the doctor, sir hugh martinez in san ignacio like new mexico together with his team where wales breed. he's been coming here for the last 15 years to monitor them as part of the laguna son ignacio echo system science program. i asked him why the drug phenomenal c m i and seems to me that i, in florida, when there's a phenomenon called skinny well in which you start seeing that their body condition is getting worse, getting thinner because they're not getting enough food. and from the middle of 2018, the phenomenon started happening. it peaked in 2020, when 30 percent of the whales were in that condition and all the whales feed in the arctic on shrimp like creatures could empty boats. they dig for in the mud. indications are that the supplies running low climate change could be involved. but there's also precedent to this in the late 19 eighties. and again in 1999, there was a big drop in way numbers. scientists believe that there's a natural top out point in the number of gray whales of air ecosystem can spool when they reach that point. the number goes down and then it starts climbin