hur? >> that language does appear in the report, and we did identify evidence supporting those assessments. >> reporter: the white house says this is now case closed, and that the special counsel report cleared the president. but republicans are expected to make his age an issue in the upcoming campaign. late today, president biden officially clinched the nomination lester >> gabe gutierrez starting us off. thank you. >>> in pennsylvania, a neighborhood shaken after a deadly home explosion killed at least two people near pittsburgh emilie ikeda on the investigation tonight. >> reporter: tonight, officials in western pennsylvania are investigating what caused a massive explosion that killed a man and woman and obliterated this home. the shell of a basement is all that remains. >> i'm on the scene. i've got a house on the ground, completely on the ground. >> reporter: it happened just before 9:00 a.m the blast caught on surveillance video sending debris soaring above the tree line and damagi

you know, he said that hur essentially exonerated him, hur said he didn't. he said that there was no evidence that he willfully did anything. hur said exactly the opposite. and so all of this is -- for average americans is very, very disturbing. but you are left with this contrast. you know, they keep on bringing up the trump case, but they cite the wrong count. you know, we are talking about the retention, mishandling of classified material as the point of comparison. i don't see how you can read the hur report and support what smith has done. it seems to me that you have to indict them both or neither on those classified retention counts. what they were referring to is different charges, dealing with obstruction of justice and that's fine. go at it. if you think president trump obstructed justice, you can prosecute him. that's not the comparison to judge these two cases. they did not want to talk about, i think the detail of comparison between these, the handling of classified material. in biden's case, there were aspects that were more aggravating, more a

hur. he is set to appear in just moments, before the house judiciary committee. and you can see him arriving there at the capitol, moments ago. he's being held, we're told in a holding area before this committee hearing gets going. now, hur is the special counsel who investigated president biden's handling of classified documents. ultimately he chose not to bring charges, but he also questioned the president's mental acuity and fitness in his report. he is expected to defend that today in his opening statement, saying, quote, my task was to determine whether the president retained or disclosed national defense information willfully, meaning knowingly, and with the intent to do something the law forbids. i could not make that determination without assessing the president's state of mind. let's discuss with nbc's julie tsirkin from capitol hill, justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, chuck rosenberg, senior fbi official, as well as former democratic congressman max rose of new

hur. in accordance with the law, classified information must be treated with the highest respect and protected. and president biden has made it clear during this investigation and long before that he agrees. in response to mr. hur's report he says, and i quote, over my career in public service, i've always worked to protect america's security. i take these issues seriously. and no one has ever questioned that, end quote. the special counsel's report makes clear that this is unfortunately a common occurrence for classified documents to get swept up into members of congress or executive branches, official's personal effects. and as soon as president biden discovered that he had mistakenly kept classified material, he took swift and immediate action to make sure that those materials were returned. and he fully cooperated with every step of your investigation. president biden's predecessor, when dealing with the issue of having classified materials took very different steps. 2016, donald trump

hur?> that is inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report. >> it's a lie is just what regular people would say, right? yeah. all right. >> bret: former special counsel hur up on capitol hill. let's get some analysis on top story from trey gowdy former congressman from south carolina and george washington university law school professor jonathan turley. trey, let me start with you, you've been around the block in hearings that are contentious at times. both sides trying to do different things. what was your take on this hearing? >> i thought he handled the very well. you know, bret, i woke up this morning not sure what robert hur's incompetent canned stand trial. can't assist in his defense. can't testify, is he legally incompetent. number two, that there was some evidence missing on an element of the offense. so you have different elements and there was an evidentiary shortcoming. number three is there is evidence on all elements, we just don't think a jury would conv

hur? is inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report. >> so it is a lie, what regular people would say, right? >> greg: dems harping throughout the hearing that biden's brain is fine because he sat for five hours with the special counsel over two days. hur come on the other hand, says his time with joe is precisely e president's memory. >> can you explain what specifically in your interview with president biden lead you to this conclusion? >> the conclusion -- >> the broad statement that has been cited many times. >> the totality of the time that i spent with the president during his voluntary interview was something that i certainly considered in framing my assessment and articulating it in the report, and that includes not only the words in the record of the transcript of the interview, but also the experience of being there in the room with him. >> greg: 's be 21's testimony wasn't the only bomb dropped on biden. they also released the transcript from his interview

