i'm saying that we need to pay attention to why it's there, hyacinth. and quit trying to pretend that we live somewhere else. >> elizabeth, are you saying that this is intentional marginalization, as if it's intentional segregation? >> if i could say something, yes, it is intentional segregation. for example, through most of the 20th century, the federal housing administration funded suburban development with the explicit condition that no homes be sold to african-americans. >> bingo. >> public housing authorities in the federal and the state governments, purposely placed hawsing for low-income people to be concentrated in one place. this was it certainly purposeful. the whole history of how the federal and the state governments created racial segregation on purpose has largely been frontal boundary. it was once well-known, but we need to be reminded of it to understand how this came about. >> so not only how it came about, richard, but i can glean that this is not an exclusive issue to you connecticut. >> no, this is true throughout the country. all of