you had certainly chris christie and asa hutchison and now will herd as well making this part of their argument. but now nikki haley's jumped in. let's take a look at over the weekend, chris christie and nikki haley. >> i think what our voters need to begin to think about is we have a front-runner right now who when he gets on the stage for the fox news debate on august 23rd, will be out on bail. in at least two different jurisdictions if not three. >> we can't have a general election where we are handing it over to kamala harris because we're dealing with indictments and court cases and legal issues of president trump. >> so garrett, talk to me about this and how you see this politically. so far, we do not see a negative effect in, after these indictments. no one has polled since the additional indictment on thursday night. in these indictments and all these legal cases, we've only seen it help him. his fund raising. >> none of this has broken through thus far and the candidates making this argument come in at a fraction of the support donald trump has. in a national poll we have seen

hutchison was asked about this after the segment with tucker carlson that got pretty intense over things like transgendered affirming care for kids where the covid vaccine and his quote was sometimes you get applause and sometimes you don't. i was on the stage to try to bring some people over to me and i hope that is what i did. but this is the challenge especially when former president trump wasn't at this event and may not be on the debate stage. we are kind of waiting to see them draw the contrast especially when he is the front runner in the national poll in the primary. but it is a difficult needle to thread and we have seen almost all the candidates have challenges with that. >> one last question. the group no labels which is considering supporting a third-party candidate if trump and/or their party nominees, there's an event later today featuring west virginia senator joe manchin who we know is a democrat. can you tell us a little bit about what you know is going to happen today and is it speculation that he might be the snow label candidate in the fall? >> the appearance has demo

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asa hutchison, 1.3%. so we have 5% versus donald trump's 50 plus percent of republicans with a conscience who would like to save their party. on the one hand, ruth's right, most of the party is a cult. is this a way to save it or is it better than the republican party implodes and something else shows up in its place? it's not a good thing to have one political party that functions in this country. >> i don't think the republican base is willing to accept a sane non cold like figure. the party has been radicalized. they've been radicalized to such an extent that these politicians and are running scared. they're afraid of their base. so i personally think it would be great if there would be more people to speak out about donald trump. it's gonna be absolutely necessary to have those people peel off in the general election and vote against him. but the only way this is going to go away is if that party is defeated over and over and over again. no one likes to lose. they have already lost three elections in

except for chris cristi and mesa hutchison. they are doing the exact same strategy that led to donald te trump winning the nomination in this process. i don't understand the logic of it. you are running against donald trump. that means you filed on the ballot because you don't want ot donald trump to be the nominee. why wouldn't you make the argument of why donald trump should it be the nominee? at this point, my feeling is the only way they will be able to break out, is either some external event happens, and we have not seen one diminishing trump's appointment, or their able to break through the debate. we know donald trump has his hand on the controller. he can either go or not go. normally those debates are the l things donald trump excels at. >> there was a lot of news this past week. the story i keep coming back to, because i find it important, is the online harassment campaign from trump's diehard supporters they have launched against federal prosecutors. i'm not going to say that it is surprising, but i think it is impo

hutchison in iowa on tuesday. laura. okay. now, lest you think we're being selective or cruel her e, thishink is the crowd hutchison attracted in greenville, south cr, this week.he >> i know it's like a waiting room for a doctor's office, butr look at me. >> you is shut out's of events. then this poor guy comesi ovekr here. rad at it quickly. i'm like, is this an old episode of the group on the bobe newhart show? maybe an event?s an maybe it's an intervention in i the votersnterve who say, maybee you shouldn't do this. >> oh, god, this is this a looks like a god bless them, an aa meeting or something. it's lik like,e i'm i'm john an' i'm a hutchison supporter. help me! >> finally, laura, i wish companies would stop hiring spokespeople completely unrelated to their audience. maybelline sent this ad out to their 12 million instagram followers this week. >> why not see if maybelline has any deals going and look at that super save vinyl inknyl is 30% off and my favorite colors are in stock and readyol to ship by amazon would arriv