hur, he said oh, god, may 30th. would you like to correct the record, his memory was pretty firm on the month and the day. >> i don't believe that's correct with respect to the transcript but if you could refer me to a specific page i would be happy to look. >> i read about it in the reporting. i yield back. >> mr. hur, why did the white house ask you to remove parts of the report, what was the reason they gave for that? >> i don't have the letter in front of me, congressman. i believed among the reasons was they contested or they asserted that certain language in the report was inconsistent with doj policy. >> the day your report came out the president gave a live news conference on national television. did you watch that news conference? >> i watched the press conference, yes. >> what was your reaction to seeing the president personally attack you and your team. >> congressman, i'm here to talk about the work that went into the report and my explanation of it -- >> it was not just the president, anthony coley, for

hur. i want to get this straight. is it now okay if i take home top secret documents, store them in my garage, and read portions of them to friends or associates? >> congressman, i wouldn't recommend it but i don't want to entertain hype that calls. >> is that okay? i can do that now under this new doctrine >> i wouldn't recommend you do that. >> you have essentially said so in your report and certainly it would be exculpatory if i simply told you hey, i'm getting old and i don't remember stuff the way i used to. >> i'm not here to get into hypotheticals. >> it's not a hypothetical. this is the issue at hand. you correctly noted in your report that former presidents and other senior officials have been given wide latitude in their possession of classified information and i believe your decision to not prosecute biden for the same offense is consistent with that precedent. but the problem is that precedent changed with the administration's decision to prosecute donald trump. and the irony is that as president trump had

hur. st.d of partisan hit jobs. let me start by saying that the potential mishandling of classified information is a seirious issue, and i believe i was appropriate for the attorney general to appoint both special councils in the biden and trump cases. as my colleagues have pointed out, president bin'ial counsel hur, who did not find evidence sufficient to warrant criminal charges. despite this outcome, republicans have used the special councils report to further their long-standing efforts to re-elect, re-elect the former white supremacist in chief, donald trump, who faces 40 criminal charges related to the mishandling of classified documents, including obstruction of justice. while president biden returned all of the classified material and complied with the special councils investigation, let's remind ourselves what donald trump has said and done. he refused to turn over the classified documents in his possession to the national archives. he is on tape sharing documents he id hecould've dec

special counsel hur oh everybody is going to be biden is fine. mr. hur is the problem?hey should also be ashamed of themselves for their role in this cover-up. >> he is better than he has ever been intellectually, um, analytically, because he's been around for 50 years, this version of biden intellectually, analytically is the best biden ever. >> laura: really? even the generally pro-biden axios noted biden's repeated mental lapses during the special counsel's interviews. when did i announce for president in 2019? if it was -- well, if it was 2013? when did i stop being vice president? in 2009. am i still vice president? and then he asked trump gets elected in november of 2017? well, of course it was november 2016. and axios then notes twice on the same day biden struggled to find the words for fax machine. now, ignore the democrats' feigned bravado and their desperate attempt to what we know to be biden's conduct and diminishing mental state. here's the truth. in hold guilty classified documents in unsecure locations across decades, joe biden was in violation of 18 u.s

back to the robert hur hearing.t been gavelled into order. >> issue of the release of the transcript. i've heard complaints from my republican colleagues about white house only releasing the transcript from the biden interview this morning. i have to note that there are i think over 90 transcripts that are being held by the majority here in the judiciary committee and oversight committee for interviews we all care about. they all go directly to issues with respect to the alleged impeachment inquiry. you know, it's kind of the pot calling the kettle black it seems to me, as an understatement. i noted, too, that when the ranking member requested the majority release the transcripts, the chairman objected. so i hope that we can move forward in a, in the mode of cooperation sharing information. i think it's just reasonable to do. mr. hur, i wanted to thank you again for the work you did. i don't agree with everything you wrote in the report but that's the nature of the business, i think. i did want to ask you about this

