and msnbc contributor michelle goldberg and conservative radio host and msnbc political analyst hugh hewitt. now hugh, moments ago we got a statement from the white house press secretary stephanie grisham about the second whistle-blower. it reads, "quote, it doesn't matter how many people decide to call themselves whistle-blowers about the same telephone call the president already made public. it doesn't change the fact that he has done nothing wrong. you and all of the defense of the white house and those that are saying there's nothing here, people seem to disregard it was the president's inspector general, the one he selected that said there is an urgency here and there is some credibility here for some concern. the democrats didn't create this. >> no, they didn't create it. and good evening, al. good to talk to you as always. >> good to talk to you. >> i think the transcript of the phone call is everything people need to make their own conclusion. i judge it to be insignificant. now i would like to see the transcript of thursday's hearing at the house intelligence committee that went on

so hugh hewitt is saying quid pro quos are no problem here. aaron, it's evolving. >> i think the hewitt tweet is a good example of where these defenses are trending in the direction of the ridiculous. i mean, the idea that governments engage in quid pro quos with one another, of course they do. anytime there's an exchange or an agreement, that's technically a quid pro quo. that has never been the question here. it's always been understood that military aid was withheld for a reason, that maybe a meeting was withheld for a reason. the question is whether that reason is corruption, whether this was a personal favor for the president that was being tied to these various investigations. the other thing that i think is important here is that as we saw in those clips a big reason why republicans are focusing on the process here is because many of the things they have said in defense of the president like no quid pro quo, eventually we get evidence that makes those defenses look ratherre looking might come out after bill taylor, after tim morris that

i'm from texas, and i did hear you on hugh hewitt. >> oh, good. [laughter] >> but anyway, i was curious with chuck coulson becoming a christian after watergate if he had contact with nixon. and the other one was i think i'm right in nixon and carter came to the iran contra hearings, and whoever was speaking said that carter was kind of all over the place, not organized, but nixon had it -- and that has stuck with me so many years, that he was a brilliant man, very organized in his thinking. do you have anything like that in the book? >> so on the coulson question first, they did remain friendly. coulson remained a defender of nixon to the very end. of course, he was pretty preoccupied with his prison ministry. but there is some relationship in that's documented in the book. the iran contra hearing fascinating, and i write quite a bit about this in the book because nixon had a unique perspective on scandal x. he -- i don't know if this is the exact story that you're referring to, but it's in the book where he is delivering a speech to republican se

we have a wonderful panel for you to hear from tonight. , i wouldn comes up like to introduce hugh hewitt representing the richard nixon foundation. hugh is president of the nixon foundation, and has been teaching constitutional law in chaffin college of law school since 1995. you will recognize him as a frequent guest on many tv news networks and programs. he has written extensively for the new york times, the wall street journal and the los angeles times. you will be very familiar with him as a host of a nationally syndicated radio program. he served for nearly six years in the reagan and administration and a variety of posts, including assistant counsel to the white house and special assistant to two attorney general. following his remarks in a brief video presentation, our panels will join us here for tonight's program. those of you on the side of the room, no worries. the podium will be removed so you have a clear shot of our panelists. i can't end without a little self promotion. our shop is open until 8:30 tonight. it is right at the top of the ramp from the door you came in. every

politico reports that zuckerberg met with tucker carlson and conservative radio host hugh hewitt behind closed doors. zuckerberg says he meets with lots of people across a spectrum on lots of different issues. >>> imagine being a passenger on this cruise ship. you could almost touch the walls. this canal is 79 feet across, the ship is 74 feet wide. prices for the 25-day sailing trip start at more than $5,500 a person. for 25 days? you get a really unique>> i b c. too close for me. a multimillion dollar ship? >> be careful. >> bag connie view. >> right. that's it. i would like scrape my knuckles with this wing span. look at this. that's not safe. >> reggie stealing some rocks from the canal. >> get those past security when he comes back. all right, mote will try to steal a few minutes from our lives tomorrow and make it a little bit wet for our commute. not for all of us. here's a look at san jose, 50 degrees right now and those clouds are increasing. partly cloudy. it will eventually become party sunny today. you will need the sunglasses, it will be high, thin clouds, the sun will shine

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distinguished speaker's daughter here and her husband. , the wifetsy hewitt of newly elected hugh hewitt. our distinguished speaker was to dr. kissinger as dr. kissinger was to nixon. he was with dr. kissinger during the peace accords in 1973. he was with president nixon in moscow during his first presidential trip there. he was there for kissinger's shuttles between arabs and israelis. he was a key act your and president nixon's historic trip to china -- he was a key actor in president nixon's historic trip to china. he was state department director of policy and planning, ambassador to the people's republic of china and assistant secretary of state for south east asia and pacific affairs part he conducted several hours of oral histories of dr. kissinger on behalf of the nixon foundation. it can be found in this highly readable book called kissinger on kissinger: reflections on diplomacy, grand strategy, and leadership. it is available for purchase at our museum store. ambassador lord will be interviewed by dr. frank gannon. he obtained his masters degree at the london school of economi