afterwards, cassidy hutchison snaps a photo of literally mark meadows walks giuliani out to make sure he leaves. trump then tweets sometime after that, it's going to be wild. i note that because the two key dates, andrew, had passed. december 8th, which is when they have the formal sort of finalization of the electoral count process then this december 14th date which is when the electors have set it up in all their states. the real electors have done what they're going to do and yet trump comes out of this six-hour meeting saying something's going to happen on january 6th. it seems like that's the key, right? because the question is what did he say is going to happen? what did he conclude from that meeting was going to happen? you've got a lot of january 6th defendants saying trump is who brought me here, made me do this violence. >> absolutely. i would add to that list that they've gone to court and lost everything. so the challenges, a reason those dates are so critical is that they actually had their opportunity to be heard and they lost all of those cases and pat cipollone to the

to asa hutchison, the former arkansas governor, presidential candidate. he hopes to make that debate stage. let's see where things stand. governor, good to have you. >> thanks, neil. great to be with you today. super coverage on this important election year. >> neil: how are things looking for you in making that debate? i know it important to you on a couple of different criteria. getting 1% of the vote. 40,000 distinct donors. where are you? >> first of all, we met the polling criteria in the rasmussen poll that came out i believe today. had us at 4% nationally. so we're going to right direction on the polls. and we've met the criteria for the debate on the poll numbers. now, you also have to have 40,000 unique donors. we're not there yet. we have 30 days. we're doing all the things that need to be done to get there. it's asa2024.com. that's how you can make sure i'm on the debate stage. it is important as your coverage points out because everyone wants to see the contrast between the candidates. they want to learn how the distinctions are and starting t

have a few people in that very large field of people running for president, chris christie, asa hutchison, will her, now a strong this thing, who are prepared to say this is all nonsense. this deep state bs is all nonsense. how about we actually govern and do things that matter to people? your opinion on this? >> look, i think the question here is, when you look at these house republicans, if a large criminal organization was running this instead of the republican party, how would they act any differently? if the mafia wasn't charged instead of the republican party, wouldn't they go after the doj? wouldn't they go after the fbi? what did they do everything they can to protect their boss? and what we're going to have in this primary is you do this in canada's out there, a couple of them, i'm not proud to say, our former clients of mine. -- they are going to present a different view, and we're going to see how the market response to that. we have a very clear idea if republicans want an alternative, because they're going to have an alternative. but i think that trump is what the republican

the same issue was addressed with ambassador hutchison. i want you to react to this. >> i think mike pence is taking the right position. that is we need to help ukraine win this war but not with our troops on the ground. that is the essential difference. i think it is important that we help ukraine and then welcome them in to nato after that is -- war is won and when we have helped them win that war. >> neil: do you know what the former president meant by ending this in a day, what he was offering? >> i have no idea. >> neil: what do you think donald trump meant by ending it in a day? >> i think it's ridiculous. he knows that he can't end it in a day. everybody else knows he can't end the war in a day. he says these crazy things. it's not true. we have a realistic situation on our hands. the way to end the war is to get putin out. the way we end the war is to be strong and work on our alliance. when i worked on dealing with iran at the united nations or focused on dealing with russia with syria, when we had to negotiate with the security c

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thank you so much cameron hutchison at the centre for strategic and international studies. hello.the outlook at wimbledon, of course, which starts on monday. first part of the week, rain at times, not a wash—out by any means, but it's going to feel cool. temperatures below average and a bit breezy at times before things warm up later. and the reason is we've got low pressure centred across scandinavia. we're on the southern edge of it, so winds coming in from the west and north—west, and various banks of rain. and with temperatures dropping compared to what we've seen, probably one of the coolest commutes we've had for a while on monday morning. temperatures for many in single figures. and whilst many start with some sunshine overhead, though, to warm things up, there will be showers getting going across the west and still there in the north of scotland. but it's this batch of showers that work from west to east across england and wales with some sunshine either side, so a few heavy showers lingering through the afternoon, too. but still, that cloud outbreaks of rain continues in

he has been watching the hearings and yesterday, the hearing starred cassidy hutchison, seen here usingce to summon one of those tostadas. hutchinson was assistant to mark meadows. she saw everything that went on in the white house. she told the committee the president knew his crowd was armed before unleashing them on the capital, attacked a member of the security detail and most disturbingly, through his lunch plate in rage. you always hurt the bun you l love. no one thought -- really? applause for that? that is a low bar. thank you. no one thought this testimony went well for the ex-president. one lawyer said the testimony contained credible nuggets of information that would support a seditious conspiracy investigation, which means the former president could be betrayed by his closest confidant, credible nuggets. [laughter] >> stephen: how do those nuggets taste? they taste credible. i believe they are chicken. the testimony was a game changer even fox news did not know how to spin it. >> what is compelling is how it was laid out. the testimony is really pow powerful. sandra? are you