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hur? >> that is inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report. >> it's a lie. >> you exonerated him. >> i did not exonerate him. that word does not appear in the report. >> mr. hur, it's my time. >> all i have to do when i'm caught taking home classified vehicles but i'm sorry. i'm getting old and my memory is not so great. this is the doctrine that you established in our laws now and it's frightening. >> you cannot tell me your so naive to think that your words would not have created a political firestorm. >> what your suggesting is that i shaped, sanitize, omit portions of my reasons for political reasons. >> i suggest you not shape your report for political reasons, which is what you did. >> that did not happen. >> neil: so it wentz for almost six hours talking past each other. robert hur caught up in the food fight, right in the middle of a food fight. that wouldn't stop and didn't stop. why robert f. kennedy jr. says there's got to be a better way, another way. may

hur? >> that language does appear in the report, and we did identify evidence supporting those assessments. >> all right, gabe joining me now. gabe, the special counsel says he did not exonerate the president. so how is the white house responding to that tonight? >> lester, the white house says this is case closed. republicans are now asking for an audio recording of the president's interview to be released. but white house says the transcript was enough. lester? >> gabe gutierrez starting us off, thank you. >>> in pennsylvania, a neighborhood shaken after a deadly home explosion killed at least two people near pittsburgh. emilie ikeda on the investigation tonight. >> reporter: tonight, officials in western pennsylvania are investigating what caused a massive explosion that killed a man and woman and obliterated this home. the shell of a basement is all that remains. >> i'm on the scene. i've got a house on the ground, completely on the ground. >> reporter: it happened just before 9:00 a.m

hur. mr.ime as a u.s. senator and the '70, correct? and even more senate papers heading back to the '70s through 1991 were found in the university of delaware morris library and in the biden senate papers collection, correct? and even more senate pa■urs dating back to the 1970s and 1980s were president biden's delaware garage. >> i believe that, yes, that's correct. >> mr. biden had nearly 50 years experience dealing with classified information, including as a member of the senate select committee on intelligence and member and chairman of the senate committee on judiciary, a member and chairman of the senate committee on foreign relations and vice president of the united states. and that he was deeply familiar with the measures taken to safeguard classified information and the reasons for them, correct? >> that language certainly sounds familiar, congressman, but if you have a page citation for me -- >> and as vice president, is it correct that in 2011, mr. biden received advice from his staf

hur. st.ouis and i are here today once again to focus on the real issues that affect our communities instead of partisan hit jobs. let me start by saying that the potential mishandling of classified information is a serious issue, and i believe it was appropriate for the attorney general to appoint both special councils in the biden and trump cases. as my colleagues have pointed out, president biden's complied with the investigation conducted by special counsel hur, who did not find evidence sufficient to warrant criminal charges. despite this outcome, republicans have used the special councils report to further their long-standing efforts to re-elect, re-elect the former white supremacist in chief, donald trump, who faces 40 criminal charges related to the mishandling of classified documents, including obstruction of justice. while president biden returned all of the classified material and complied with the special councils investigation, let's remind ourselves what donald trump has said and

hur is a problem?hey shoulheird also be ashamedf themselves for the role inette s cover. >> he is better than he has ever been intellectually, analytically because he's beenyr around for 50 years. >> this version of biden intellectually, analytically, is the best biden ever. >> laura: really! even fed generally pro-biden axios noted biden's repeated mental lapses during the special counsel interviews. when did i announce foras president in 2019? if it was 2013, window by stopping vice president?aske in 2009, am i still vice president? and trump gets elected in 2017?1 of course, it wa6.s november 20. an axial sent notes on twice on the same day, biden struggled to find the words for the fax machine. now, ignore the democrats famed bravado and their desperate attempt to reflect from what we know to be the facts aboutnish biden's conduct and his diminishing mental state. here is the truth. in holding classified documents and unsecure locations across decades, joe biden was in violation of 18 u.s. code sec

the fact there is one key question for robert hur.oes he think that biden was faking it and is actually mentally better than he was in the interview or does he think biden is that mentally incompetent? those of us who watch the state of the union ask to have how much ritalin he was on at the time of the state of the union. not the person you will see in these interviews. so this really opens a very deep problem for the biden administration about whether or not this president literally is competent on a daily basis to become commander-in-chief. >> bill: we're going through the transcript and you heard some of hillary's reporting there. more, too, about the garage and corvette. the garage was getting crowded. biden said boxes were moved to make room for the corvette. to complicate things, it was being worked on, the car, because he was getting ready for an interview with jay leno. there are other details in here, too. we'll hear those play out. >> dana: love the name dropper. >> bill: why there was a ladder here and golf clubs there and

