hussein ok i mean is that really really. i mean listen it can't be a recognition issue because the p.l.o. which is the sole legitimate representative of the procedure people recognize israel formally in the letters of recognition of mutual recognition in nineteen ninety three and formally committed to recognizing the state of israel you return the state of israel only recognize. the p.l.o. as the legitimate representing the policy of people so you know the arab league has adopted the arab peace proposal which which which offers israel normalization of all the arab states in return for withdraw from occupied territories and israel has peace treaties with egypt and jordan and it has recognition from the sole legitimate representative of the palestinian people what we have fortunately really is a territorial dispute because last monday i mean seven days ago eight days ago prime minister netanyahu gave a speech before the knesset in which he said there would be no negotiations on jerusalem annexation of settlement blocks without

because you know the more we delay this here now hussein first go ahead. thank you know no we're not. and there is no such thing as a one state solution fact we have a one state exactly exactly and it is it is very right and it is extremely ugly and there is no way to fix it internally so the only solution there might be a one state outcome after decades of horrible bloody conflict in which both sides are so decimated and exhausted they give up their national projects but for the foreseeable future in my lifetime there will be no one state open quote solution close quote there will be is either a two state peace agreement or a ongoing and increasingly bitter bloody and religious conflict we have to avoid that can only two quick points against the president present on the hamas fatah deal president obama said it raises important and legitimate questions for which policies have to provide a clear answer that's right that's the international position they want to see how this is implemented you know no there is no nobody knows what the details of what this is

we had not focused on the fact, you have not focused on the fact that saddam hussein had been a threate united states of america, to the middle east since he invaded iran. >> joining me now is colonel wilkerson, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> it was a frustrating discussion trying to get her to respond to questions knowing what we know now. when ever i would introduce what we know now, that he was not a threat, she would revert to 2001-2002 and never address how to look at what we did in iraq based on what we know now. is that your experience in talking to other people in the administration or are they willing to acknowledge what we know now would have changed completely what we did in iraq. >> it is my impression from most of them. i will say this, my boss, colin powell has some reservations about what we did. you have to remember, too, that condoleezza rice was batting above her weight. she was surrounded by 800 pound gorillas. she had a choice to make. she could try to discipline the 800 pound gorillas, which is what they are supposed to do, or back of

saddam hussein's sons which were very gruesome and also a photo of saddam hussein or who was purported piece of saddam hussein after his hanging they don't seem to have any problem with that now if they were if they're so concerned about inflaming tensions in the muslim world why were they so willing to have these photographs of saddam and his sons bodies released that it just shows inconsistency and john brennan of course is using this to hype up the fact that he was one of the architects of the cia's torture and rendition program and they're saying well this some of this information was retrieved because of waterboarding i see this more as mr brennan's attempt to rewrite history and try to say look waterboarding was good and and now that he's such a close adviser obama is in a position to do that despite the contradictions in the warning from nation it is widely believed that he is dead isn't it the conspiracy theories in the u.s. are they not or do they. people think they really could have a point. well i think there's no question it's the with the one major thing is when did he die

central player in the hunt and capture of saddam hussein. planning for the take down of osama bin laden was planned and staged for months. but the execution of the mission took 40 minutes. my next guest commanded a battalion that hunted down and captured iraqi leader saddam hussein. steve, it is good to have you hoar. >>. [applause] >> it took a long time to develop the intelligence. was it sophisticated satellite technology or how did you go about finding saddam hussein? >> people think that saddam capture was an instant thing. it was the result of six months of two operations teams and working with regular forces over a six-month period. >> we got him and you detail what goes on in the process of getting saddam hussein. tell me about the similarities in dealing with saddam hussein and osama bin laden, because i am sure you kept up with the extraordinary process here. what is similar and what is different. >> there is quite a bit similar. time lines are different. saddam was surrounded by larger numbers of people and social networks. but bo