hampshire has been bringing this up repeatedly, basically his sound drabbing for his campaign and hutchison has been campaigning against his legal arguments. he says the former president is not fit to serve again. but the others are much less subtle. mike pence was increasingly campaigning this week in iowa really all week long urging republicans to look for new leadership. but he stops right there. he does not say specifically the legal cases agains him. but the question is as the summer months goes on as the potential for more indictments intensify, the investigations continuing, will these candidates be stepping up their questions about it? because underlying the concern of all of it is elect ability in the vote. talking to voters, they are talking about electibility. they are not saying he isn't, but questioning it again and again. so far in the middle of the summer few candidates are talking directly about these legal cases. donald trump is making his campaign all about it. >> yeah. appreciate it. thank you. >>> next cluster emissions why president biden thinks ukraine needs them now.

we had president trump, governor ron desantis, nikki haley, asa hutchison, vivek ramaswamy, all of them got on stage and talked about the fact that we need to overhaul american education and ensure that parent's voices are being heard. i can assure you if parents had been at that conference for the nea and talking about something, they would have spoken about the fact that our kids are not learning how to read in school but we're going to spend $800 billion this year on public education. no business will be able to function like this. >> president biden, this is a sound -- he just spoke this afternoon. let's listen to what he had to say. >> let's start with teachers and educators. did you think you would be in a situation of banned books? in the united states of america. talking about banning books? the people deciding what books to ban? come on. that's not who we are. >> tiffany, is the goal of your organization to ban books? >> no. looking at the content of a children's school library is not banning books. i'd like to meet with president biden. i'd real some text to him and ask him if

so as much as i want to praise chris christie and will hurd, and lisa hutchison for speaking the truth, you are the three of them together, they come to about four or 5% in the polls in aggregate, and donald trump is in the high 50s. this is not a party that is ready to move on from trump. fraction of it is most certainly, but it's a small fraction, but republican likely primary voters are with this guy to the last dog dies as we sit on self. >> let's not forget, chris christie was a person who served, or at least worked with donald trump for a long time, so he should not be given any free passage because he's found his spine this late in the game. >> i want to ask about these charges. related to the classical five documents, perhaps prosecutors were waiting to find out where that document was in relation to that clip that we were playing that he was showing it to the reporter. what does it say? what do you make of the fact that this document was nowhere to be found? it was basically bouncing around between florida and new jersey before it was ultimately handed over to the national arc

asa hutchison, the former governor, also piling on. >> that's probably the most troubling thing abouthe continued comments of donald trump. that it serves not just simply to protect himself but he makes fun of the system of justice in our country that is the world's greatest. >> if that's not your cup of tea, neil, how about separate yourself from trump? vivek ramaswamy says he's going to go further than trump on the border. he wants to use military to secure the border, not just a border wall. senator tim scott has seen it pay off big time. $40 million will come in ads in the early states and check this out. ron desantis doing a sit-down interview with his wife, casey, as he tries to reset his campaign. >> i would describe him as the love of my life, the father of my six, five and 3-year-old and the fighter that we need to turn this coupry around. >> there you go. will any of these efforts work? we'll have to wait and see. another poll by quinnipiac university showed nearly half the country would consider a third party option. no labels creating a lot of stir amongst democrats that f

. >> we've heard from will hurd and asa hutchison, who also seem to be pushing back on donald trump. but your point is that most of the pack, including the guy running in the third position, a very distant third, but mike pence is sort of third in most of the polling at this point. this is a guy who can help them with somebody who consulted with you, and ended up doing the right thing on january 6th. history will judge that he was on the right side of that issue. and yet, he still seems tentative about pushing back on trump as it relates to these charges and the prosecution of trump for his interference in the 2020 election. does that surprise you? given that he did reach out. >> it -- the vice president, that issue, with respect to the vice president, is not of my concern or my business. he is a former vice president of the united states running for the presidency of the united states today, and he can manage his campaign perfectly well without any comment from me. >> well said, sir. good to see you, judge, as always we appreciate your time. judge jay michael luttig is a former fede

what asa hutchison makes of it and why isn't he intimidated by it or the former president.

