hugh burroughs, our cohost. i was at a retreat in tahoe with my methodist man from from the fairfield church. and while i was there, hugh burroughs emailed me and said he he wanted to do the next program on spiritual retreats. p p do not know that i was on a spiritual retreat. he was going to host the program this morning morning but had to go out of town. yes me to do this. i'm ded to have is the first guest, tom from the jesuit center retreat. >> tell us a little bit more. >> >> it was founded back in 1925 d 1925 and the jesuits at santa clara university, which was sana clara college back then, decided decided they wanted to have a place where at that time, men could go on retreat. it was not until the 1960s when women could could join. it was february 7, the first mass was celebrated at at the retreat house in the one building that was there, which was a house and the house still stands and that is where my offices. since then, literally thousands and thousands of pe come treaand th starond they nclude shortl