and the writer of zora neale hurston wrote a book about him called "barracoon," which came out not too long ago. and all the descendants of these people, like, they lived in africatown. some still live in act africa -- they still live in africatown today. you have people today who know who their ancestors are exactly. they know where they come from. most african-americans can't trace back and we don't know. so, it is amazing that they've got this story. host: tara roberts, how many dives have you made with diving with a purpose? guest: i don't know. i stopped counting. not nearly near as many -- host: over 100? is 100 a fair number? guest: maybe somewhere around there. host: are you to the instructor level yet? guest: no, i'm not. host: is it time under the water that counts? guest: it is time under the water, but also instruction. you have to have certain skills to be an instructor, because then you're taking people out on the water and you don't want to lose anybody, so you've got to be sure you know what you are doing so you can be -- so you can really be in charge of those folks an