as we know from cassidy hutchison's testimony, he was going to go to a meeting on january 5th at the willard hotel. but due to her kind of warning, he did it over the phone. but he knew what was going on. he was killing the messages between all the key players and donald trump. so if i had to pick one person on there that i think is the most important, he is the man. and from what we know, he has already testified in the grand jury. >> uh-huh. >> now, i wouldn't believe that he would be testifying in the grand jury unless he had worked out some kind of a deal and he is basically coming clean on everything that he knows. >> andy, i want to ask you also about this new york times reporting tonight. and that is that tmp former chf of staff, john kelly said in a sworn statement the former president asked about having the irs and otr agencies investigate thostwo fbi officials who were involved in the russia investigation, peter struck and lisa page. in other words, using the i rs to basically punish them. and i was thinking this might ring a bell for you, your reaction? >> it does ring a b

miami mayor francis suarez, and former arkansas governor asa hutchison will take the stage at the turningn conference in west palm beach, florida, to rally supporters and try to boost their single-engine poll numbers, to help their chances of getting on the debate stage next month. but once again, donald trump, the only candidate running while dealing with two criminal indictments, and possibly more in the pipeline, is sucking all the oxygen out of the room. and the former president wasted no time taking a jab at his closest contender, florida governor ron desantis, who trump claims no longer has a path to victory. joining me now, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett haake. garrett, thank you for being here. trump used the occasion to once again say that he has been indicted for them. what death was notable from his headlining appearance last night? >> reporter: jonathan, good morning. the former president gave about an hour and 40 minutes wine last night. this is a group that started to be focused on conservative issues on college campuses. we heard a bit more from the for

he then -- this reminds me of cassidy hutchison. we noted the 16 select committee's process, had counsel played by donald trump's pack, or donald trump's people. then when she finally got her own lawyer, she provided damning, powerful testimony during the course of those hearings. it may not be illegal, but clearly we're seeing some ethical lines, perhaps, being crossed here. how concerned should, i guess, the american public be? that these pack keeps enough fees for lawyers, and they're all represented by trump lawyers. >> katie, i think you drugs actually the right line here. it may not be illegal, for trump's pack to pay for legal representation for not just codefendants but witnesses, it's the kind of behavior that you see an organized crime case. you see it with mules for cartels, or drug organizations. it's the sort of thing that gets the hackles up on the back of a prosecutor's neck. it makes you think about whether or not you need to engage with the court on the process of determining on the record whether or not there is a

asa hutchison calling this behavior dictatorial on the part of trump.mending her saying iowa grows strong women. the other contenders know this is someone you want on your side. and by the way, there's a major event happening in iowa this week. the family leadership summit, which trump is not going to attend. all of the others are going to be there. iowa is so important. it always is, of course. doesn't necessarily mean if you're in iowa you're going to be the nominee, but in this case, what iowa is going to set up, if trump wins, that pretty much all be closed the door on a trump alternative having a shot. but if he doesn't win, if ron desantis wins, scott, hailey, all these others take that primary. >> yeah, you overperform in iowa. that gives you an opening. >> right. >> to punctuate her point, doug, the des moines register had local reaction. a republican political operative in the state who opposed trump's re-election said quote, not how you win friends in iowa and an influential evangelical leader referenced the forest gump line, stupid is as stup

asa hutchison too. they have made a more aggressive approach when it comes to all. a listen. >> he should be charged, if in, fact there's evidence that he's committed a crime. that is prove-able beyond a reasonable doubt in front of a jury and his peers. until then he has a presumption of innocence. he said in the white house for hours while the attack was going on. the capital. he did absolutely nothing. >> what is interesting about this right now is that we learned others were watching things regarding potential possible indictment. chris christie is going to be on the stage for the first debate, that is next month, we saw what chris christie did to marco rubio the last time they did one of these. if donald trump is not on that stage, as -- is rhonda scent is a target? >> perhaps, peter, but perhaps christy will aim his focus at trump and attack trump. even if trump is not on the debate stage, the candidates are presumably still going to talk about him because he remains the front runner, the leading candidate for the nomination. so if nobody on that stage could b