first of all, what do we need to know about robert hur? he is now in the capacity of a regular guy, but he was the special counsel, robert hur has kept a very low profile throughout this investigation, but today, like it or not, spotlights going to be on him a couple of important things to know about robert hur. he was a longtime federal prosecutor. he was a trial prosecutor in maryland that he went over to headquarters in dc. he was named us this attorney. he was nominated by donald trump. he was confirmed in 2018. important to note, he was confirmed by unanimous voice vote in the senate. there was no opposition to him from republicans or democrats. and then merrick garland appointed him as special counsel about a year ago in january of 2023. now, let's just talk about what that means that he came became special counsel that means merrick garland gave robert hur the powers of any doj federal prosecutor. lets special counsel has a bit more independence. the regulation say he's not subject to the day-to-day supervision of the ag and the oth

larry: why didn't hur just say he is guilty, he basically said it. why didn't he say he is guilty and i would have charged him but he is president. >> i wish he would have. it beg the question, are we ever going to prosecute someone, what would you have to do to prosecute someone. there is not a single fact pattern in and way shape or form that a member of congress, house or senates that classified information you have to steal it to do it. he did this over the course of decades, it was not like accidently some staffer stuffed it in a job. larry: senator, and vice president. only one person that can take stuff out, that is the preside president. >> senator -- that drives me nuts, they have to establish the standard. but, right now it is, if you are a democrat, you will get away with it but if you are a republican or donald trump we might prostitute. larry: steve forbes, why should hur, i you know he stood up on a lot of forces he had to strand up to the justice department to get it. instead of coming up with this about how joe biden lost his mind. he

the white house has been going after hur himself.re expecting to hear from a spokesman from the counsel's office shortly on camera, martha. >> okay. jacqui, thanks very much. with that, we bring in marc thiessen, fox news contributor and juan williams, senior political analyst. great to have you with us today. marc, you go back to the original leak from this report that robert hur felt there would be complications when it came from a jury. they would likely see the president as a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. contract that with what we learned today and what do you make of these report from some media that he appears stronger than we might have thought in this report? what do you say? >> first of all, that's the only reason he wasn't prosecuted. there's clear evidence in there about of willful retention and sharing of classified information that he knew he had classified information he wasn't supposed to have and shared it with people that weren't authorized to see it. his only reason for not prosecuting him because he

hur, why do you do it? why did joe biden, in your words, willfully retained and disclosed classified materials? i mean, he knew the law in an office like 50 years. >> you exonerate a conviction. i know that exam room or it's not i'm sure it has. mr. hurts my time >> biden's memory took center stage as hur said in his report that he did not charge biden because he believed a jury would see him as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory. >> you find in your report that the elements of a federal criminal violation are met, but then you apply this senile cooperators theory that because joe biden cooperated and the elevator go to the top floor, you don't you get a conviction. you understood when you made >> that decision, didn't you, mr. hur, that you would ignite a political firestorm with that language, didn't you? >> congressman politics played no part whatsoever in my investigative steps. >> you cannot tell me you're so naive as to think your words who would not have created a political f

hur. and before i yield back, mr. chairman, i ask unanimous consent to enter into to the record an excerpt from the committee's transcribed interview with steven d'antuono, former assistant director in charge of the fbi, washington field hold office on june 7, 2023, in which mr. d'antuono explained that the fbi executed a search warrant for classified material at mar-a-lago because there was probable cause to believe that donald trump did not fully comply with a subpoena to turn over classified documents the objection. >> thank you. mr. chairman, i yield back. >> gentleman. yields back the gentlelady from florida red counties or gentleman from ranking members recognize its chairman i have three of them is consent requests. all right. firstly, i assume that i asked unanimous consent to enter into the record. the publishers web page for president biden's 2017 book, promise me, dad would shows that the book is a deeply moved memoir about the year. okay. president biden son beau died? objectio

