. >> larry: huntsville, alabama. hello. huntsville, are you there? >> caller: yes. >> larry: go ahead, what's your question? >> caller: yes. my question is, i am an up and coming author -- yes, i'm here. >> larry: go ahead. >> caller: my question to michael moore is, i have a book that's coming out, first-time author, very controversial called "black kings in america." i want to know what was the driving force behind your very first film, knowing how controversial it is? >> the driving force behind "roger & me" was that i -- i grew up in the hometown of general motors, flint, michigan, and i saw what happened to the people in my town, and i thought i should try to make a movie about it and i did. and now some 20 years later the town is still struggling, lots of good people there trying to make it work. general motors, of course, has gone kaput. as far as flint goes, very few jobs left there now. very few jobs left in the state of michigan with general motors, but it is a sad story that has hit many towns across thus country. it's not just flint, mich

firing things into the air nowadays buckbee often takes people on a tour of the space museum in huntsville where each exhibit is related to von braun . but the best storyteller of. exploits is his only daughter natalia she wrote about him in three volumes of memoirs simply titled my father. with this this is a picture of the first soviet rocket it was launched on august seventeenth one thousand nine hundred thirty three though it spent only eight hundred seconds in the air in the quiet altitude of four hundred meters it was a spectacular success a good. moscow in the one nine hundred thirty s. was a time of daring ambition and breathtaking endeavor it's one group of young scientists infusing as a model they have to try and turn fantasy into reality they were so desperately short of money that they had to hire a tram to take this second rocket to its launch pad. was the driving force behind the team researching propulsion they kept saying to each other we will go to mars yes we will. rested for high treason in nineteen thirty eight but for many years he didn't know why he protested his inno

he's also served time at the texas penitentiary in huntsville as accessory to murder. an actor and author, she started the tv hit "the wire." she served six years in prison for first degree murder. dog, you are certainly proof you can turn a life around. did prison help you in any way? >> yes, sir, hi, larry. prison helped me all the way. i mean, i did not like it back in the '70s. texas was the only self-sufficient prison. that meant we had to raise our food, get up in the morning and work. and it was terrible. i did not want -- there was no crime that was fun enough to equal the punishment of prison. there just wasn't any. so yes -- >> larry: so the system itself rehabilitated you? >> the system itself rehabilitated me, because i hated -- you know, when i hit the texas penitentiary, i was 22 years old, and the first thing they told me is there's no rehabilitation here, dog. you're here to be punished. and you're going to work. and for 18 months i was punished. >> larry: judge, what do you make of that? because they say punishment in and of itself doesn't work. dog sa

host: huntsville, alabama. caller: yes, i was alarmed by the speakers' notion that the rules have to be changed. i think that's a dangerous thing. because the way that our system is done, they have an opportunity to speak in the next election and change things. that's what the democratic process is about. host: florida, john on the independent line. caller: yes, i wonder if your guest could address the aspect of history. under congressman wilson in the 20's, and i believe that the progressive bill is trying to divide this country. and against what the constitution stands for, and sir, would you deny that progressism is not socialism? guest: i would say it's not socialism, i would say that the common thread in equal opportunity. we believe that you should be able to make a living wage at your job and be protected. that's why there is labor support. we believe that you shouldn't be able to destroy the intiermeenv if you are a corporation, like what bp is doing in the gulf. we believe in the creation of this consu