this matter will be reassigned to commissioner hwang. to clarify again, this is patrol special alan byard. not an officer, but a patrol special. >> please call next line item. >> item 5, public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on the agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or occ personnel. under police commission rules of order, during public comment, needed police or occ personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. individual commissioners and police and o cc personnel should refrain, however, from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during public comment. public speaker: good evening. thank you very much. i'm here once again concerning my son aubrey abrakasa concerning the august 14, 2006. next month already 10 years. i always say

>> yes commissioner hwang? commissioner hwang votes yes. commissioner melara votes yes. the motion passes 6-1. >> call item 5. >> public comment. >> if a poli [reading]. >> he wants to stay alive steer the situation most important he needed to coordinate the situation with a valuable piece of equipment he has called a radio mike. i think 40% of the business is mental illness. this will help. we also need to have a new team the crisis intervention team. equal to the police and in numbers. this is the next step then we need to find the place to put these people again safe homes the hospital safe rooms we need to coordinate them off the streets. picking police. i believe that 10 year veterans that have not fired a gun should be involved with picking the people that want to recruit. they should have a lunch

commissioner hwang? >> i have a question regarding the july 6th incident. i think the media referred to comments that there was a tank deployed. can you talk about what that might be? some kind of armored vehicle. was there armored vehicle on july 6th? >> i believe they call it bear cat. it's just a vehicle i don't know much about it, but i believe it was at the scene. >> is it a machine or just a shielded car? >> it is, and it's there because if a person has a weapon and you need to get in a position where you have to cross the line of fire, our patrol cars may not repel certain firearms, so you can use that weapon if you are in the line of fire. >> does it have shooting capability or just a vehicle? >> no. definitely not a tank, just a vehicle. >> thank you. >> other questions for the chief? chief, i want to say obviously that incident, it seems there was time that was created and certainly the whole theory upon which a number of the reforms we have been working on this idea of time. that's why we aske

commissioner hwang. speaker: two quick questions. one is a followup. in this type of instance with the dd case, other than the discipline of the officer, does the department take a new report from the victim in the case? it's not too late to followup on the case. >> definitely not. in one of the cases that was spoke out earlier, a case was done months earlier. it's never too late to document an independence dainty. -- incident. >> do we followup and see if the victim wants to followup with the prosecution in that case. >> that's generally what happens. i cannot speak to the specific case, but once the case is identified, generally someone other than the person that did the violation is sent back out to take the report and do the followup. >> thank you. we had two language complaints which is unusual from those two communities which don't generally generate a lot of instances. is it a pattern? is there a recommendation in terms of -- it's something we have worked on for a long time. speaker: right. >> is there a reason why we all of a sudden saw these t

commissioner hwang? >> i have a question regarding the july 6th incident. i think the media referred to comments that there was a tank deployed. can you talk about what that might be? some kind of armored vehicle. was there armored vehicle on july 6th? >> i believe they call it bear cat. it's just a vehicle i don't know much about it, but i believe it was at the scene. >> is it a machine or just a shielded car? >> it is, and it's there because if a person has a weapon and you need to get in a position where you have to cross the line of fire, our patrol cars may not repel certain firearms, so you can use that weapon if you are in the line of fire. >> does it have shooting capability or just a vehicle? >> no. definitely not a tank, just a vehicle. >> thank you. >> other questions for the chief? chief, i want to say obviously that incident, it seems there was time that was created and certainly the whole theory upon which a number of the reforms we have been working on this idea of time. that's why we aske

speaker: commissioner hwang is in route. speaker: commissioner melara >> present. >> commissioner loftus, you have a quorum with us tonight. deputy chief hector sinus for acting chief tony chaplin and the director of the occ joyce hicks. >> thank you, good evening, everyone. welcome to the july 6th police commission meeting. thank you for being here. we've got a full house, and a long agenda with a lot of important items. we're going to go ahead and -- i've had a request from supervisor avalos who has to take a plane tonight to move our agenda around, so colleagues, i'll note we're going to move item number 2 first. and take that before item number 1 to accommodate the supervisor's schedule. before we do that, just i'm going to ask the sergeant to remind us all of the rules of order of the police commission. we want to hear from everyone and there are some specific rules that governor how we do public comment and all that. so sergeant please read those. speaker: thank you, everyone. speaker: rules of order, members fts publi

speaker: commissioner hwang is in route. speaker: commissioner melara >> present. >> commissioner loftus, you have a quorum with us tonight. deputy chief hector sinus for acting chief tony chaplin and the director of the occ joyce hicks. >> thank you, good evening, everyone. welcome to the july 6th police commission meeting. thank you for being here. we've got a full house, and a long agenda with a lot of important items. we're going to go ahead and -- i've had a request from supervisor avalos who has to take a plane tonight to move our agenda around, so colleagues, i'll note we're going to move item number 2 first. and take that before item number 1 to accommodate the supervisor's schedule. before we do that, just i'm going to ask the sergeant to remind us all of the rules of order of the police commission. we want to hear from everyone and there are some specific rules that governor how we do public comment and all that. so sergeant please read those. speaker: thank you, everyone. speaker: rules of order, members fts publi

the victor commissioner hwang's point, the issue involving domestic violence and one-day suspension, it would be great if we can get an update to make sure that particular victim was followed up with and a report can be issued there. that is apart of a pattern that abusers will use is they have a better relationship with law enforcement if there's no followup. given there was failure here, it would be great to hear that there was followup and a police report. so that would be great. and the other question that i have is with regard to the unlawful arrests. number two of the april statistical report. the person was unlawfully detained and arrested. if the officer followed procedure, the unlawful arrest wouldn't have occurred. that can do the moefts damage -- the most damage we were talking about. i don't know if there's written -- if this level of discipline was requested by the occ. it seems based on the small amounts of fact we have to be a very light, even though it's a written reprimand, it seems as though it's an unlawful arrest to merit greater discipline. >> this is a case from

speaker: commissioner hwang is in route. speaker: commissioner melara >> present. >> commissioner loftus, you have a quorum with us on