needs to be an armed camp, i don't think this is a credible argument. i think the nra has more than shot itself in its own foot. i think it's response represents a tipping point here. i agree with everything that toure just said, but a majority of the public wants very, very significant new gun laws. in fact, a cnn poll a couple days ago said a majority of the public actually wants major restrictions on gun control, 6 in 10 major restrictions. 6 in 10 want assault weapons. i think you have to keep in mind here we've had a silent majority that's only starting to become very active now. 30 gun homicides a day. as we were going on air today, another mass homicide in pennsylvania where at least four people as we know it are dead. 30 a day. 200 a week. 11,000 a year. that's the equivalent of a jumbo jet airliner going down ev

. >> kansas congressman tim huelskamp one of the four republicans stripped of his committee chair explainedcked to the speaker today on "morning joe." >> i disagreed with john boehner, actually caving on tax. he went over to the white house over the weekend and said we'll raise the debt ceiling for a year and take a lever out of the hands of republicans but he did that without the support of the conference as we found out. >> sherman was there for what he calls behind-the-scenes gop meltdown. jake, i'm sure this didn't go the way boehner wanted it to, but it seems there might be an upshot to this. he's either unwittingly or by design shown everyone this is his hard reality, his caucus will not vote for a tax hike and if they do they want significant spending reduction. he's done all he can with this reality. isn't the ball back in the president's court now? >> it is to a degree, but they still have to pass something. you have to remember that. key go the president and this is what you alluded to. he can go president and say look i can't pass a million dollar threshold how can i get your $25

look at four republican members who were recently kicked off their committees, justin amash, huelskampdavid schweikert, and walter jones were booted from the house financial services committee. all four of these men have a history of voting against boehner and the house republican leadership. it looks like they have one thing in common, he's too right for boehner. >> i think the real problem for boehner is he's playing a risky game in the sense that people are starting to whisper that in these negotiations he actually is not being tough enough, that he should be out there saying that this president is addicted to spending. he needs an intervention, and this is the fight right now. instead, we're starting to see this inner fight within the republican party. if these negotiations don't go right, you will see the tea party explode again. you will see fiscal conservatives outraged, and so this is kind of a high risk game, i believe, for boehner right now. >> is there any deal that wouldn't explode the tea party? >> well, yeah. >> what would be the deal? >> the deal that wouldn't explode it

the others were tim huelskamp. the gop lead ership might think they have silenced conservatives but removing me and others is a vindictive move and a sure sign that the gop establishment can not handle disagreement. almost immediately conservative groups lashed out. in a statement, congressman schweikert is free of the last remnants of leverage against them, referring to the other two members of congress that were also stripped of committee assignments. the founder and chairman dick armey resigned yesterday. this is a clear attempt on the part of the republican leadership to punish those in washington who vote the way they promised their constituents they would. conservative blogger eric erickson on his blog writing on the same day john boehner, eric cantor and kevin mccarthy punished those for standing up for their convictions sold out their own convictions. erickson wasn't the only 0 group. calling it an $800 billion tax hike. the most conservative media outlets have been in boehner's camp, conservative organizat

there was a statement that came out from tim huelskamp saying the republican leadership wasn't in controlot of difficulty leading this group. it's really a matter of on him trying to find the consensus and moving that forward rather than setting an agenda. >> 20 guys who would not budge under any circumstances. it's remarkable. boehner seems to abide by it. i've talked to gop aides. do you think now in just these few days before the deadline, boehner, if there were to deal a deal would say, all right, i mitt go with something ta gets 40, 50, 60 gop members? >> i think the signal from boehner in saying the ball is is in the senate's court is in the senate passes something, if mitch mcconnell and the republicans, enough of them agree to get something passed to send it over to the house, he will be in a bad position to not bring it to the floor. he likely will bring it to the floor. and we saw this with the democrats sometimes. nancy pelosi bringing war funding bills to the house floor during the bush administration. not because she loved the idea of continuing the wars in afghanistan and ir

we are again, taking concrete >> brown: some republican members, such as tim huelskamp of kansas, still strong objections. >> i do not support plan b. apparently it was amended late last night. i still do not support it. point being, there is a pretty big tax increase still in there. and it's always been a long principle of mine as well as most in the republican party that we don't raise taxes and we look at the spending side. >> brown: but when floor debate began this afternoon, the leadership lined up republicans who supported the measure. >> mr. speaker, this is the right medicine for 99.8% of americans to prevent them from seeing their taxes go up on january 1st. and it gives us an opportunity in the next session of congress to provide comprehensive tax reform that will simplify our tax code. >> brown: on the other side of the aisle, democrats, like gary peters of michigan, said the fine print in the g.o.p. plan does real harm. >> christmas is a time of giving, but sadly republicans are taking. taking food off the table from millions of american families that are struggling in these