here is what the hur said.oming up. >> my team and i conduct the a thorough, independent investigation. we identified evidence that the president willfully retained classified materials after the end of his vice presidency when he was a private citizen. larry: and so the thing should have finished, sean, and steve, everybody here, jason, and i would have busted him and charged him, it would be a felony, wouldn't it? >> of course. larry: if it were not for the fact he is president. just kind of said that. >> they had markingses larry, more classified. you can have -- larry: made it really simple. >> here is the other thing. the fact that joe biden gave his ghost writer what he knew was classified information, that ghost writer once he knew robert hur was appointed deleted audiotapes. got rid of evidence. if that wasn't charged shows how much in the bag robert hur is in to protect joe biden. yes he threw some gratuitous commentary, joe biden having a bad memory. larry: i think that word gratuitous which the white

hur for staying.it speaks to the possibility and prominence afforded by this nation that you as a child of immigrants sit here as special counsel. and i sit here as a memberof congress. there is a lot that has been said today and part of the challenge that i have is trying to translate this for i constituents back home. i want to start with sort of a top line. you were tasked with identifying whether criminal classified documents. and after over one investigation, including 150 witness interviews and over 7 million documents reviewed, you wrote in the first sentences of the executive summary, "we conclude that no crimin■ual■# charges are warranted in this matter. we would reach the same conclusion even if the department of justice policy did not -- sitting president." are those your words? >> yes. >> let's get into it. mr. hur, at any time did the doj leadership or anyone else attempt to influence you . >> no. >> do you believe that you were independent and thorough in your report? >> yes. >> do yothi

does it line up with the way hur described the interview? >> certainly in the mind of democrats, no. that's part of what the reaction was and what we saw democrats attempting to do throughout today's hearing was to enter portions, excuse me, of that transcript into the record. to at one point even ask hur to read in his own words what he wrote about the president and the challenge based on what was in the transcript itself. perhaps biggest flash point had to do with of course robert hur assessing that the president was an elderly man with a poor memory and he cited as evidence to support that assessment the fact that the president could not remember within several years, the year his son died. the transcript does bear out nbc's reporting which had been exclusive until we saw the transcript itself that it was the president himself who raised beau's death in the context of questions about how he kept certain documents related to the activities of his post vice presidency in 2017. he did get the date and day correct, but not the year. several o

you're going to hear hur say that on camera in a new minutes.a partisan and someone who's interjected personal beliefs into this report. lawmakers say there are fundamental questions they believe he alone can answer. >> there have only been three individuals from the respective parties over the last three cycles, hillary clinton, joe biden and president trump. all three have had concerns about how they handled classified documents. only one is getting prosecuted. if that doesn't point to the double standard that we see in this country, i don't know what does. >> reporter: and we've seen the white house push back quite a bit about this, and president biden himself has also gone to great lengths to talk about how he disagrees with hur's findings about especially his age, his memory and his past experiences. this transcript that came out earlier this morning details the conversation the president had with the special counsel's office back in october. the white house is insisting this is proof of what they've been saying, that the president knows mo

hur? is inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report. >> yes, it's a lie, isn't it. >> the likely outcome would be a conviction. >> you exonerated him. >> i did not exonerate him. >> mr. hur, it's my time. >> all i have to do when i'm caught taking home classified materials, i'm sorry, mr. hur, i'm getting old, my memory is on so great. this is the doctrine you established in our laws. it's frightening. >> you can't tell me you're so naive to think your words would not have created a political fire storm. >> what you're suggesting is yishape, sanitize my reasons for political reasons. >> that you not shape your response for political can reasons. >> that did not happen. maria: time for the hot topic of the hour. that was robert hur yesterday, on his investigation into president biden's mishand a dhandlingclass need documents. democrat congressman adam schiff and hank johnson sparring with hur with his decision to include statements on biden's poor memory in the report.