in the evening, asa hutchison has a v.f. fund raiser in demains. neil? >> neil: thanks for that. one of those presidential candidates, crisscrossing not only iowa but everywhere. will hurd, the latest entrant. he joins us right now, the former texas congressman. very good to have you, sir. >> hi, neil. always a pleasure to be on with you. >> neil: let me get to what governor reynolds wants to do, ready to sign, some legislation that really limits the ability to have an abortion beyond six weeks. some say that is sticking very close to the right to life intentions that are near and dear to your fellow republicans. but goes a long way toward alienating some of those same voters that look at that as too restricted. what do you think? >> well,'s said that if congress put a 15-week ban on my desk, i would sign that. i also think that the dobbs decision was the right decision and states should be making their own decisions. i also think that the gop should be talking about maternal health, neonatal health to make sure that women that are having these kids have the support and the help

francis suarez, will hurd and asa hutchison they have not met that threshold for the fundraising yetink he will end up being able to qualify. they have to get that first breakout moment and then do they have the funds after that some of them like tim scott have a pretty high burn rate as well as ron desantis. nikki haley's campaign telling me part of the reason they're saving up their money right nau is so that afterwards, if she does have that kind of a moment they can put money into it and capitalize on it. >> bret: here is former new jersey governor chris christie on the debates and the former president. >> he said he was going to repeal and replace obamacare and couldn't get it done when he had a republican congress. he said he was going to balance the budget. he added $6 trillion to the national debt in four years. so to be on this stage for all of the debates and i will hold donald trump personally responsible for failing us as he promised us when i was on that stage with him in 2016. >> so obviously they are trying to get him on the stage. >> we would love to have him on the s

desantis, hutchison, ramaswamy, folks who just have no regard for what it is to be progressive.s been given legs, and allow for these false equivalency, zen these distorted narratives that lack context, to grow tentacles throughout society. i'm not necessarily convinced that we can safely say that this is a lost cause until after 2024. knowing that it does not. win >> as you just pointed out, the vision here is for dictatorship. the vision here is to legislate, and turn the government into, if we're going to talk about weaponization of the government, this is actually at, right? this is the vision for millions of americans who donald trump and others have given a voice to. you are, right we won't know if it's a lost cause or not until after this next election. there is going to be so many dodged bullets. will we dodge it again, we don't know. >> part of this lost cause, i'm surprised you didn't mention this, also, teaching standards. florida's debate again -- i mean, it's just, it's insanity to me. we have actually having a conversation about the benefits of slavery, that the vi

i am nowjoined by former us ambassador to nato under the trump administration, kay bailey hutchison, of the bloc?- membership of the bloc? i think it is very important _ membership of the bloc? i think it is very important that _ membership of the bloc? i think it is very important that we - membership of the bloc? i think it is very important that we give i membership of the bloc? i think it is very important that we give all. is very important that we give all of the assurances to ukraine that they deserve, and i think nato has done that, certainly the united states and the uk has, as well. but to talk about membership right now is premature. of course we would not want to be putting our own troops' lives on the line in this conflict that has been ongoing now for over a year. i think we will have ukraine at some point in nato and it will be the most rapid accession that we can make it. , ., , , make it. sorry to interrupt, but presumably _ make it. sorry to interrupt, but presumably that _ make it. sorry to interrupt, but presumably that means - make it. sorry to interrupt, but pre

so maybe like cassidy hutchison, which is they were brought up well, which is they believe in the mirror test, which is going home and being able to look at themselves in the mirror. there are other people, and there appears to be a case with mr. nauta and mr. de oliveira, who are concerned more about loyalty to their boss, about money, about their future, and they are thinking you know what, i might be able to escape because i might get a pardon or some other belief down the road. so there is a whole variety of people, a whole variety of motives. when your prosecutor, it's figuring it out. >> it's figuring out the humanity than undergirds even their positions. i have to ask you, because i think this is relevant to your experience, the new york times is up with a new piece, a long piece, comparing what we are learning in terms of obstruction in the mar-a-lago case with the obstruction that was detailed in the mueller report. all reduce hogue excerpts ru it john bolton in the piece trump's approach obstruction as a way of life. in the lead investigator and the mueller investigation, andre

