hutcheson? >> i think the argument is that somehow legislative in this area and impedes the executive from his national security responsibilities protecting our country and i don't see any challenge to that authority at all. the legislation is being considered doesn't stop them from exercising state secrets from implementing national security programs. it doesn't change the fact they can assert that privilege. it just says that when it gets to the courts after the fact always when it's going to be reviewed then there's going to be a process in our system of checks and balances, so i do not see this as taken away from the authority of the chief executive in terms of national security. >> well, if we were in court, mr. grossman, you would be on the short end of this discussion >> that is perhaps the true numerically speaking. [laughter] i think if you look at the supreme court's decisions and opinions and the airlines, mixing, time and time again the court has said that secrecy is in some domains

will it get to unserved areas as senator hutcheson was referring to? >> senator, i do not have access to public information. from what i have heard publicly, an active healthy policy going forward, these activities are ways to demonstrate how government can work together collaborative lee to pursue a common and. the fcc is the expert agency around communications -- and around the communications infrastructure. it is important that we play eight consultation of role. i will work with you to understand -- to play a consul take -- consulattivtative role. >> not only is it important to play that role, it is in the statute. i was wondering if he had forgotten or skipped that part of the legislation where he was -- when he was reading through it. the fcc has no grant making authority in the btop program. they're just defining served and and served -- unserved in making the plan. >> you mentioned earlier that the room was full of lobbyists? lots of lobbyists? >> lots of lobbyists >> >> from all aspects of the industry? >> this is the guy that is going to be d

host: hutcheson, minnesota. week on the republican line. caller: there is a technology, hydrogen gas. i spoke to a guy -- he is getting 60 miles a gallon now. two metal plates, 12 decibels battery and start bubbling in the water like seven-up. the bubbles are flammable gas made from water. this technology has been around for years and i cannot believe they are not pushing that idea. it works. i have my own car rides -- you can make flammable gas off of water. host: thanks for the import. freeport, eleanor. the independent line. caller: i have a 1985 dodge pickup with a legendary slant 6 in june, 22 miles a gallon, weighs 5,000 pounds, it can gross 8,000 pounds. it is only 90 horsepower but yet it will pull anything down the road. way more dependable than anything out on the road now. and it was made in america. it puts food on the table for americans. i refuse to buy anything from japan or anything from korea, absolutely not. host: thank you for your call. guest: but i think one thing people should be aware of is that foreign-owned auto mak

member on the subcommittee, senator thune and then hear from senator rockefeller and ranking member hutcheson. >> thank you, mr. chairman for calling this hearing and the distinguished panel today i want to welcome my state is one of the few in the country that doesn't have passenger rail and we have to hearken back in history to a time when we did. i recall my father who is now almost 90 talking about taking, back in the 30 staking their railroad from my home town to mitchell which is about 130 or 40 isles and that was a frequent thing and people at the time traveled by rail of lott, passenger rail but it's been some time since we've had the south dakota where we are dependent upon the freight railroading so i can probably approach this issue may be more dispassionately than most since it isn't something we have an outdoor state although maybe with all the stimulus money we could get some. that would be nice. but i want to say it is an opportunity that the funding that's been made available for the high-speed rail in the budget model made the stimulus money but the other 5 billion that is an