>> hur says that about biden.ing it was said, why didn't you put that it the report? >> what do you make of this? t >> okay, i think it'smost fascinating that most democrats were complaining about the media coverage of the report then what was actually in the report. they hated it because we knew immediately and that's when i. said this election is on because him saying it's an elderly man with a poor memory is what 86%ha of the country believes that we are just reinforcing that.it d it doesn't matter how many timec the democrats a he's a competen president, people have made thir decision with their own eyes an, ears. there waass news that came out that said indeed the white houst did ask hur to waterdown that portion of the report in a letter and apparently hur did not do that so he wasn't persuaded on that.n th the other thing is that ther white house, through theatic democrat national committee, at the first lady of the united states issue a fundraising r money forki fo biden sayingng how dare hur briu up bow b

hur, it's my. time >> reporter: special counsel robert hur, a former trump- appointed u.s.ney, testified about as a report recommending new charges. >> we identified it evidence that the president willfully retain classified materials after his vice presidency. we did not however identify evidence that rose to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. >> reporter: hur defended, including damaging details, about president biden's mental acuity, including that the 81- year-old president had diminished faculties and represent himself to the jury as an elderly man with a poor memory. >> i did not sanitize my explanation, nor did i disparage the president unfairly. >> reporter: but hur was grilled by both republicans -- >> joe biden broke the law. but because he is a forgetful old man who appears sympathetic to a jury, mr. hur chose not to bring charges. >> reporter: and democrats. >> you chose a general pejorative reference to the president. you understood when you made that decision, didn't you, mister hur, that you would ignite a political firestorm in that language, didn

hur, i'm getting old, my memory is not so good.ot to establish any doctrine. i had a particular task and set of evidence to consider. with respect to one set of evidence. that is what we did. >> reporter: the justice department hours before hur was expected to be here did hand over the transcribed interview of this conversation but between hur and biden and in that transcript the president said i don't remember or i don't know. 44 times. really setting the groundwork or hur's analysis that he doesn't have the best memory. neil: ronald chapman, federal defense attorney, what do you think comes of this? >> donald trump is going to use this to his advantage for a jury nullification argument or maybe even a motion for selective prosecution. it's clear that we live in two systems, one in which you are a democrat and commit alleged criminal offense under the espionage act and do not get prosecuted because you don't remember and another system in which donald trump is facing prosecution for the same thing. this doesn't sit well with the a

hur? you wrote it in your report. >> that language does appear in the report and we identified those assessments. >> you also said joe biden -- i want to make sure i get this right, views himself as a man of presidential timber. do you remember that statement? >> i believe that appears in the report, at least the executive summary. >> this is interesting, because here's the scary part. page 200, and i said it earlier in the opening statement, page 200, joe biden, this is a quote, joe biden risked serious damage to america's national security when he shared information with his ghostwriter. shared it with his ghostwriter, the guy that was helping joe biden get $8 million. by the way, mr. hur, what did that ghostwriter do with the information president biden shared -- >> he slid, if i remember correctly, he slid those files into his recycle bin on his computer. >> tried to destroy the evidence, didn't he? >> correct. >> the very guy helping joe biden get the $8 million, and the motive for jo

hur? >> that language does appear in the report and we can identify evidence supporting those assessments. >> you have another interesting statement. you say that joe biden views himself as a man of presidential timber. it to remember that? >> i believe that appears in the report in the executive summary. >> here is the scary part. page 200. we said this earlier. joe biden risk serious damage to american national security when he shared information with his ghost writer. he shared it with his ghost writer. the person that was helping joe biden get $8 million and by the way, what did that ghost writer do with the information that joe biden shared with them? what did he do after you remain special counsel? >> if you are referring to the audio recordings that were created -- >> that is what i am referring to. >> he slid, if i recall correctly, he slid the files into the recycle bin on his computer. >> so he tried to destroy the evidence? >> so, joe biden, $8 million -- was the the -- to retai

it's a point that hur had also made in his written report. ed o'keefe, cbs news, the white house. >>> well the house is set to vote today on a bill that could ban tiktok in the u.s. the legislation would force tiktok to separate from its chinese-based owner or face a possible ban. lawmakers are concerned about u.s. national security because of tiktok's ties to china. yesterday users, influencers, and tiktok's creator lobbied congress to reject the bill. >> this app is so much more than just an app for dumb tiktok dances. when i hear these elected officials literally mock and make fun of tiktok and its creators, i'm disgusted. this -- this is a life-changing app. >> president biden says he'll sign the legislation if it passes, but its fate in the senate is uncertain. >>> boeing is promising to make changes after a government audit found dozens of issues in the company's manufacturing process. the faa conducted the audit after a door panel blew off an alaska airlines jet in january. the agency said it reviewed 89 aspects of production at a wash