everything was set and a giant cord around so that saddam hussein could not escape.seized. they put saddam in a hiding place and after a time mouslet pointed to the location. it was a foot mat and got down in the hole and saddam was pulled out of the hole and successfully captured. >> what a remarkable mission and all chronicled in a book called we got him. it is a great insight in the capability of our military. as we conclude tonight's program. we hopefully have brought to you a sense of the extraordinary dedication and discipline of the men and women in our military and intelligence agencies. we celebrated when we found out osama bin laden was killed. but the moment in which it was revealeditous, was preceded by years of painstaking work and careful work and also extraordinary danger that they put themselves through. the united states of america owes a lot to our military. i don't think we can give them too much in terms of recognition and gratitude. i hope if you see a soldier, sailor or marine or air men, shake their hand and say god bless. another happy's mothe

it featured shiite chants directed at saddam hussein before he was hanged. here's the audio of that scene. we're not going to show you the rest of the video, it goes on to show saddam hussein, of course a sunni being hanged shyites yelling sectarian things at them. the release of that video was to say the least not helpful to iraq's bloody sectarian divide at the time. now four years later president obama has the ultimate trophy photo if he wants to make it that of the world's most recognizable terrorist, the man the united states has been hunting for ten years. here's how we explain to the cbs program "60 minutes" today why his decision to is that the images of bin laden should not be released. >> did you see the pictures? >> yes. >> what was your reaction when you saw them? >> it was him. >> why haven't you released them? >> you know, we discussed this internally. keep in mind that we are absolutely certain this was him. we've done dna sampling and testing and so there is no doubt that we killed osama bin laden. it is important for us to make sure that ver

you detailed what goes on in the process of getting saddam hussein.similarities in dealing with saddam hussein and usama bin laden, because i'm sure you've kept up with the extraordinary process here. what is similar and what's different? >> there's a lot of similar. the time lines are different. saddam was surrounded by larger numbers of people and social networks. both had virtual unknowns in direct coordination with him and once you find out who those key individuals are and being able to track them down, that becomes essential to finding the big guys. >> mike: i understand that there was one particular little boy that was a critical part of finding saddam hussein. >> there were five controlling families involved with the security apparatus surrounding saddam. he had it before the war and these were families protecting him. the muslim family was the key. there was a boy that came up to the outpost and said i have some information and my commander talked to the boy and sent my forces out on a raid and when we got to the farm it was the very family t

these traditions of the united states always find someone who personifies they maybe it was saddam hussein it was milosevic now until recently it was bin laden so you have these nice to do with that some call the united states cannot survive without him this is not the way with development well a whole. chain will seize at some moment because after all it's not injured you know greta north and east la mickelson tradition who do want to have a new miss if you need any miss to keep yourself informed that doesn't want to rethink some world. for more on this we're joined live by ahmed correction the senior fellow for you pakistani think tank project for the twenty first century good to have you with bin ladin is dead what's next what's next for the war on terror. well i think we are moving now very fast toward the end game in afghanistan i think if we just move beyond the death or the assassination of osama bin laden we can see that one way or the other the united states has been provided if they saving way to sort of say that now we can actually get out of afghanistan i think one reason why y

first it was a start and was it was the russian federation and it was some of the large from saddam hussein and the use of course we have more of a. parallel have been made this week with how the u.s. armed groups that played robots which occupied the taliban with what they're doing now in libya perhaps the new public enemy number one is just beginning his journey this time in warfare and he's now a r t one. of the pentagon has released five home videos all the some of. they were among material scenes from the pakistani compound where he was killed the videos are a glimpse of bin laden's life as a fugitive in hiding one tape shows the al qaeda leader preparing a message to the u.s. believed to have been produced late last year in another video. seen watching a programme about himself well our television proc a paul has been criticized for failing to deliver a proof of banal the president launched the release of photos of the al qaeda as leaders body sizing national security risks the exact circumstances of his death were made on clear and have raised questions about the legality of the kepi

