we would often feed stories to huntley brinkley. remember one of the officers of nbc came out of there were going to go from 15 minutes to half an hour. they were worried they wouldn't be able to fill the half hour so they were asking the affiliates to keep your i am the stories. the first time i appeared on huntley brinkley, one of the flying will lenses fell off of a bar at the circus in omaha and died in one of the photographers got a picture. i was on the air. >> with so many networks now available in so many different ways of getting off -- information, isn't the news a bit or relevant? >> i think now, i walked into bloomberg last night and i was doing charlie rose. i like going over there. bloomberg has got a big stage with radio and internet in television and a lot of stuff going on. i said if i were starting over i would be looking at something like limburg, to go to work -- we have a lot of platforms as well. but all my friends, my contemporaries when i started in this business thought i was crazy because they were all in l