knowing robert hur. >> well, that's ridiculous. kaitlan, but what you saw today was a prosecutor up against 40 politicians and they have different functions. and i think that really played out very dramatically today. rob hur's job, like everybody in the department of justice, and he's one of the best one of the best people invest prosecutors i've worked with in my 30 years, the department of justice, both democrats and republicans. he plays it straight here are the facts. here's my analysis. >> and what >> does it mean in terms of the legal significance is the is the suspect culpable or not of committing a crime the politicians are interested in the political significance of those findings, but that wasn't an issue for rob. that wasn't his agenda. that wasn't his goal and so he produced a report that reflected the relevant legal findings and simply ignore the political context. >> republicans now want the audio recordings of those interviews that he did with multiple witnesses, including with president biden himself. if you were a

hur is a special counsel. he knows that this report is going to release publicly because merrick garland has repeatedly said he will make it public. so everything he puts into the report, he knows it's going to be fair game. and i think katie i think scott emphasized this morning when hur was being questioned by congressman matt gaetz. and gaetz acknowledged i think the right thing, you know, the right decision here was not to indict joe biden and the right decision would have been not to indict donald trump, was what gaetz said in this regard. and then he went onto make the political comments, right? and the law aside, he says but of course joe biden was either old or was being deceptive. and so i think that's the point here, that hur permitted himself to be used for a political narrative. that's not a prosecutor's job. >> we've got to turn now because i've got to talk about the filing trump just did in the hush money case, in the manhattan d.a.'s office in new york. trump filing a notice concerning his the i

hur writing while mr.trump was given multiple chances to return the documents he allegedly did the opposite and enlisted others to destroy the etched. >> it's a distraction from the 91 federal and state charges that u doctdonald trump faces nw >> reporter: republicans say his motives included an $8 million book advance >> it wasn't just $8 million it was also his ego! pride and money is why he knowingly violated the rules you agree with that, mr. hur >> that language does appear in the report, and we did identify evidence supporting those, those assessments. >> reporter: the white house says this is now case closed and that the special counsel report cleared the president. but republicans are expected to make his age an issue in the upc upcoming campaign. back to you. >> gabe, thank you >>> this morning the house is set to voteon a bill that coul effectively ban the popular app tiktok in the united states. house leaders expect the bill to pass with strong bipartisan support, even with some democrats raisin

that's exactly right and you look, it is just an embarrassing story provided at i think that robert hur did not sugarcoat the testimony are still do not liz, that is explanation for why he recommended against charges, for president biden make sense. and you know as you are alluding to, there's a very lengthy pattern of misbehavior in the prosecutor found that he acted willfully that i just think that there is no justification, that if you going to charge trump from what he is charged with in the florida case, you do not charge biden in connection with his handling of classified documents, to the extent that robert hur to the difference between the two cases, is that trump obstructed the investigation and biting with the investigation, that i be reason to charge trump with obstruction but is not a reason to not charge biden for serious classified information felonies. liz: you and energy said see him, the energy find is officials look for the documents and invited and off of your secrets of more than 8 million-dollar memoir but the going after truck company to think that case against tru

hur, welcome. i concur and let me echo what has been said by my colleagues, your personal story of being an immigrant to this country and way you contribute to greatness of this country shows why america is great, the great immigrant story. thank you for being here. first question to you, you are republican? >> i am, sir. >> does that stop you from thorough and fair investigation? >> i certainly hope not and i know not. >> this story is really proof of the old saying the cover up is worse than the crime. president trump and president biden handled their classified documents differently, wouldn't you say? >> my report includes assessment of alleged facts in indictment of president trump and comparison to facts in this case. >> the handles of documents was night and day, correct? >> do you have a specific aspect that you have in mind? >> you know, president trump intentionally took classified documents and obstructed justice to ensure those materials wouldn't be taken from him and refused to work wit

hur's report? joe biden said he took his notebooks with him after his vice presidency because quote, they're mine. and every president before me has done the same exact thing. never mind the fact that he had never been president when he took this information but what comes through is joe biden felt he was entitled, you can almost hear it. you can feel the arrogance in the statement. >> their mind but even with all that mr. hur chose not to bring charges because quote mr. biden would likely present himself to a jury as he did in our interview of him as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory a forgetful old man who mr. hur said did not remember when he was vice president for getting on the first day of the interview, when his teeth when his term ended, and for getting on the second day of the interview, when his term as vice president began mr. her produced a 345 page report. but in the end, it boils down to a few key facts. joe biden kept classified information joe biden failed