>> cassidy hutchison told us that he said, can you believe a lost to this guy? so when he was behind the scenes, it was perfectly clear. there also is a series of administrative steps that he took for the government, indicating that he knew there was going to be a, succession of power. and he knew it was really over while he was saying, on the other side, to the mob, you know, we are gonna stop this. and, you know, we are gonna claim it, and so on. >> what unanswered questions do you have from the investigation? given how deeply you are embedded in this for special counsel jack smith, that you hope people answer? >> there are a number of formal parts of the investigation that i wish we had had more time and more resources to go after. for example we knew that the proud boys and oath keepers were acting as the front find shock troops to attack the officers, and to try to unleash the wrath of the mob against anybody who was protecting us, and to storm the capitol. we know that they were acting in very organized fashion. but we didn't have all of the specific conve

chris christie and h asa hutchison, our polling at one and 3%. this is not going to be a primary about policy. ron desantis is out here trying to run to the right of donald trump, and going after disney, trying to defund disney's police in florida. we saw what he's going after, the culture wars in florida. people are not comfortable with this. they already have their many fascist in trump. it's great that chris christie is out there making those comments, but people remember that he didn't do this in 2016. if he had done this in 2016, perhaps he wouldn't have had it on trump. there's no one out there that has the courage to really consolidate and go after donald trump. they're all a bunch of cowards. any of them, that's why they're all in single digits. people don't want that. >> governor desantis spoke to nbc news earlier tonight about the controversial florida curriculum teaching, the benefits of slavery, to say it's controversial is under -- a win here both of you from other in. >> do you really want to pick a fight with several black republic

necessarily know during the course of the trial, just some of the disclosures, for example, miss cassidy hutchison who testified in friends look committee, powerful and compelling testimony, learning some of the fact that she was able to share with the american public. it was jarring for many of us, not just impeachment managers but many members of congress, by the way, who all experienced sherrie sixth. i was on the house floor of that fateful day. i couldn't be more proud of the work p.j. re-six select committee did in terms of trying to get a better grasp of the fact stop until that point had not necessarily been divulged, not even publicly, two members of congressman. >> congressman, good to see you. thank you for being here. congressman joe neguse, impeachment manager and congressman in colorado. coming, up a look at how constituency is become a model for backslide no percy in america, but also mafia style charge of the georgia pro prosecutors could be considering against trump. going after the trump gang, next. gang next rst date? whoa. alright, c'mon. earn big with chase freedom unlimited w

eastern fellow candidates, asa hutchison, and francis or a's also scheduled to speak to the conference trump's legal woes continue to intensify this week. joining me now to talk more about, this nbc news, garrett, take who covers the trump campaign. , garrett as always, my friend, great to talk to you. what are the expectations ahead of the former presidents speech this evening? >> husband, make no mistake about, it despite the presence of these other candidates at the event, this is very much a home crowd for donald trump. we are just across the waterway from mar-a-lago. this is very much his audience. this is the youth movement in the conservative party in the united states. the folks who really support. him including the founder of this organization, who, as himself, independently endorsed donald trump. as for how the indictments and legal challenges will play into this, i expect the former president to lean into the speech. he has made the indictments against, him hit the investigations, a small but consistent part of his remarks, every time he goes on, he uses it to paid himself a

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>> certainly we've been seeing cassidy hutchison is a perfect example of that.ilar, if you leave aside that the crimes are extremely difficult, you can't compare someone murdering 19 people with what's going on here. they're very different. the issue of how do you get somebody to cooperate is something that is kind of similar in the organized crime cases. there are ways that organized crime has to make sure that, in terms of murder, there was an oath of -- in this case, in a public corruption case, there are also significant challenges. there is the issue of -- where people think about, i don't really need to flip because i'm mike apart and down the road. the former president is also really good at threatening people with directly and indirectly, publicizing what they're doing or not doing. this, that is one area where i think if you had experience and organized crime cases, and in public cases, it can be very useful. >> makes me wonder, if you are one of these people, one of these lower level people, you have information, and they suspect you have information b

