and hugh hefner is my enemy. >> is hef your enemy? set you up tonight. >> i'm more in sympathy than perhaps the girls realize -- >> women. >> i'm sorry. >> women. yes. i'm 35. >> than the ladies realize. i use "girls" referring to women of all ages. >> you should stop. >> they came on, i would say, to gut hugh hefner. >> the day you are willing to come out with a cotton tail attached to your rear end -- >> women had so much to talk about because the dialogue on so many of our issues was controlled by men. >> there are some of you who reject men altogether. they won't sit in the same room with a man if they can avoid it. are you two of those ladies? >> we think there's going to be a struggle. we don't think that men are going to give up their power and privilege easily. >> the women's movement, the sexual revelation and the gay liberation movement all had their origins before the '70s. but the '70s are when americans had to make sense of them in their daily lives and in their institutions and communities. >> women's liberation is only