bush administration used when they chose to release post-death photos of saddam hussein's two sons back in 2003. >> these two individuals are particularly vicious individuals. they are now dead. we know that. they have been carefully identified. the iraqi people are -- have been waiting for confirmation of that, and they in my view deserved having confirmation of that. >> was the release of the dead photographs of the two sons, was that confirmation for the iraqi people that they were in fact dead? here's how richard engel reported on that question for "nbc news nightly news" when the uday and kusay photos were released. one quick word of warning here, richard's report does contain shots of the fairly graphic photos in question. >> no way i'm convinced says this man. i'm 100% unconvinced. we asked others in the store to raise their hands if they were equally doubtful. these men thought the pictures, especially the one of saddam's older song uday shot in the mouth, just doesn't look right. he was known to be thin with a beard. this picture shows him with a swollen face and long beard. pe

first it was a saga it was the russian federation and it was on a large hussein and the use of more. parallels have been made this week with how the u.s. armed groups that later evolved into loctite have the taliban with what they're doing now in libya so perhaps the new public enemy number one is just beginning his journey this time in north africa and he's now a r t. the pentagon has released five home videos that was son of bin laden seized from his pockets tiny compound and they offer a glimpse of bin laden's life and joy and familiar image of the l a times in need to despite a public image of a confident leader has shown we have to say his speech is reading off paper and looking to the side of passing for advice and not of the job bin laden is seen sitting on the floor watching a programme about himself the release of the footage shows criticism of president obama who blocked publication of photos of the al qaeda leader's body and while conflicting official white house reports out of the operation have helped fuel conspiracy theories. the story. the week began with an internatio

to study the execution of america's other enemy in two thousand and six when the hanging of saddam hussein went viral on the web. shortly afterwards meanwhile bin laden's expedited sea burial has been the target of conspiracy and acts u.s. officials say was done in keeping with muslim tradition returning to. here is the requirement in islamic law the individual within twenty four hours as many have noted washington broke its own rule when the bodies of saddam hussein's sons were in and held for eleven days after being killed by u.s. forces but there's so many inconsistency is in all of this that it's incumbent upon the obama administration to be as forthcoming as they can be about exactly what they do and do not know and did and did not know or in this case know what to say before you speak and not just one week ago it was brock obama at the center of a two year conspiracy that died down once america's leader released his birth certificate but now obama's actions surrounding the killing of osama bin ladin have tave the way for a whole new set of missing questions surrounding the transparen

union and then it was and it was the russian federation and it was some of them larger than saddam hussein and they used use of force we have the parallels have been made this week without the u.s. armed groups that later evolved into iraq and the taliban what they're doing now in libya the new public enemy number one is just beginning his journey this time. and he's now a are. the pentagon has now released five home videos of a son of bin laden they were among materials seized from the pakistani compound where he was killed the videos off. his life as a fugitive in hiding one tape shows the al qaeda leader preparing a message to the u.s. believed to have been produced late last year in another video bin laden is seen watching a programme about himself on arabic television barack obama has been criticized meantime full failing to deliver the proof and staff the president block the release of photos of the al qaeda leader's body citing national security risks and the exact circumstances of his death remain unclear and have raised questions about the legality of the killing that's artie's on

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saddam hussein's sons were in arms and held for eleven days after being killed by u.s. forces but there are so many inconsistency is in all of this that it's incumbent upon the obama administration to be as forthcoming as they can be about exactly what they do and do not know and did and did not know or in this case know what to say before you speak. not just one week ago it was brock's obama at the center of a two year conspiracy that died down once america's leader released his part certificate but now obama's actions surrounding the killing of osama bin ladin have paved the way for a whole new set of missing questions surrounding the transparency the u.s. government very important i.r.t. new york because of our bin laden's demise as he was even more pressure on the already strained relationship between pakistan and the u.s. is not about claims its sovereignty was violated by the secret mission to eliminate the terrorist figurehead meanwhile washington's trying to establish whether it's i was sheltering bin laden who'd been living in an affluent suburb the pakistani c