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against him, where they just can't find one iota, except for chris christie and some degree asa hutchison a vein that will pump out the energy they need to rebuke trump and take him on? >> you know, michael, this is not the party that you and i grew up with. this is not the party of ronald reagan and george h. w. bush, and eisenhower. this is a radically transformed party, it is driven by a cult of personality, i'm not trying to make too fine a point of that. it is a cult of personality. they're obsessed with trump, and so i want to salute asa and will and chris christie for showing any sort of daylight, for but it's hard to imagine those guys getting more than a dozen votes from immediate family members when it comes to a republican primary. they're going to get destroyed. ron desantis is collapsing. nikki haley and tim scott, they will collapse. lynn youngkin's, the hamlet of the establishment money collapse right now, and he is looking at this and saying i don't have an audience. the audience is committed by trump, he's now at over 50% in iowa, he's now very much over 50% in about ten

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they need to make the case and they're not doing that other than a few maybe chris christie and tim hutchisontill donald trump keeps fund-raising off this potential third title, the indictment that hasn't come at this point. he's sending out multiple emails. just yesterday, in fact, to his supporters essentially saying he expects the doj to indict him even though he's innocent saying it's to distract from what he calls the biden crime family and keep him from beating biden. matt, your response? >> yeah, i mean, we have long ago lost our capacity to be shocked by donald trump, but i think it's important to step back and take stock of what he is doing here. he's already of course kind of taken an axe to one of the key components of our democracy, which is the electoral system. now he's trying to do the same thing to our justice system. by undermining faith in the justice system among his followers, he is doing real damage to american democracy. this isn't just -- this can't be written off simply as a political ploy or campaign tactic. it is that, but it is something much more insidious as well.

hutchison. >> brian: they were in early has a lot to do with it.how they are doing. are they resonating with the american public. >> ainsley: donald trump is the yellow line this is january. started at 47%. look at him now, 53.1%. this is real clear politics this is a average of all the 308s. >> brian: special thanks to the indictments, too, is he doneating the news cycle. >> ainsley: this is actually hang of helping him. desantis what do you say about this. >> he waited a while to get in. $20 million in attack ads super pacs. he was trying to be governor. see if he can bounce back and start resonating. ainsley your proof is he doing much now with media. >> ainsley: going to be talking about national media focusing more on this than some of these visits he says he is going to all 99 counties in iowa. he has dropped a little bit. then he introduced us to his wife the other day. we had great interview with her on wednesday. aired it yesterday. and i have heard nothing but positives about it. how much they like her. ains. >> brian: and they are talkin

he's speaking to a group of conservative activists who are currently doing asa hutchison pretty gustyind me. it is not just -- on the stage it is a pretty pro trump bias. obviously anti trump, very critical of trump candidates. but donald trump is clearly directed the detected there is weakness in the desantis campaign and his poll numbers are going the wrong direction and he's putting gasoline on that fire. here's some of what he had to say about his chief rival onstage last night. >> we are totally dominating the sank disarray here in the state of florida. so we want him to get home and take care of his insurance because you are the highest insurance in the nation. of all the people there supporting, him saying wait a minute you're down by 50 points. the sanctimonious are spending so much time in many dividing the party and he's wrapping so quickly so it's probably not going to be second place much longer. i wonder who is going to be? maybe it is the back. >> and, alex and is the crowd behind me chance donald trump's name it just gives you an idea of what a home game this was for th

these new numbers reveal former vice president mike pence and former arkansas governor hutchison aregling to make that threshold. as for the desantis campaign, more changes are expected soon and the florida governor will be resetting his media strategy. robin? >> appreciate your reporting there. thank you, rachel. now to that stunning win at wimbeldon. 20-year-old carlos alcaraz is the new winner beating novak djokovic. did we all watch that match? >> yes. >> it was incredible. for the past two decades unless your name was murray, nadal or djokovic, you really didn't stand a chance to hold the wimbeldon trophy. but this morning we can add a new name to that list. [ cheers ] overnight a stunning five setter at the wimbeldon men's final. >> alcaraz is the special one to dethrone djokovic at wimbeldon. >> reporter: 20-year-old carlos alcaraz defeating the seemingly unbeatable novak djokovic in front of a star studded crowd including brad pitt and daniel craig. prince william and the kids were in the royal box with princess kate who handed out the trophy. at the start of the match though