hugh burrows are producer and co- host. i was at a retreat two weeks ago in tahoe with my methodist men from the fairfield church. while i was there hugh burrows emailed me and he said he wanted to do the next program on spiritual retreats. he did not know that i was at a spiritual retreat, and in fact he was going to host the program this morning, but he had to go out of town. so he asked me to do it. i'm delighted to have as our first guest, dr. thomas power, over the jesuit center retreat, great to have you tom. >> nice to be hit. >> tell us about the retreat. >> the place was founded back in 1925 and the jesuits at santa clara university, which was santa clara college back then, decided they wanted have a place where, at that time, men could go on retreat. it wasn't until the 1960s that women started coming. in february 7th, 1925, first mass was celebrated at the retreat house in the one building that was there, which was a house, and the house still stands which is where my office is. >> fantastic. >> since then, liter