center. >> we got a lot of questions which documentaries mishandled the focus of our questions. >> hur resigned as special counsel will come here as a private citizen to take law enforcement questions democrats say that is suspicious and they think that hur's report is politically motivated because he was appointed by former president donald trump. >> i am a little concerned that he resigned the day before that he has been prepping apparently with trump orbit people, if he were still employee of department of justice would be obligated to adhere to rules recreations restrictions placed upon him by department of justice now as private sips does not have same obligations. >> democrats hoping for hur to walk back his comments about president biden's memory that won't be happening hur prepared opening statement obtained by fox will defend it say i knew for decision to be credible i could not simply announce that i recommended no criminal charges and leave it at that i needed to explain why, my assessment about relevance of the president's memory was necessary and accurate and fair a i did

hur -- that you would ignite a political firestorm with that language, didn't you? >> congressman, politics played no part whatsoever in my investigative steps. >> reporter: but today, republicans furious, too. asking should biden not be prosecuted just because he's sympathetic? >> one of the points you make is president biden's likely to be an elderly, sympathetic figure with a poor memory. but how does that bear on any individual's guilt or innocence? isn't that, again, a question for a judge or jury to decide? >> reporter: democrats emphasizing hur note that biden fully cooperated with the investigation, unlike donald trump. >> did you find that president biden engaged in a conspiracy to obstruct justice? >> no. >> did you find that president biden engaged in a scheme to conceal? >> no. >> reporter: but hur forcefully pushing back when democrats declared his report exonerated the president. >> so this lengthy, expensive, and independent investigation resulted in a complete exoneration of president joe biden. >> i need to go back and make sure that i take -- take

hur, but i'm getting old.y memory's not so great. >> reporter: in the hearing, democrats also repeatedly called out the differences between the biden and trump documents cases. the current president had roughly 80 documents in his possession while the former president had more than 300. hur had also acknowledged in his report that there are major differences in the cases. norah. >> ed o'keefe, thank you. >>> tonight alaska airlines is defending its decision to keep that plane the door panel flew off of mid-flight in service. it was scheduled to come in for a maintenance check that night after warning lights indicated problems with the plane's pressurization system. alaska airlines telling cbs news just moments ago it remains confident in its maintenance and safety actions. cbs kris van cleave this comes as we're learning new details about an audit that found dozens of issues in boeing's manufacturing process. >> reporter: after the dramatic midair blowout of a door panel in january, the faa launched an audit o

hur writing this. mr.en would likely present himself to a jury as he did during his interview with our office as a sympathetic well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. the report went on to say he did not remember when he was vice president. forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended and that he did not remember even within several years when his son bo died. the president himself has pushed back repeatedly and heavily against those claims. and top white house staffers insist the 81-year-old remains fully capable of leading the country. >> just a little part of what we get to see he has made mistake after mistake after mistake on camera this week. >> so, i want to be very clear here, um, the reality is that report -- that part of the report does not live in reality it. just doesn't. >> so the special counsel was lying about the president's memory. >> it is, it is, it was gratuitous. >> we will see if the president pushes back a little bit further as he welcomes poland's leaders to

hur? you wrote it in your report. >> that language does appear in the report and we identified evidence supporting those assessment. >> another interesting statement in your report saying joe biden viewed himself as a man of presidential timber. remember that statement, mr. hur? >> i believe that appears in the executive summary of the report. >> this is interesting. here is the scary part. page 200 said this earlier in my opening statement. page 200. joe biden -- a quote, joe biden risked serious damage to america's national security when he shared information with his ghost writer. shared it with his ghost writer. the guy helping joe biden get $8 million. by the way, mr. hur, what did that ghost writer do with the information joe biden shared with him on his laptop? what did he do after you were named special counsel? >> if you are referring to the audio recordings that he created of his conversations. >> that's what i'm referring to. >> he slid if i remember correctly, he slid those fil