luke, congressman huelskamp has issued this statement. gop leadership might think they have silenced conservatives but removing me and others from key committees only confirms our conservative convictions. is this a sure sign that speaker boehner's offer to the president has fallen very flat along severe conservatives? >> reporter: well, it's two issues, martin. those specific individuals speaker boehner removed them because, quote, unquote, they haven't been team players. on individual issues the gop leadership has felt they have gone too far to the right and voiced too much opposition -- >> hang on a second, luke. we just had two years of the greatest and finest obstruction that we've ever seen from republicans in the house. how have they not been team players? they have played brilliantly? >> reporter: according to the gop loeadership, they were not n line enough, they were part of caucuses that voted against any potential deal and it was too public for their taste. in terms of the fiscal cliff offer that the gop offered yesterday, a l

here's, then, the quandary, the morale dilemma, congressman huelskamp. for the republicans, it was interesting when speaker boehner brought up plan b and in the house they said we aren't going to go along with it. we made a promise not to raise taxes and address the spending issues. in principle pell it's the right thing. now it will come back at some point, will the republicans hold the line on the principles that they ran on or do you expect that maybe many of them will cave? could me i think the american people would like principled leadership. does that exist? >> i think it does. the house acted. we acted on august is 11th and last week we rejected a proposal from our leadership that would have gone where the president wants to go and raise taxes on certain -- certain folks. but we have acted. the senate has not acted. they haven't acted for 1,337 days on a budget. they haven't acted on months on this issue. we knew the end of the year was coming. we knew taxes would go up if they did nothing and here we see harry reid demanding the house do somethin

let's see if that's what happened to republican congressman from kansas, representative tim huelskampnning columnist for "the washington post," eugene robinson. tim, i've been through this before, as you probably know, and i could never understand why, in my case, they would always go after the conservatives that represented the values that they claimed to support when they were running for speaker, and then they decided to punish somebody like yourself because you don't want to vote for a budget that balances in 2040. i mean, if democrats put that type of budget on the floor, it would kill them. >> we would. and i'm a conservative, and i make no bones about it. my constituents are very conservative as well, and they've been so frustrated that leadership in the house right now, the speaker has been talking about tax increases. that's all we've been talking about. you know, but clearly, i mean, the numbers are very clear, it's a spending problem. i mean, we could raise taxes on the rich. if we did, that's a few days worth of spending, but that's been the frustration. there's been very

tim huelskamp will join us to talk about the latest on negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff. he was one of four gop members of two committees. they said it was retribution for their voting records. and they look at what options the administration has to tighten gun-control laws. with or without congressional action. our guest will be david ingram, the justice department correspondent for reuters. "washington journal" is live on c-span everyday at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> her first experience was to come in at different ways than every other family here. it is interesting because after dad was sworn in, we went and@p@ took a picture photo of the family behind the oval office desk. that night, we didn't get to move into the white house. nixon had left so quickly and unexpectedly, they left their daughter and son-in-law to pack all of their clothes and belongings. it literally took seven or eight days. we had to go back to our little house in alexandria, virginia, suburbia, the neighborhood we were surrounded with the secret service. and i will never forget that night mom was cooki

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tim huelskamp from kansas represents 70% of the state. the member from that district has been on the ag committee for like -- since there's been an ag committee, since kansas has been a state, 150 or whatever it is. it's been a long, long time. and he gets kicked off that committee and oh, by the way he has a ph.d. in ag policy. it make noes sense to me. so i think it's wrong and unfortunate and hopefully it won't happen again. and hopefully there's a way to remedy it for the parties. >> i too think it's very unfortunate that members were removed from their committees. one of the things, as a steering committee member, i fought to get more r.s.c. members on key committees. but beyond that i've talked for years not just through this campaign for r.s.c. chairman, it was a plank of my campaign for r.s.c. chairman to get more r.s.c. members on the steering committee. and that's something i've talked about for a number of years. but talked about that specifically as part of the campaign running, that i want to formulate a larger block of r.s.c