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writer by saddam hussein i mean these you can play these games either i was not popular but the fact the matter is that you know life was going on in iraq by and large as long as you didn't get in politics just as it is in most countries unless you want to get in the winter no matter and wonder if i mean the mockers you can create any can for you want to know why when i say i don't know he sounds just like it's just that i know you can play horror stories on both sides here saddam hussein was committing stories as well you know the kurds seem to have a better life today and iraq has a chance it never paid for it so now we commit atrocities and we're hated for inside its ability to transmit the point is you can invade any country pretty much you want if you will if you want to find something really nasty about a country a lot of them have been arguing for the invasion i'm just pointing out that you know your who he is he's trying to play this game that america can get all these atrocities in iraq you know five million refugees on the other hand they removed a dictator who committed hi

i'm not hiding the hussein, either. don't have to. in fact, i might even night's snl.st tomorrow morning, we will continue the conversation. much of the focus will be on raising the debt limit as we reach that $14.30 trillion debt ceiling. we will be joined by a senior fellow at the peterson institute on economics. there will be some background from eric pianin. tomorrow, we begin a five-part series looking at the issue of homeland security. we will focus on the department itself, airports occurred, and, later in the week, civil rights and social liberties, border security technology, and bioterrorism. that is all this week on c- span's "washington journal." thank you for joining us this sunday. i hope you have a great week ahead. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> coming up, senator just bingaman, talks about gas prices and proposed tax breaks for oil companies. then oil executives testified to a senate panel on some of the same issues. after that, the r

i was wondering how much of that was informed by what happened with saddam hussein. when we... when he was found in that little spied di hole. he had a weapon. and if this logic had been applied or this... or these sort of... the team that found him had the same instructions as maybe the navy seals they would have shot him in the ground but they didn't, they brought him to trial, there was a lot of concern at the time i remember of people saying "why didn't we just shoot him? why are we giving him an opportunity for grandstanding to sort of rally his people?" none of those things happen. yes, the trials began with a lot of attention but over a period of time he became a laughing for iraqis and there's something to be said for that. by the time saddam had died, dadism-- like bin ladenism-- had also died. he has been reduced to a figure of fun. i'm sure there was a small core of people who sort of looked at those images on t.v. and felt bad or incensed but the vast majority of efshgkys saw that unfold and realized that the boogie man in their head was just a man and a raving slig

envoy to iraq april glaspie tell saddam hussein that if he invaded kuwait the u.s. would consider good internal affair and i'd get involved so much for april's assurances hussein to bush senior's q. and gave bush the excuse he needed to have his own war although it was short only a few days long clinton went to war in kosovo a war that was very popular but is still being debated and then george w. bush came to power thanks to the supreme court in two thousand and like reagan bush had plans to start a war for political capital but he told his biographer mickey herskowitz back in one thousand nine hundred ninety. before you even started running for president if he became president he was going to invade iraq to earn enough political capital that privatized social security. but then i'm eleven happened and cetera and instead of a one time war as bush had intended he and his handlers like donald rumsfeld dick cheney opted for a perpetual war a war on terror that would last as long as this presidency was so afghanistan happened in iraq happened and countless other covert

a country that had nothing to do with nine eleven or bin laden and in fact was an enemy of saddam hussein and in doing so created or inspired a whole new generation of people to rise up against united states that probably wouldn't have been inclined to do so otherwise so in that sense i mean i don't know that victory is the right word but in that sense also some of the agenda of trying to chisel away at the u.s. power in the world certainly was successful. revelation suggests pakistani special forces have been shielding the knowledge for many years political analyst i've read it says the fact he was found in an expensive mansion close to the pakistani capital is a learned raising a certain degree of suspicion there is some possibility that the pakistani government was saving him as the eighth in the hole because they knew that's what the united states not enough the united states to get him they may be less willing to provide billions of dollars of aid and other support to the pakistani government so i think the united states has. always been a victim of pakistan supporting the taliban un