people in scotland will know it, people outside scotland don't know hutchies.hies that produces notjust you, notjust the first minister, humza yousaf, but a handful of other mps and msps. i think our own laura kuenssberg went there... did she? that explains a lot! well, yes, what does it explain? what is it that that school does? i mean, hutchies is obviously a school on the south side of glasgow and there is now a disproportionate number of pupils, particularly from a south asian background and from a jewish background that go to the school and... look, i think humza yousaf was two years below me at school. i only ever had one conversation with him at school. i'm not sure it was a very positive one! he was a nationalist back then and i was a member of the labour party so i think we kind of rubbed up the runway we kind of rubbed off the wrong way in that conversation as well. but i part of it is i think confidence. i think the big challenge we have to win over is, it's part of our culture in scotland and the wider uk, where we have this inherent i think... we k

. >> george: with the exception of chris hutchi hutchinson, everybody else has been afraid to take on. i have to believe that the closer we get, that'll change. >> they haven't found a way to dent him. donald trump has not been dented by the press so far. he's been strengthened. we've seen mike pence not even qualify so far for the first debate. we've seen ron desantis' once formable standing fade. now he's got a staff shakeup going. why should donald trump go to the debate? why should he change his tactics and how can they other candidates confront him in a way that holds his voters, but takes him down? they have not figured that out. >> george, he is coming under withering attack. chris christie, i was quite surprised. his tell it like his is pac is putting out an ad today that is jarring. calling trump a liar, a coward, a chicken. i mean, will trump sit on the sideline and allow chris christie or asa hutchinson and someone else knock him out? no. i think he'll find a way to make this about him once again, but i was surprised at mike pence's number. you're vice president for four ye